Michael Moore was on Jay Leno's new show tonight plugging his new film...
So anyway-
Jay does this bit where he makes his guests earn the right to play clips of their work by doing silly things. Michael Moore seized this opportunity to make a political statement by singing a few lines from Bob Dillon's "Times They are a Changin'".
I was blown away at how relevant and timely the lyrics are. Just felt the need to share-
Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.
Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.
Check it out-
http://www.thejaylenoshow.com/video/clips/michael-moore-part-2/1157706/http://widgets.nbc.com/o/4727a250e6...41e3c5156499a7/c97b055/-cpid/436023ae18dc61f5
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Beach Fanatic
I refuse to watch NBC!!!!!!!
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I refuse to watch NBC!!!!!!!
Oh. Ok. Thanks.
Beach Fanatic
Michael Moore......
Any wonder why Jay's audience went from 18 million to almost half that in one night?
Any wonder why Jay's audience went from 18 million to almost half that in one night?
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I believe you are confusing a correlational relationship with one of causation...
While I trust your numbers that the audience went from 18 million Monday to half that Tuesday, I highly doubt this was because the guest was Michael Moore.
More than likely, the 18 million viewership Monday was due to the fact that it was the first night of a highly publicized/advertised show (Time magazine had a cover with Jay on it that said he would save TV). Folks tuned in to see what the hype was about. Another factor could be that Kanye West was on. His name topped maintream media headlines in the 48 hours before Monday's Leno show.
It is actually possible that Michael Moore caused more people to tune in Tuesday than normally would have.
While I trust your numbers that the audience went from 18 million Monday to half that Tuesday, I highly doubt this was because the guest was Michael Moore.
More than likely, the 18 million viewership Monday was due to the fact that it was the first night of a highly publicized/advertised show (Time magazine had a cover with Jay on it that said he would save TV). Folks tuned in to see what the hype was about. Another factor could be that Kanye West was on. His name topped maintream media headlines in the 48 hours before Monday's Leno show.
It is actually possible that Michael Moore caused more people to tune in Tuesday than normally would have.
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Beach Fanatic
I believe you are confusing a correlational relationship with one of causation...
While I trust your numbers that the audience went from 18 million Monday to half that Tuesday, I highly doubt this was because the guest was Michael Moore.
More than likely, the 18 million viewership Monday was due to the fact that it was the first night of a highly publicized/advertised show (Time magazine had a cover with Jay on it that said he would save TV). Folks tuned in to see what the hype was about. Another factor could be that Kanye West was on. His name topped maintream media headlines in the 48 hours before Monday's Leno show.
It is actually possible that Michael Moore caused more people to tune in Tuesday than normally would have.
Very doubtful but who really knows.....
The ONLY reason I didnt watch Monday was because that DB Kanye was on....After that, I personally don't think Jay is very funny except for his "Man on the Street interviews"
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Very doubtful but who really knows.....
The ONLY reason I didnt watch Monday was because that DB Kanye was on....After that, I personally don't think Jay is very funny except for his "Man on the Street interviews"
Very doubtful, why? Because you don't personally like him or his politics?
Sure, you tuned out because of Kanye. But this in no way shape or form means this is the national trend.
I don't like to talk of "sides" but for the sake of conversation-
Michael Moore is on the side that currently rules as a result of the majority vote in the last election. As such, it is COMPLETELY plausible that more folks tuned in to see him than tuned out as a result of his presence on the show. And I only point this out because you seemed to imply that Michael Moore caused the decline in viewership numbers on Tuesday. Coorelation- yes. Causation- (to use your words) very doubtful.
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Beach Fanatic
Very doubtful, why? Because you don't personally like him or his politics?
Sure, you tuned out because of Kanye. But this in no way shape or form means this is the national trend.
I don't like to talk of "sides" but for the sake of conversation-
Michael Moore is on the side that currently rules as a result of the majority vote in the last election. As such, it is COMPLETELY plausible that more folks tuned in to see him than tuned out as a result of his presence on the show. And I only point this out because you seemed to imply that Michael Moore caused the decline in viewership numbers on Tuesday. Coorelation- yes. Causation- (to use your words) very doubtful.
Youre right Geo...You always are....What was I thinking
It is NBC afterall
Beach FanaticAuthor
Youre right Geo...You always are....What was I thinking
It is NBC afterall
I'm definitely not always right and am happy to admit when I'm wrong. Just calling BS on you skewing data- that's all...
Beach Fanatic
Geo, are you a fan of Michael Moore?
Beach Fanatic
Geo, are you a fan of Michael Moore?
:funn:
Beach FanaticAuthor
Geo, are you a fan of Michael Moore?
I am.
I don't agree with everything he says or does. But I see his work as entertaining and provocative.
Beach Fanatic
Do people really watch late night talk shows? Yawn
Beach Fanatic
I'm definitely not always right and am happy to admit when I'm wrong. Just calling BS on you skewing data- that's all...Can I say I just really dislike Michael Moore, his work and what he stands for and let it go at that?
Beach Fanatic
I am.
I don't agree with everything he says or does. But I see his work as entertaining and provocative.
I have never actually spoken to someone that admitted they were a fan of that man. I feel like my horizon was just widened. Thank you.
Beach FanaticAuthor
I have never actually spoken to someone that admitted they were a fan of that man. I feel like my horizon was just widened. Thank you.
For Just Curious and Andy A.,
Which Michael Moore films have you seen?
Thx, G
Beach Fanatic
Michael Moore seized this opportunity to make a political statement by singing a few lines from Bob Dillon's "Times They are a Changin'".
Michael has realy hit the skids to be quoting from this "Dillon" fella.
Robert Dillon, Fingerstyle Guitarist, Eugene, Oregon
SoWal Insider
For Just Curious and Andy A.,
Which Michael Moore films have you seen?
Thx, G
I own bowling for columbine. That gave me a taste of his brand of "docu-propaganda" and I really wasn't impressed. Being someone who likes to look at the straight facts in making good decisions, I don't feel Moore's films are to be trusted. But if you subscribe to his political views, I'm sure you would get a kick out of his humor, which I think is the main point. I myself don't, so I see no need to see any more of his films.
Beach Fanatic
For Just Curious and Andy A.,
Which Michael Moore films have you seen?
Thx, G
Ok, you caught me. I knew that question was coming. Which movie would you recommend?
Beach Fanatic
It's DYLAN
Beach FanaticAuthor
Ok, you caught me. I knew that question was coming. Which movie would you recommend?
Thx for your honesty. You saw it coming that I was going to give you some grief for judging the guy's work when you haven't seen it.
I would suggest you watch "Roger and Me" which is about how hard Flint, Michigan was hit in the eighties as a result of GM layoffs
OR
or his new one about capitalism which I am told is the least left leaning of his films and comes down hard on dems and repubs for the bailouts of the financial firms. He goes after AIG and the others and exposes gov't corruption on both sides of the aisle.
Beach Fanatic
Thx for your honesty. You saw it coming that I was going to give you some grief for judging the guy's work when you haven't seen it.
I would suggest you watch "Roger and Me" which is about how hard Flint, Michigan was hit in the eighties as a result of GM layoffs
OR
or his new one about capitalism which I am told is the least left leaning of his films and comes down hard on dems and repubs for the bailouts of the financial firms. He goes after AIG and the others and exposes gov't corruption on both sides of the aisle.
Thanks, so when are we going to do this movie night?
Beach FanaticAuthor
Thanks, so when are we going to do this movie night?
I suspect that our local theaters won't carry a Michael Moore film (irrespective of its profitability potential). But I hope I am wrong and they do show the new film.
SO... you have inspired me-
If a local venue carries the new Michael Moore film I am going to organize a SoWal field trip.
Stay tuned.
Beach Fanatic
Thx for your honesty. You saw it coming that I was going to give you some grief for judging the guy's work when you haven't seen it.
I would suggest you watch "Roger and Me" which is about how hard Flint, Michigan was hit in the eighties as a result of GM layoffs
OR
or his new one about capitalism which I am told is the least left leaning of his films and comes down hard on dems and repubs for the bailouts of the financial firms. He goes after AIG and the others and exposes gov't corruption on both sides of the aisle.
Excellent choice - perfectly characteristic Moore. Full of distortion, whining, and rudeness.
Just my opinion.
Beach FanaticAuthor
Excellent choice - perfectly characteristic Moore. Full of distortion, whining, and rudeness.
Just my opinion.
Perfectly characteristic of Moore- agree.
Some whining and rudeness- agree.
What do you feel he distorted in Roger and Me? I own it but it has been a while since I've watched it...
Beach Fanatic
Personally, I don't see much difference in Michael Moore and Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh or Dr. Phil. They all twist facts and truths until they are unFacts or unTruths solely in pursuit of fame and $. The concepts of cause and effect, personal responsibility and ethical behavior are totally unknown to them.
I've got no use for any of them.
I've got no use for any of them.
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