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But the US is by far the largest wheat exporter. We continue to feed the world. China is a large importer of wheat. Lots of hungry mouthes to feed.

So our last bargaining chip is a grain? :roll:

Tropical cyclone (TC) activity worldwide has completely and utterly collapsed during the past 2 to 3 years with TC energy levels sinking to levels not seen since the late 1970s.
coaps.fsu.edu | Ryan Maue's Seasonal Tropical Cyclone Activity Update

Tropical cyclone (TC) activity worldwide has completely and utterly collapsed during the past 2 to 3 years with TC energy levels sinking to levels not seen since the late 1970s.
coaps.fsu.edu | Ryan Maue's Seasonal Tropical Cyclone Activity Update

Remember...It's not Global Warming, anymore. It's Climate Change. You have to be able to have your cake and eat it, too...

Tropical cyclone (TC) activity worldwide has completely and utterly collapsed during the past 2 to 3 years with TC energy levels sinking to levels not seen since the late 1970s.
coaps.fsu.edu | Ryan Maue's Seasonal Tropical Cyclone Activity Update

Remember...It's not Global Warming, anymore. It's Climate Change. You have to be able to have your cake and eat it, too...

I'll leave you two and your "climate boners". :leaving:

I'll leave you two and your "climate boners". :leaving:

Someone has to step up since the prophets of meteorological doom increasingly appear to have egg on their faces.

Someone has to step up since the prophets of meteorological doom increasingly appear to have egg on their faces.

Just saw Al rowing down the street with two donkeys behind him!

So our last bargaining chip is a grain? :roll:

Or bonds.

Someone has to step up since the prophets of meteorological doom increasingly appear to have egg on their faces.

Look out below: global cooling on the way.

RIA Novosti - Opinion & analysis - A cold spell soon to replace global warming

Stock up on fur coats and felt boots! This is my paradoxical advice to the warm world.

Earth is now at the peak of one of its passing warm spells. It started in the 17th century when there was no industrial influence on the climate to speak of and no such thing as the hothouse effect. The current warming is evidently a natural process and utterly independent of hothouse gases.

The real reasons for climate changes are uneven solar radiation, terrestrial precession (that is, axis gyration), instability of oceanic currents, regular salinity fluctuations of the Arctic Ocean surface waters, etc. There is another, principal reason?solar activity and luminosity. The greater they are the warmer is our climate.

Astrophysics knows two solar activity cycles, of 11 and 200 years. Both are caused by changes in the radius and area of the irradiating solar surface. The latest data, obtained by Habibullah Abdusamatov, head of the Pulkovo Observatory space research laboratory, say that Earth has passed the peak of its warmer period, and a fairly cold spell will set in quite soon, by 2012. Real cold will come when solar activity reaches its minimum, by 2041, and will last for 50-60 years or even longer.

Just saw Al rowing down the street with two donkeys behind him!

Ahh yes, global warming, I mean global climate change champions, throw another log on the fire and read this piece. I hope your Prius has a good heater

Their predictions ? based on an analysis of natural cycles in water temperatures in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans ? challenge some of the global warming orthodoxy?s most deeply cherished beliefs, such as the claim that the North Pole will be free of ice in
summer by 2013.


DAVID ROSE: The mini ice age starts here | Mail Online

So then beach re nourishment doesn't need to happen as all those glaciers and ice caps will reform. This will pull water from the worlds oceans and lower the level. Voila! Instantly more beach. Of course the question remains who then owns this new beach? Can we do a land grab like the early settlers?

YouTube- land run - oklahoma - tom

My next car will be electric. Used to have a Prius as a company car at our request. I see conservation as a win win situation. There are many ways that we can help make this a cleaner and better world and find ways to conserve for the future generations. If that's on the agenda for "climate change" then count me in.

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My next car will be electric. Used to have a Prius as a company car at our request. I see conservation as a win win situation. There are many ways that we can help make this a cleaner and better world and find ways to conserve for the future generations. If that's on the agenda for "climate change" then count me in.

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It all ends in 2012.

My next car will be electric. Used to have a Prius as a company car at our request. I see conservation as a win win situation. There are many ways that we can help make this a cleaner and better world and find ways to conserve for the future generations. If that's on the agenda for "climate change" then count me in.

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I agree, but I don't think saddling ourselves or our future citizenry with (yet more) debt in an effort to combat a boogeyman that increasingly appears to be fanciful is 'conservation'.

It is impossible for humans with their innate wisdom and infinite knowledge to have any negative effect on the environment.:roll:

It is impossible for humans with their innate wisdom and infinite knowledge to have any negative effect on the environment.:roll:

Humans excel at altering the environment. Altering the global climate, now that is a whole other story and the point of this whole brew-ha-ha.

Humans excel at altering the environment. Altering the global climate, now that is a whole other story and the point of this whole brew-ha-ha.

The environment is the totality of our surroundings, a negative effect on any part would affect the entire system.

I'm somewhat in the middle on this whole argument. I hope those who claim our actions have zero effect on global weather are correct and we can go on with our selfish ways and those who disagree are wrong. The biggest problem with this is most in the climate sciences community believe that more than 200 years of fossil fuel burning, clear cutting/burning forests, dumping manufacturing waste into our waterways, poor farming practices, and other human activities have taken a toll on our planet and its weather patterns. Since this is their field of expertise I will respect their opinion but hope they are wrong.

Another way to go would be to have so much hatred for one man I would claim it is all one big leftwing conspiracy and discount anything that contradicts what I want to believe. I would also take the word of an Oklahoma Senator with a degree in economics over those with careers in climate science.

I think I'll just keep an open mind and realize I don't have the answer and hope those studying and working on the matter will discover the truth and then we will all know the answer.

A couple of nice articles on the current climate Asia

Siberian winds usher in record lows in Beijing

Seoul buried in heaviest snowfall in 70 years

It is impossible for humans with their innate wisdom and infinite knowledge to have any negative effect on the environment.:roll:

Are you being facetious? Just asking, but I agree with the direction of your reasoning. I think the earth is capable of taking care of herself and she goes through cycles, some longer than others, but never a constant.

I do not think humans are a cause of any global warming. I find things like the hole in the ozone always over or near the S. Pole interesting. At one point it had split into two smaller holes. I think it's quite plausible this hole is there so we and the earth do not die from gases produced from cows and others.

For every argument, there is an equal and opposite argument, however......makes life interesting, I suspect.

Global colding is the weather du jour.......

Are you being facetious? Just asking, but I agree with the direction of your reasoning. I think the earth is capable of taking care of herself and she goes through cycles, some longer than others, but never a constant.

I do not think humans are a cause of any global warming. I find things like the hole in the ozone always over or near the S. Pole interesting. At one point it had split into two smaller holes. I think it's quite plausible this hole is there so we and the earth do not die from gases produced from cows and others.

For every argument, there is an equal and opposite argument, however......makes life interesting, I suspect.

I'm being facetious.

How is it we can be the only "chosen" being on Earth destined for an eternal afterlife, but we can't possibly have an impact on the Earth no matter how much we pollute?

While the Earth can probably take care of itself, it will probably do that by simply eradicating the problem, us.

How is it we can be the only "chosen" being on Earth destined for an eternal afterlife, but we can't possibly have an impact on the Earth no matter how much we pollute?

While the Earth can probably take care of itself, it will probably do that by simply eradicating the problem, us.

I just believe the Earth is more powerful and has survived many harsh cycles already. Maybe Mother Earth will eradicate us, but I doubt it. I think man will eradicate man. In any event, I find this topic fascinating to research.

The environment is the totality of our surroundings, a negative effect on any part would affect the entire system.

I'm somewhat in the middle on this whole argument. I hope those who claim our actions have zero effect on global weather are correct and we can go on with our selfish ways and those who disagree are wrong. The biggest problem with this is most in the climate sciences community believe that more than 200 years of fossil fuel burning, clear cutting/burning forests, dumping manufacturing waste into our waterways, poor farming practices, and other human activities have taken a toll on our planet and its weather patterns. Since this is their field of expertise I will respect their opinion but hope they are wrong.

Another way to go would be to have so much hatred for one man I would claim it is all one big leftwing conspiracy and discount anything that contradicts what I want to believe. I would also take the word of an Oklahoma Senator with a degree in economics over those with careers in climate science.

I think I'll just keep an open mind and realize I don't have the answer and hope those studying and working on the matter will discover the truth and then we will all know the answer.

So if I understand your argument correctly, the camp that has not gobbled up the anthropogenic climate change theory is occupied exclusively by know nothings and hacks? If that is your understanding of the issue, what can I say? Will it make you feel any better that the three credit hour meteorology course I took in college constitutes more formal climatology training than that undertaken by 'the hated man'?

The environment is the totality of our surroundings, a negative effect on any part would affect the entire system.

I'm somewhat in the middle on this whole argument. I hope those who claim our actions have zero effect on global weather are correct and we can go on with our selfish ways and those who disagree are wrong. The biggest problem with this is most in the climate sciences community believe that more than 200 years of fossil fuel burning, clear cutting/burning forests, dumping manufacturing waste into our waterways, poor farming practices, and other human activities have taken a toll on our planet and its weather patterns. Since this is their field of expertise I will respect their opinion but hope they are wrong.

Another way to go would be to have so much hatred for one man I would claim it is all one big leftwing conspiracy and discount anything that contradicts what I want to believe. I would also take the word of an Oklahoma Senator with a degree in economics over those with careers in climate science.

I think I'll just keep an open mind and realize I don't have the answer and hope those studying and working on the matter will discover the truth and then we will all know the answer.

By the way, and sorry to double post, I would like to know your source for the highlighted text above.