no cuts for Nascar? but okay for education and children..

Something GOP doesn't want to cut: Funding for NASCAR | McClatchy

This is payment for advertising to promote recruitment for the military. I think we can cut all the advertising by the Defense dept. easily though- reinstate the draft. Then we will not need to advertise.

This is payment for advertising to promote recruitment for the military. I think we can cut all the advertising by the Defense dept. easily though- reinstate the draft. Then we will not need to advertise.

I have a better idea, stop meddling in other country's affairs and trying to save the world and pump all that money back into our own infrastructure while maintaining a leaner military geared towards defense and more domestic pursuits. :roll:

The questions is can we afford to NOT advertise at Nascar? The South has the highest level of enlistees and Nascar has an excellent track record (pardon the pun) with this advertising venue; not to mention that Nascar has done quite a bit for military families.

I've never been to Nascar races, but I hear that the Army has kiosks set up that have some kind of vehicles games using technology that the Army currently uses, technology that could be learned by enlisting.

The draft sounds all well and good, but your best soldiers are going to be the ones who want to be there.

I question how much the Armed forces need to advertise at NASCAR, football games, etc.

Yes, you do need to get the word out, but I can think of far better things to do with their money than sponsoring a football game.

The kiosks sound cool, but most of the people I know who joined the military did so because it was the best career available to them. College was not an option.

The draft is a recipe for disaster.

I question how much the Armed forces need to advertise at NASCAR, football games, etc.

Yes, you do need to get the word out, but I can think of far better things to do with their money than sponsoring a football game.

The kiosks sound cool, but most of the people I know who joined the military did so because it was the best career available to them. College was not an option.

The draft is a recipe for disaster.

I agree. I would much prefer a recruiter present the facts to any young man or woman interested in serving...rather than luring them in with video games and offers of college tuition. I breaks my heart to think of all the young people who served in Iraq and were wounded and when they've been interviewed and asked about why they joined, it more often than not has been "to get a chance to go to college". It is disgraceful IMO that a country as wealthy as ours does not value education enough to provide opportunties that do not include being seriously injured or killed for the chance "to go to college." Other interviews I have heard, and people I have actually spoken to, say so often, "it (war) is not like the video games--"

Many people want to serve--my own son is one of them--and he was not lured in, but did a very thorough research on his optins, and has been quite happy with his choice. IMO they each deserve to know exactly what they are volunteering for...Besides, from what I hear, we have too many people now; the DOD says they are cutting back on recruitment--so, this seems a very good place to reduce some spending.
This woman said it better than I could:
Halt to NASCAR Military Advertising Fails - Yahoo! News

Does this really make sense to you? Because I can't seem to make sense out of spending all of this money to attract new recruits to the military especially when The Pentagon just announced that they are proposing to cut 47,000 troops from both The Army and The Marines. So somebody please tell me again why we would be advertising to recruit forces when we already have too many.

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And if government officials think that advertising with NASCAR is a good idea because so many of our service members come from the south, wouldn't advertising with the NFL be better considering it would attract not only southerners, but other people from around the country as well. The Super Bowl just beat the record for the most watched television show , with 111 million viewers tuning in 2011. And a 30 second ad that ran during The Super Bowl would have cost the military only $3 million and would have reached that many viewers. Now compare that with the amount of viewers who watched the Daytona 500 in 2010, about 29.8 million. You can also compare the average Monday night football game which about 15 million viewers to the average NASCAR race which has about 6.17 million viewers. So which sport would be more profitable to advertise with? You tell me.

Once more, it seems to be more about $$ than anything else.

I question how much the Armed forces need to advertise at NASCAR, football games, etc.

Yes, you do need to get the word out, but I can think of far better things to do with their money than sponsoring a football game.

The kiosks sound cool, but most of the people I know who joined the military did so because it was the best career available to them. College was not an option.

The draft is a recipe for disaster.

According to Col. Derek W. Crotts, who manages the Army's NASCAR marketing and advertising program, nearly one-third -- 46,000 -- of the 150,000 leads Army recruiters get each year come from motorsports events.

Once more, it seems to be more about $$ than anything else.

I have to disagree, Glenda. IMHO, it more about McCollum pandering to Tea party members and her constituency. 7 million is a drop in the bucket when you're curbing expenses in a multi- billion dollar deficit. Probably half of that alone went to some CEO of a Bank who was the benefactor of Tarp funds.

According to Col. Derek W. Crotts, who manages the Army's NASCAR marketing and advertising program, nearly one-third -- 46,000 -- of the 150,000 leads Army recruiters get each year come from motorsports events.

Read more: Bang for Buck Not an Issue to Congresswoman Seeking to Defund Army Sponsorship in NASCAR - FoxNews.com

You can't negate the figures. The Army is simply advertising to it's target audience. They already recruit at schools, use Facebook, etc.
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But they are AT the events - I am talking about TV ads etc.

Keep in mind they serve alcohol at NASCAR events.

if we had mandatory service, we would not engage in oil wars. we are now content to "send in the irish, use them up 1st".

Isn't mandatory service against the idea of a free country?

Our all volunteer military is the best in the world. If it aint broke, don't try and fix it.

I have to disagree, Glenda. IMHO, it more about McCollum pandering to Tea party members and her constituency. 7 million is a drop in the bucket when you're curbing expenses in a multi- billion dollar deficit. Probably half of that alone went to some CEO of a Bank who was the benefactor of Tarp funds.

I was talking about the money going to the NASCAR people...not the Congresswoman. Just another version of a cronyism in "military contracts..."

Our all volunteer military is the best in the world. If it aint broke, don't try and fix it.

sure it is...it's the best military in the world funded by china. paid by china, jobs program for the poor

Isn't mandatory service against the idea of a free country?

america is free for those that have. they don't have to serve anyone, even themselves. put the senator's son in harms way for a change.

tell me about the funding level for military pensions again please. best in the world, make it up as you go along. make up the paranoid object to be public service unions, put the military on a pedestal, beholden to no one. fill the ranks with the poor, fight for oil, repeat.

Many politicians are veterans and/or have family members who serve.

20% of the 535 members of the new Congress have served in the military, 25 from the Senate and 90 from the House of Representatives. And that is a decrease - back in 1975 more than 70% were veterans.

Both our current Governor and Lieutenant Governor are veterans.

We don't go to war because the military is not well enough represented in our government.

Fun Fact: Of all the 20th Century Presidents, only Ike had more time in uniform than Carter (he tops the list with 7 years in the Navy).