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[quote="ray, post: 530447"]wow ft myers real estate in some places down 80% food banks over flowing. [B]i hope i didn't make a mistake recently buying on 30-a[/B] . here's the link 
[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/us/08lehigh.html[/URL][/quote]
 
 
No comment! :D

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="ray">wow ft myers real estate in some places down 80% food banks over flowing. i hope i didn&#039;t make a mistake recently buying on 30-a . here&#039;s the link 
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/us/08lehigh.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/us/08lehigh.html</a></blockquote> 
 
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TooFarTampa

[quote="30ashopper, post: 530467"]No comment! :D[/quote]

I read the story earlier today and definitely was thinking that Lehigh Acres is NOT 30-A.  It's a sad situation though. Possibly as much of their own making as anything else. I noticed the woman they chose to feature had overborrowed/overspent against a house she had owned for 18 years. Let's hope that one silver lining of this mess is that more people understand fiscal responsibility ... and more lenders cannot lend irresponsibly.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="30ashopper">No comment! 😀</blockquote> 
I read the story earlier today and definitely was thinking that Lehigh Acres is NOT 30-A. It&#039;s a sad situation though. Possibly as much of their own making as anything else. I noticed the woman they chose to feature had overborrowed/overspent against a house she had owned for 18 years. Let&#039;s hope that one silver lining of this mess is that more people understand fiscal responsibility ... and more lenders cannot lend irresponsibly.

traderx

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I perused a real estate agent's website in Naples and it is a remarkable site. I have never seen so many graphs. One of his comments is that eighty percent of the market is overpriced. I would guess that is true on 30-a as well. I view the new properties to hit the market a few days per week and IMHO, most are grossly overpriced. That suggests to me that there is still a reckoning to be had on 30-a. There is some fear but there seems to be more smugness, if that is the right word. This could be an interesting year. I will refrain from posting individual properties again. That did not seem to go over very well. :shock:

I perused a real estate agent&#039;s website in Naples and it is a remarkable site. I have never seen so many graphs. One of his comments is that eighty percent of the market is overpriced. I would guess that is true on 30-a as well. I view the new properties to hit the market a few days per week and IMHO, most are grossly overpriced. That suggests to me that there is still a reckoning to be had on 30-a. There is some fear but there seems to be more smugness, if that is the right word. This could be an interesting year. I will refrain from posting individual properties again. That did not seem to go over very well. :shock:

mikecat adjuster

[quote="TooFarTampa, post: 530488"]I read the story earlier today and definitely was thinking that Lehigh Acres is NOT 30-A. It's a sad situation though. Possibly as much of their own making as anything else. I noticed the woman they chose to feature had overborrowed/overspent against a house she had owned for 18 years. Let's hope that one silver lining of this mess is that more people understand fiscal responsibility ... and more lenders cannot lend irresponsibly.[/quote]
 
I noticed the same thing about the article (overborrowed/overspent). There are so many innocent people who are and who will suffer during this, but there are so many others who simply allowed greed to rule or had a total disregard for simple economics. I hate to be critical of people though because so many good people are suffering, but yes, that jumped out at me too.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="TooFarTampa">I read the story earlier today and definitely was thinking that Lehigh Acres is NOT 30-A. It&#039;s a sad situation though. Possibly as much of their own making as anything else. I noticed the woman they chose to feature had overborrowed/overspent against a house she had owned for 18 years. Let&#039;s hope that one silver lining of this mess is that more people understand fiscal responsibility ... and more lenders cannot lend irresponsibly.</blockquote> 
I noticed the same thing about the article (overborrowed/overspent). There are so many innocent people who are and who will suffer during this, but there are so many others who simply allowed greed to rule or had a total disregard for simple economics. I hate to be critical of people though because so many good people are suffering, but yes, that jumped out at me too.

[quote="mikecatadjuster, post: 530607"]I noticed the same thing about the article (overborrowed/overspent). There are so many innocent people who are and who will suffer during this, but there are so many others who simply allowed greed to rule or had a total disregard for simple economics. I hate to be critical of people though because so many good people are suffering, but yes, that jumped out at me too.[/quote]

The flip side is that in the comments section there were a couple of Lee County teachers who wrote very detailed, interesting analyses. They said the article was accurate and that a big problem was the naivete (or as they put it, lack of education) of people who thought if the bank was willing to lend them money then that meant they could afford it. I don't live in that world, so I don't know if that is a good assessment or not of why this happened. But they added that kids are truly going hungry -- wolfing down the free school lunch and breakfasts and suffering over the weekends -- and that's pretty hard to swallow.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="mikecatadjuster">I noticed the same thing about the article (overborrowed/overspent). There are so many innocent people who are and who will suffer during this, but there are so many others who simply allowed greed to rule or had a total disregard for simple economics. I hate to be critical of people though because so many good people are suffering, but yes, that jumped out at me too.</blockquote> 
The flip side is that in the comments section there were a couple of Lee County teachers who wrote very detailed, interesting analyses. They said the article was accurate and that a big problem was the naivete (or as they put it, lack of education) of people who thought if the bank was willing to lend them money then that meant they could afford it. I don&#039;t live in that world, so I don&#039;t know if that is a good assessment or not of why this happened. But they added that kids are truly going hungry -- wolfing down the free school lunch and breakfasts and suffering over the weekends -- and that&#039;s pretty hard to swallow.

AAbsolute

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[quote="TooFarTampa, post: 530612"]The flip side is that in the comments section there were a couple of Lee County teachers who wrote very detailed, interesting analyses. They said the article was accurate and that a big problem was the naivete (or as they put it, lack of education) of people who thought if the bank was willing to lend them money then that meant they could afford it. I don't live in that world, so I don't know if that is a good assessment or not of why this happened. But they added that kids are truly going hungry -- wolfing down the free school lunch and breakfasts and suffering over the weekends -- and that's pretty hard to swallow.[/quote]
 
Going without food tends to make it hard to swallow.
 
Does anyone else onboard ever get the feeling that Osama Bin Laden sees this as a victory?  With his skill in propaganda he may be able to inject added instability PRN.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="TooFarTampa">The flip side is that in the comments section there were a couple of Lee County teachers who wrote very detailed, interesting analyses. They said the article was accurate and that a big problem was the naivete (or as they put it, lack of education) of people who thought if the bank was willing to lend them money then that meant they could afford it. I don&#039;t live in that world, so I don&#039;t know if that is a good assessment or not of why this happened. But they added that kids are truly going hungry -- wolfing down the free school lunch and breakfasts and suffering over the weekends -- and that&#039;s pretty hard to swallow.</blockquote> 
Going without food tends to make it hard to swallow. 
 
Does anyone else onboard ever get the feeling that Osama Bin Laden sees this as a victory? With his skill in propaganda he may be able to inject added instability PRN.

[quote="AAbsolute, post: 530638"]Going without food tends to make it hard to swallow.
 
Does anyone else onboard ever get the feeling that Osama Bin Laden sees this as a victory?  With his skill in propaganda he may be able to inject added instability PRN.[/quote]a criminal hiding in a cave scores a victory?  no

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="AAbsolute">Going without food tends to make it hard to swallow. 
 
Does anyone else onboard ever get the feeling that Osama Bin Laden sees this as a victory? With his skill in propaganda he may be able to inject added instability PRN.</blockquote>a criminal hiding in a cave scores a victory? no

scooterbug44

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I don't know that he sees it as a victory, but I am sure he is happy that we are having a rough time. :angry:

I don&#039;t know that he sees it as a victory, but I am sure he is happy that we are having a rough time. :angry:

Matt J

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[quote="Bob, post: 530690"]a criminal hiding in a cave scores a victory?  no[/quote]

If he's even alive, most intelligence doesn't put him in a cave.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Bob">a criminal hiding in a cave scores a victory? no</blockquote> 
If he&#039;s even alive, most intelligence doesn&#039;t put him in a cave.

[quote="Bob, post: 530690"]a criminal hiding in a cave scores a victory? no[/quote]
 
Osama Bin Laden doesn't care if he lives in a cave, a hole or at sea.  His focus is destabilzation including economic havoc and despair.  He could be barely breathing and he'd still follow his plan.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Bob">a criminal hiding in a cave scores a victory? no</blockquote> 
Osama Bin Laden doesn&#039;t care if he lives in a cave, a hole or at sea. His focus is destabilzation including economic havoc and despair. He could be barely breathing and he&#039;d still follow his plan.

[quote="AAbsolute, post: 530891"]Osama Bin Laden doesn't care if he lives in a cave, a hole or at sea.  His focus is destabilzation including economic havoc and despair.  He could be barely breathing and he'd still follow his plan.[/quote]

We really could have done without the pics.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="AAbsolute">Osama Bin Laden doesn&#039;t care if he lives in a cave, a hole or at sea. His focus is destabilzation including economic havoc and despair. He could be barely breathing and he&#039;d still follow his plan.</blockquote> 
We really could have done without the pics.

[quote="sowalgayboi, post: 530988"]We really could have done without the pics.[/quote]
 
Sorry real life offends you.  Just know that with every success the economy starts to show there are countries and groups that are trying to smother it.  This economy has a lot to deal with and out of site/out of mind can only take the recovery so far.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="sowalgayboi">We really could have done without the pics.</blockquote> 
Sorry real life offends you. Just know that with every success the economy starts to show there are countries and groups that are trying to smother it. This economy has a lot to deal with and out of site/out of mind can only take the recovery so far.

[quote="AAbsolute, post: 531126"]Sorry real life offends you.  Just know that with every success the economy starts to show there are countries and groups that are trying to smother it.  This economy has a lot to deal with and out of site/out of mind can only take the recovery so far.[/quote]

Real life doesn't offend me.  However this discussion started out as a look at the Real Estate market in Ft. Meyers.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="AAbsolute">Sorry real life offends you. Just know that with every success the economy starts to show there are countries and groups that are trying to smother it. This economy has a lot to deal with and out of site/out of mind can only take the recovery so far.</blockquote> 
Real life doesn&#039;t offend me. However this discussion started out as a look at the Real Estate market in Ft. Meyers.

[quote="AAbsolute, post: 530891"]Osama Bin Laden doesn't care if he lives in a cave, a hole or at sea.  His focus is destabilzation including economic havoc and despair.  He could be barely breathing and he'd still follow his plan.[/quote]at some point, you have to move on, or should we talk about pearl harbor?

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="AAbsolute">Osama Bin Laden doesn&#039;t care if he lives in a cave, a hole or at sea. His focus is destabilzation including economic havoc and despair. He could be barely breathing and he&#039;d still follow his plan.</blockquote>at some point, you have to move on, or should we talk about pearl harbor?

ClintClint

[quote="Bob, post: 531287"]at some point, you have to move on, or should we talk about pearl harbor?[/quote]
 
Chill. I think someone from New York may have a sensitivity we should be able to understand and tolerate.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Bob">at some point, you have to move on, or should we talk about pearl harbor?</blockquote> 
Chill. I think someone from New York may have a sensitivity we should be able to understand and tolerate.

About 14,000,000 people could see those 2 buildings in real time, with the naked eye that day.  It may be hard to imagine but it's true.  My point has nothing to do with the past.  This is a current and continuing event.  My point is still the same, there are foreign groups operating to disrupt any economic successes America will experience.  Recovery from the descriptive [I]depression[/I] will involve a staving off new events.  Be mindful.
 
This has a lot to do with gongs and drums [U]and[/U] banners and flags.  Recovery from the lack of confidence is going to mean that a lot of us will need to understand these things.

About 14,000,000 people could see those 2 buildings in real time, with the naked eye that day. It may be hard to imagine but it&#039;s true. My point has nothing to do with the past. This is a current and continuing event. My point is still the same, there are foreign groups operating to disrupt any economic successes America will experience. Recovery from the descriptive depression will involve a staving off new events. Be mindful. 
 
This has a lot to do with gongs and drums and banners and flags. Recovery from the lack of confidence is going to mean that a lot of us will need to understand these things.

gmarc

wow ft myers real estate in some places down 80% food banks over flowing. i hope i didn't make a mistake recently buying on 30-a . here's the link 
[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/us/08lehigh.html[/URL]

wow ft myers real estate in some places down 80% food banks over flowing. i hope i didn&#039;t make a mistake recently buying on 30-a . here&#039;s the link 
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/us/08lehigh.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/us/08lehigh.html</a>

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