Obama a Partisan President

This morning, Senator George LeMieux emailed his most recent newsletter which included the following on the student loans from the "Health Care" reconciliation bill:

Sen. LeMieux Newsletter


Stop the Federal Takeovers

Included in the health care "fixer" legislation called the reconciliation bill, are provisions allowing the federal government to take over the student loan program. This will deprive 15 million students the ability to choose among 2,000 lenders and force them into the federal student loan system.

What's more, under this legislation Washington would eliminate an estimated 31,000 jobs - including 1,200 in Florida. Recently, I visited the Sallie Mae facilities near Panama City, FL. I made clear my support for a solution that protects these private sector jobs in a fiscally prudent way.
During debate, I asked colleagues to halt the takeover at least until Congress could explore the issue and find a bipartisan solution.

Unfortunately, the majority wouldn't even let my amendment come to a vote. This federal takeover will have become law without a single congressional hearing on the substance of the provisions.

On health care, student loans, and a number of other national issues, Washington lawmakers need to listen to the concerns of Floridians and others around the nation and conduct the people's work in an open and transparent fashion. Americans expect and deserve to see, hear and provide input on the process of lawmaking. Anything less is a disservice to the democratic process.

Was I the only one who caught that this was done to END BILLIONS in subsidies to private banks?

Put that in your teapot and steep it!

Yes- Fox has been airing the protests of the banks and insurance companies as proof that this bill already isn't working.

"Under financial-aid provisions in the bill, all students and parents beginning next fall will borrow directly from the federal government, ending a program in which the government subsidized private lenders to provide federal loans"

Full story can be found on www.wsj.com

Part of the left stream media ya' know.

At least learn the difference between socialism and communism. :roll:

Communism A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people. BELIEVE THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE OBAMA GANG AND HIS FELLOW DEMOCRATS...


so?cial?ism Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. Sounds like our government since Obama took over, cars, banks, health, college loans, and who knows what else.



Your point?

At least learn the difference between socialism and communism. :roll:

Communism A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people. BELIEVE THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE OBAMA GANG AND HIS FELLOW DEMOCRATS...


so?cial?ism Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. Sounds like our government since Obama took over, cars, banks, health, college loans, and who knows what else.



Your point?

You seem to love your talking points, but could you point out where Obama took over cars and banks?

As to college loans he didn't take over anything. College Loans are offered under Title IV funding and until this law was passed was offered through a very few private businesses. Those private businesses started out as Federal programs and slowly became private entities.

I'm still not seeing the proof that the government has taken over health care, if they had one would then assume that the health insurance and pharma stocks that have seen a huge increase since the bill was signed are just abnormalities? Who would invest in something that's about to be taken over by the government?

You seem to love your talking points, but could you point out where Obama took over cars and banks?

As to college loans he didn't take over anything. College Loans are offered under Title IV funding and until this law was passed was offered through a very few private businesses. Those private businesses started out as Federal programs and slowly became private entities.

I'm still not seeing the proof that the government has taken over health care, if they had one would then assume that the health insurance and pharma stocks that have seen a huge increase since the bill was signed are just abnormalities? Who would invest in something that's about to be taken over by the government?

Surely you jest SWGB.

Automobile bailouts that make the federal government their boss so to speak, in charge of salaries, bonuses, etc. In fact they are even suggesting cars that they should be built. My tax money was used for this take over by my government.

Banks and financial organizations bailed out, being told by the government now how to run their institutions. Salaries and bonuses dictated by the government. My tax money was used for this bailout and take over by my government.

The student loan overhaul fulfills a long-time goal of Democratic lawmakers to end the bankers' role as middlemen and replace them with direct federal loans and aid to students. ( this little dittie was stuck or rather hidden in a health care bill.) The change will cap college graduates' annual student loan repayments at 10 percent of their income, and awards $2.55 billion to historically black colleges and universities. And why should 'special" schools get such a big bulk of tax payers money....why not take those billions and spread them to all schools.

I also wonder if this "loan takeover" will also not be used to select who gets these loans. I also wonder just how many of these loans willnot be fully paid back by some of the borrowers. The government doesn't have a good record of book keeping or running programs. The funny thing is that the government is already predicting how much money will be saved by this take over and already spending it.

As far as Health Care goes...give it time...give it time...there are so many hidden "Treats and Tricks" in that 2000 + page bill that Obama signed...that had so many special deals tucked into it to get the vote.... that we all are going to be surprised and also hurt by it....just give it time.

Surely you jest SWGB.

Automobile bailouts that make the federal government their boss so to speak, in charge of salaries, bonuses, etc. In fact they are even suggesting cars that they should be built. My tax money was used for this take over by my government.

Banks and financial organizations bailed out, being told by the government now how to run their institutions. Salaries and bonuses dictated by the government. My tax money was used for this bailout and take over by my government.

The student loan overhaul fulfills a long-time goal of Democratic lawmakers to end the bankers' role as middlemen and replace them with direct federal loans and aid to students. ( this little dittie was stuck or rather hidden in a health care bill.) The change will cap college graduates' annual student loan repayments at 10 percent of their income, and awards $2.55 billion to historically black colleges and universities. And why should 'special" schools get such a big bulk of tax payers money....why not take those billions and spread them to all schools.

I also wonder if this "loan takeover" will also not be used to select who gets these loans. I also wonder just how many of these loans willnot be fully paid back by some of the borrowers. The government doesn't have a good record of book keeping or running programs. The funny thing is that the government is already predicting how much money will be saved by this take over and already spending it.

As far as Health Care goes...give it time...give it time...there are so many hidden "Treats and Tricks" in that 2000 + page bill that Obama signed...that had so many special deals tucked into it to get the vote.... that we all are going to be surprised and also hurt by it....just give it time.

No I don't jest, you honestly don't know what you are talking about when it comes to student loans. I can assure you of that.

Do you have sources for any of your claims? I mean other than Glen Beck?

No I don't jest, you honestly don't know what you are talking about when it comes to student loans. I can assure you of that.

Do you have sources for any of your claims? I mean other than Glen Beck?

I also wonder if this "loan takeover" will also not be used to select who gets these loans. I also wonder just how many of these loans willnot be fully paid back by some of the borrowers. The government doesn't have a good record of book keeping or running programs. The funny thing is that the government is already predicting how much money will be saved by this take over and already spending it.


And the banking industry does have a good record of book keeping and running programs?

While it may not be great, it is sure as hell better than the governments

Let me assure you that the US governments financial track record makes them look like money watching hawks compared to SallieMae.

I admittedly know nothing about SallieMae and the above multi quote was in error. (I don't know how I did it.). I went back to school on the GI bill and was very thankful for it and what it did for me, personally. In some circles, I am now considered as smart as many of those of a Liberal persuasion.

So does going back to school and having it paid for by the government make you a Socialist?


hmmmmmm:scratch:

So does going back to school and having it paid for by the government make you a Socialist?


hmmmmmm:scratch:

You forgot the free government health care for life!

(I think vets deserve it, just saying. )

I didn't forget it, Ijust ignored it. There are some things we were promised on enlistment that were not given to us when we retired but we earned. Now, we have them and I thank you, Bud Day. Because of him and some wonderful doctors, my wife is still alive and very much involved in life.