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Quitting: all the cool policticians are doing it

Here4Good avatar
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Mel Martinez apparently finds being our Senator for the entire term to which he was elected to be too much of a commitment:

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - First on the CNN Ticker: Florida senator to resign seat ? - Blogs from CNN.com

I am guessing that this is some sort of master plan to insure that the seat remains in Republican hands, another fine example of an elected official putting party above constituents.

From Politico:
"Martinez is the second Republican senator in the last several weeks to announce resignation plans, joining Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.). Hutchison said she would probably be resigning in October or November, paving the way for a May 2010 special election in Texas."

I am not picking on Republicans, here, they just seem to be at the forefront of this trend.

He is rumored to be interested in the FSU job.

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30ashopper avatar
SoWal Insider
#52
That's one reason I think we need to limit the length of all the campaigns - people are spending more time running FOR the office than they are SERVING in the office!

Also why I think we need campaign finance reform - many elected officials are beholden to their contributors, or the party machine, not their constituents.

Limiting campaign time violates people's rights. If we really want to solve the problems of Washington corruption, we should force Congress to amend the Constitution to enact congressional term limits.

Eliminate the opportunity for people to amass power and you eliminate most of the problems we have with congress.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#53
Limiting campaign time violates people's rights. If we really want to solve the problems of Washington corruption, we should force Congress to amend the Constitution to enact congressional term limits.

Eliminate the opportunity for people to amass power and you eliminate most of the problems we have with congress.
then you set up a scenario of newbies on a perpetual learning curve too dependent on their then-corrupt staffs. kill the lobbyist money, level the playing field on tv/media, then people would be held accountable, and new ideas would be heard.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#54
I said Nixon was the Father of modern conservative quitters. I really believe, like most people, that when you are elected to political office you are fulfilling a trust given to you by your constituents. That is what democracy is all about. You elect your representatives, for good or bad (and it works both ways) You don't elect the "Joe the Plumber", who is appointed when he runs out the door. Florida is now not fully represented in the middle of one of the worst Senate battles in recent history. Not so funny anymore...is it?
mel martinez is a lightweight who is doing what he is being told behind closed doors. wait for the next move.
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#55
On the flip side, John Edwards apparently wasn't busy enough. :biggrin:

:biggrin:...can of worms.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#56
:biggrin:...can of worms.
nice house
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#57
nice house

sad family
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#58
sad family
money will do dat
30ashopper avatar
SoWal Insider
#59
then you set up a scenario of newbies on a perpetual learning curve too dependent on their then-corrupt staffs. kill the lobbyist money, level the playing field on tv/media, then people would be held accountable, and new ideas would be heard.

You can't - individual rights should not be infringed no matter what.

IMHO a congress filled with newbies interested in serving their country (and nothing else) sure sounds like a better situation than the entrenched power mongering hustlers we have there now.
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#60
money will do dat

i'd say it was unzipped pants.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#61
You can't - individual rights should not be infringed no matter what.

IMHO a congress filled with newbies interested in serving their country (and nothing else) sure sounds like a better situation than the entrenched power mongering hustlers we have there now.
laws infringe on rights, the static political dogma you espouse here perpetuates long standing corruption.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#62
i'd say it was unzipped pants.
money got him in the motel room though
TooFarTampa avatar
SoWal Insider
#63
money got him in the motel room though

don't forget the hair and teeth!
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#64
don't forget the hair and teeth!

:bang:...ugh, why did we do this to ourselves???? :biggrin:

where is that db, anyway?
TooFarTampa avatar
SoWal Insider
#65
:bang:...ugh, why did we do this to ourselves???? :biggrin:

where is that db, anyway?

don't know, don't care, that poor little baby does look like him tho :(
30ashopper avatar
SoWal Insider
#66
laws infringe on rights, the static political dogma you espouse here perpetuates long standing corruption.

"static political dogma"? You mean the ideals, beliefs and ideology our country was founded on right? The same ideals you would willingly toss aside to achieve what you consider utopia - a utopia where the sanctity of the right to individual freedom no longer exists. You think my ideology puts us on the fast track to corruption? Really?? Are you serious??? Look around brother! Those "static ideals", what's left of them anyway, are the only thing keeping us from falling off the deep end.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#67
"static political dogma"? You mean the ideals, beliefs and ideology our country was founded on right? The same ideals you would willingly toss aside to achieve what you consider utopia - a utopia where the sanctity of the right to individual freedom no longer exists. You think my ideology puts us on the fast track to corruption? Really?? Are you serious??? Look around brother! Those "static ideals", what's left of them anyway, are the only thing keeping us from falling off the deep end.
come on now, you been downloading ron paul porn again. let's play the video where he argues the cause of the great depression with bernanke. you well know individual rights can exist checked by law when necessary. we aren't falling off the deep end, although all the free market ghouls pushed us right to the precipice with mbs/derivatives.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#68
don't forget the hair and teeth!
sociopathic hair, narcissist teeth
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#69
sociopathic hair, narcissist teeth

:eek:...poor baby!
30ashopper avatar
SoWal Insider
#70
come on now, you been downloading ron paul porn again. let's play the video where he argues the cause of the great depression with bernanke. you well know individual rights can exist checked by law when necessary. we aren't falling off the deep end, although all the free market ghouls pushed us right to the precipice with mbs/derivatives.

The solution to corruption does not involve restricting individual freedom. Your view is very pessimistic - you're claim infers we are all flawed and incapable of good deeds. I say that's bull****. Elect me to congress and I can assure you I will not take a single dime from a lobbyist. We are not inherently evil creatures who need to be watched over and managed. If you're tired of politicians who are at the beck and call of special interests, try voting for different politicians.

Generally I feel the rights afforded to us by the Constitution should not be infringed, under any circumstance. You probably feel this should not be the case, you probably think there are special circumstances where we should flush our rights down the toilet. That's typical of social democrats. I personally disagree with that view.

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30ashopper avatar
SoWal Insider
#71
I said Nixon was the Father of modern conservative quitters. I really believe, like most people, that when you are elected to political office you are fulfilling a trust given to you by your constituents. That is what democracy is all about. You elect your representatives, for good or bad (and it works both ways) You don't elect the "Joe the Plumber", who is appointed when he runs out the door. Florida is now not fully represented in the middle of one of the worst Senate battles in recent history. Not so funny anymore...is it?

You're playing politics here - trying to demonizing a particular political party by singling out one member. FYI you're not adding to the discussion, your subtracting from it.

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Lynnie avatar
SoWal Insider
#72
I could be wrong, but Nixon didn't have much choice, did he? His violation was serious and he had already been impeached. He was facing the next hearings of removal from office. Palin and Martinez, respectively, were not and have not been impeached.
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#73
I'll admit to a good portion of snarkiness with the Nixon reference. He had no choice. If impeached, he would have lost his pension. I guess I was quite irritated by these apologist that say quitting a public office is the same as quitting a job. It simply isn't the same.
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#74
Exactly how is limiting the amount of time ALL possible candidates may run for a specific office violating someone's individual rights? :idontno:
Lynnie avatar
SoWal Insider
#75
I'll admit to a good portion of snarkiness with the Nixon reference. He had no choice. If impeached, he would have lost his pension. I guess I was quite irritated by these apologist that say quitting a public office is the same as quitting a job. It simply isn't the same.

Really? If he had been removed from office after the impeachment, he would have lost his pension? I didn't know that. Would he have lost Secret Service Agents for life as well? Was his resignation along this strategy? I've never really considered this, but it does make sense. Thanks for enlightening me.

I view a politician as quitting a public service office as probably a good thing. I have no desire to question their decisions and look forward to the new blood coming in..........wahoo~~~~~~ ;-) Change is a good thang!
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#76
Don't get me wrong. I'm completely in favor of term limits. I just see a problem with quitting in midterm just because you feel like it. The vacuums that this would create would lead to even more incompetence than we see right now. Do you really want "Joe the Plumber"as your Senator?

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