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You are looking to start a drunken brawl?

I wonder how far back in time the records go. My guess is not too far. We've been through periods when our coastline was miles inland, likely up into Alabama and Georgia, where Walton County was under water. This would have been caused by the warming of the polar ice.

On the flip side, we've also been through periods where much sea water was pulled up into ice, moving our shoreline further out to sea from today's shoreline. Today, we are somewhere in the middle of an ever-changing world, if you look at only the last twenty thousand years. Looking further back, we are no where close to the middle.

When I hear people talking about changing it back (whatever "it" happens to be) to the way it was, I always wonder what they mean, since the world has been changing for a long time and is never the same way twice.

For me going back would mean a healthy atmosphere and the survival of amazing ecosystems across the planet. And not drowning cities along the coast where 90% of the population has decided it's nice to live.

We're not talking about gentle geologic time here. We're talking about decimating life on earth. As keystone species start disappearing in select environments, many other species in those ecosystems will topple like dominoes. Sure, the earth will move on in amazing ways but in the meantime billions of people will suffer and die from drought, disease, and starvation.





Have a nice day SoWal. :wave:

For me going back would mean a healthy atmosphere and the survival of amazing ecosystems across the planet. And not drowning cities along the coast where 90% of the population has decided it's nice to live.

We're not talking about gentle geologic time here. We're talking about decimating life on earth. As keystone species start disappearing in select environments, many other species in those ecosystems will topple like dominoes. Sure, the earth will move on in amazing ways but in the meantime billions of people will suffer and die from drought, disease, and starvation.





Have a nice day SoWal. :wave:

I'll wager disease, starvation and human misery correlate inversely with CO2 levels. When we reach the tipping point, ie, no more ice is available for boat drinks, l think you'll get some SOWALians interested. :lol:

I'll wager disease, starvation and human misery correlate inversely with CO2 levels.

Interesting thought Skunky. If you mean technology and knowledge has moved us forward I would agree. However there are always 2 sides to the coin. No? Disease may be on the run from smart folks recently but do you think at some point we'll reach a tripping point with new bugs we can't control very well, or maybe that we even create ourselves? Starvation is going to be a problem unless we start growing hamburger as I've heard is a big hope. And as far as misery, is it possible that the more technology we have the more oppressed the human spirit becomes?

Here's another perspective from a little longer time period- up to 60 Million years ago.

Yeah but the earth is only 6000 years old.

Since the US life expectancy is going down, I do think we may have reached the point where our "advances" have either peaked or are working against us.

We are creating some nasty bugs through our overuse of antibiotics and unclean hospital and livestock operations, not to mention all the chemicals and plastics that are poisoning us and causing major increases in health problems.

And while I do not necessarily agree on the global warming conclusions, there is no doubt in my mind that we are changing the planet at an extreme rate - and that is never good.

Yeah but the earth is only 6000 years old.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: Yep, that sure throws a wrench in it doesn't it :lol:

Come on y'all...jsut stop exhaling all that CO2! :spin:

You are looking to start a drunken brawl?

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Interesting thought Skunky. If you mean technology and knowledge has moved us forward I would agree. However there are always 2 sides to the coin. No? Disease may be on the run from smart folks recently but do you think at some point we'll reach a tripping point with new bugs we can't control very well, or maybe that we even create ourselves? Starvation is going to be a problem unless we start growing hamburger as I've heard is a big hope. And as far as misery, is it possible that the more technology we have the more oppressed the human spirit becomes?

You make good points, but you will not bait me into a drunken brawl, sir.

Interesting thought Skunky. If you mean technology and knowledge has moved us forward I would agree. However there are always 2 sides to the coin. No? Disease may be on the run from smart folks recently but do you think at some point we'll reach a tripping point with new bugs we can't control very well, or maybe that we even create ourselves? Starvation is going to be a problem unless we start growing hamburger as I've heard is a big hope. And as far as misery, is it possible that the more technology we have the more oppressed the human spirit becomes?

from the plow to the assembly line to the cubicle farm...what changed other than expectations?

I think climate change should be a litmus test. Then again, maybe our one, true litmus test should be to ask would-be politicians to describe an actual litmus test before they can file for office.