School uniforms

doesn't mean we can't audition some more...

:scratch: Hmmmmmm............................... good point

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Guess y'all will start the cheerleader and naughty nurse threads next.:roll:

I have no problem with the contol aspect- it is all about respecting authority, the rules, and elders. Many kids have no boundaries or control at home, and I don't think it is a good thing for the kids to be "on the same level" as their authority figures. Kids crave a structure and flounder without rules and order in place. I don't think anyone's freedom of expression or creativity is stifled because they have to wear a uniform, or because they have to respect someone in a position of authority. The kids who want to express themselves will do it in many ways other than their clothes, and if kids and parents think that school clothes are an important form of self-expression, then they aren't very creative to begin with!

Uniforms are definitely good to supress the peer pressure of having designer clothes, but I disagree about structure. School is from top to bottom about rules and order, and it is a place where bored, creative kids end up mentally "in the corner" for the sake of assembly line "prepare for the state test" education. Uniforms are a powerful message of control and conformity, and are best used in religious schools, the military, and any business or government venue that deems it necessary for comensurate public perception. My wife has taught for almost 24 years as an elementary school teacher, 20 years in the same clasroom[talk about being in a rut!], and we have managed to raise 2 thoughtful, over-acheiving teenagers both of whom are model citizens in their classrooms. I cannot imagine that uniforms would have enhanced their education. At the same time, we have instilled in them, the profound skill of subtly questioning authority, not blindly following rules, and having a very healthy skepticism of many elders who are either "full of it" or who don't seem to have a grip on the chaotic, frenzied pace of modern society. Schools should be a place of learning, not a boot camp. With that said, I believe all parents should have a say in this matter, as everyone's situation cannot possibly be the same.

another brick in the wall

I'm sure the boys in SoWal would love to be able to wear shorts like these to school on those hot Spring days. :funn:





If these are the school girls, please let me go back in time. They didn't look like this when I was in school.

I'm sure the boys in SoWal would love to be able to wear shorts like these to school on those hot Spring days. :funn:





If these are the school girls, please let me go back in time. They didn't look like this when I was in school.

If these were your classmates, you wouldn't be able to stand up after the class bell rang.

Talk about a distraction from education... :roll:. Maybe all girls need to cover their heads like in Afganistan, so that we guys can focus on ... what was I talking about ?

First of all, let me just say this post was way to long for me to read tonight....I get distracted very easy.....

Having said that...I will now weigh in on the uniform "debate".

My kids go to a Catholic school -- informs are required. I do not spend anymore on clothes then I would if my kids went to public school. Sure, they need the "trendy" clothes for the weekend, but for what I spend for school uniforms...doesn't even come close to having them needing those items 5 days a week. My 13 year old gets by with 2 pair of pants (one day he has gym) and my 6 year has 2 jumpers, but 1 has been out of commission since a button came off a month ago (I'm not much of a seamstress, but I do stand by staples and duct tape).

Having said all of this, the one thing I have experienced after 8 years of uniforms, the kids will still find their own way of being unique. The biggest issue we face every morning is socks. Believe it or not, it can make or break your day!

Not sure I made a point, sorry for the ramble, I guess that's why I prefer to lurk

If these were your classmates, you wouldn't be able to stand up after the class bell rang.

Just thought I would toss in this link for a uniform supplier http://www.parkersu.com/index.htmlthat one of our local schools uses. My friends actually have a sale at their school where parents can buy used uniforms form prior students---nice as well so they can have many choices.

Having said all of this, the one thing I have experienced after 8 years of uniforms, the kids will still find their own way of being unique.

May 11th will be my baby son's last day of high school, he graduates the 21st, and I will officially be done worrying about all this stuff.
While I agree that uniforms are a method of control, I think it's true that no matter what kids wear to school, they find a way to show their individuality (such as it is.)
One day at my kid's old school in Denver, I walked up the steps and saw a girl wearing kitty ears. Everything else she had on was normal. She just had on a pair of kitty ears. I'm sure many would see no great benefit to this, yet I so no great harm. ;-)

May 11th will be my baby son's last day of high school, he graduates the 21st, and I will officially be done worrying about all this stuff.
While I agree that uniforms are a method of control, I think it's true that no matter what kids wear to school, they find a way to show their individuality (such as it is.)
One day at my kid's old school in Denver, I walked up the steps and saw a girl wearing kitty ears. Everything else she had on was normal. She just had on a pair of kitty ears. I'm sure many would see no great benefit to this, yet I so no great harm. ;-)

Cil, Philippa graduates the day before. We'll both be empty-nesters together!

Cil, Philippa graduates the day before. We'll both be empty-nesters together!

High Five!

Cil, Philippa graduates the day before. We'll both be empty-nesters together!

High Five!

:clap_1: ...welcome to the club ladies!!! It will be a pleasure to have you!

Congrats!!!!

How can we be lonely with so many empty nests?? Congraulations everyone!