Seaside Security & WCSO shut down the music

And hey, lighten up and enjoy the damn music! For every minute we waste on your noise complaint (because you chose to live AT THE BEACH...HELLO!) is a minute we could be ON PATROL in the neighborhoods....you know...preventing thefts and burglaries and such.....

Very well put!

Easy to get the noise OR.

Hello and Goodbye
I first posted this thread as a new person to this area, I have been in the music biz.for a very, very long time, came here to write and enjoy myself.
It took me a matter of seconds to find the Walton CO. noise or. was out of line, the funnioest post came a real estate agent that sold me my home "how can I hear my TV" you should enjoy your daughters voices and turn the TV off
I wish you people luck in your fight but I have left to go back to Nashvegas. TOO much drama over nothing, and the Battle has been dropped by owners that have music, and Salty?Snappershead/ was not shut down because of music, but the owner of the building was forcloused on it hard to Lease a place when the lessor has lost the building.
KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT AND MOST LUCK IN THE MUSIC ISSUE

Hello and Goodbye
I first posted this thread as a new person to this area, I have been in the music biz.for a very, very long time, came here to write and enjoy myself.
It took me a matter of seconds to find the Walton CO. noise or. was out of line, the funnioest post came a real estate agent that sold me my home "how can I hear my TV" you should enjoy your daughters voices and turn the TV off
I wish you people luck in your fight but I have left to go back to Nashvegas. TOO much drama over nothing, and the Battle has been dropped by owners that have music, and Salty?Snappershead/ was not shut down because of music, but the owner of the building was forcloused on it hard to Lease a place when the lessor has lost the building.
KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT AND MOST LUCK IN THE MUSIC ISSUE

BeSafe, as a wife of a full-time musician down here, I am sorry to hear that this issue is causing you to leave. Yes, it sucks that we are dealing with this when our community thrives on tourism & tourists are looking for enjoyment and entertainment while they are on vacation.

I love the fact that we live in a sleepy, little town. Sadly, a few people want us to live in a desolate, run-down, sleepy, little town. The music here has never been out of line nor an issue that needs to be dealt with using a noise ordinance. We need MORE music venues, not less, right now. This issue makes it more difficult for new venues to open and succeed.

Balance will come in the issue, this is only the beginning.

I am setting here here listing to the police radio and they are a pandores ?? in Grayton Beach for music complaint some one called the police and signed a complaint for them to do something.

Ya know...I had a thought today while being bored and wondering who could be calling in all these complaints and at so many different areas at different times. Does anyone else think that since these complaints have gone from one venue to the next that the person complaining could be a disgruntled customer that has possibly been cut-off/banned from just about every place on 30A and is calling in as retaliation?

Does anyone else think that since these complaints have gone from one venue to the next that the person complaining could be a disgruntled customer that has possibly been cut-off/banned from just about every place on 30A and is calling in as retaliation?

JT...

I listened to the scanner lastnight ant the SO had several other complaints at other area also

Could be snowbirds.

JT...

:funnossible.... I had another person in mind that has been known to do stuff like that. As for the 'birds..they, well most of them, have been coming here a long time and this has just started this summer (when rates were still a bit high for them)
But I cant believe that when I had a next door neighbor (that would stay out in the yard partying,playing loud music,hooting and hollering, and shooting his guns off when he got REALLY drunk till the wee hours of the morning,) when I would call in a complaint the sheriffs office told me they couldnt do ANYTHING about it until after 10 pm.

JT...

WRONG!!!!
WRONG!!!!
WRONG!!!!:funn:

Are the complaints public record? I am guessing, not, but what a field day that could be. ;-)

Are the complaints public record? I am guessing, not, but what a field day that could be. ;-)

It's unAmerican to make anonymous complaints. Especially about something as trivial as this.

Unfortunately we HAVE to respond if the person requests us to. Even if there is NO crime. It is a waste of county resources, but alas, the High Sheriff is a political office and depends on votes.....

In this particular instance, there was nothing to enforce. So the deputies not forcing the party to end was right.

As far as code enforcement goes.......they are an ENFORCEMENT agency. How can the office holders of this county justify having an ENFORCEMENT agency with 8-5 office hours? Why not just close their doors for good, save the taxpayers the salaries, insurance, retirement costs, vehicle costs, building costs etc etc etc and train us (WCSO) on the noise thingamejigs and let us handle it? Hell, we're the only ones that respond anyhow. And for what? to tell the complainants, "I'm sorry sir/Ma'am, but I don't have the equipment or training to handle your noise complaint."

The office of code enforcement is just a place to hand out jobs for political favors. I like the post that said, and I paraphrase, "we outta push those good 'ole boys back".

And hey, lighten up and enjoy the damn music! For every minute we waste on your noise complaint (because you chose to live AT THE BEACH...HELLO!) is a minute we could be ON PATROL in the neighborhoods....you know...preventing thefts and burglaries and such.....

Remember you said that this January when "Notorious" the movie drops. I'll be pumping the Biggy in Watercolor.

Hope you jazz fans don't get all hypocritic on me when I pull out the original old school from the master Notorious B I G.

It's unAmerican to make anonymous complaints. Especially about something as trivial as this.

We had to make some noise complaints against a (now) former neighbor over late night loudness when politely asking them to, say, please not celebrate baby Jesus' birthday by shooting off fireworks at 2:00am after midnight mass didn't work. We were told by the OCSO that the complaintant wouldn't get our names; they'd only be told that it was 'someone in the neighborhood'.

Which is fair because you don't want people to feel like they can't complain because they fear retaliation. Once the cop is there, they're the ones actually witnessing any alleged noise violation, not the original complaintant, and it's the cop who is, in theory at least, trained and taught to use equipment to judge whether noise is undr or above acceptable levels.

Complaints should be presented to the offending party complete with the name of Complainor. To not share the name of the Complainor is liberal. The law should be construed strictly and conservatively.

If the Complainee retaliates they should be charged with a now more serious Complaint. To complain anonymously is to start down a slippery and liberal slope. In these anonymous scenarios the balance of justice is weighed against those who are not on the inside. This is an afront to freedom and the Constitution. While this issue is not paramount, it is the foundation of our free society and its doctrines.

wow

You havent lived until you stop at a light & watch the screws backing out of a guy's license plate while he's livin the dream. Out here in the weeds.....we Rock!!!
I'm getting out the 8 track.....see ya in a while Carrie.

If some one calls in and complains i d o not think thay give the info out but if the SO has the person complaining fill out a complaint form and they sign it and attach it to the report after the investigation is complete i do belive it is public record.

It's a pretty good rule of thumb that when dealing with a public offical one's affairs are public record.

One Point Four Million Dollars. That's how much the 2008 Seabreeze Jazz Festival brought to Walton County this year....according to the HAAS Center at the University of West Florida. It is unfortunate that several in the 30-A area have targeted music events and live music in general, as "noise" and not the fabric of art and culture that made South Walton what it is today. In a weakening local economy, an event like this does make a big impact. Just ask ResortQuest who has been tracking room nights and repeat business from out-of-town jazz fest attendees for the past 8 years. The event has introduced our area to thousands from all of the USA and Europe who either have never been to Florida or at least, this part of it. What's next.... no music at weddings on the beach or outside? The Event Ordinance is very vague and covers any gathering of people for a musical performance, regardless of size. Sounds like the script of the movie "Footloose"... but with "no music in the city limits" rather than dancing. How many events does it take moving out of Walton County to adjacent counties (with open arms) before "Joe the Plumber" understands and sees the real impact of the cultural and economic benefits? Have we become a county of true "fuddy-duddies"??

Does anyone remember what the name of that alliance is that is made up of developers along 30A? The alliance was formed to share resources and bring events to the 30A corridor. It included Rosemary Beach, Alys Beach, Seaside etc.

"What's next.... no music at weddings on the beach or outside?"



Actually I did hear about a wedding on the beach being shut down by the police last weekend at 5:00 in the evening! I don't know the details so maybe it was a permit thing, but I did hear that it was due to a neighbor's complaint.

"What's next.... no music at weddings on the beach or outside?"



Actually I did hear about a wedding on the beach being shut down by the police last weekend at 5:00 in the evening! I don't know the details so maybe it was a permit thing, but I did hear that it was due to a neighbor's complaint.

I have never heard anything loud enough to complain about in this area, even with some of the rentals down from us that were partying their butts off this summer into the middle of the night. The complaint craziness has now become obnoxious.