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Meeting: Technical Review Committee - Mar 15 2023
Department: Planning Department
Submitted by: Karen Owens
Staff Contact: Tim Brown, Senior Planner

TITLE/REQUESTED ACTION:
Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market #8861 - Request to approve by final order. Project number MAJ23-
000008 is being reviewed by Tim Brown. This is a major development order application submitted by
CPH, LLC on behalf of Walmart Stores East, LP, requesting approval to construct a 60,724 square
foot commercial building and associated infrastructure on 16.40 +/- acres with a future land use of
Commercial and a zoning district of General Commercial. The property is located in District 5 on the
north side of U.S. Highway 98 East, west of Serenoa Road and east of M.C. Davis Boulevard and is
identified by parcel numbers(s) 05-3S-18-16000-001-0040 and 05-3S-18-16000-001-0021.

ATTACHMENTS:
TRC_Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market #8861_031523
Single Page Site Plan - [URL]https://walton.civicweb.net/document/161136/Wal-Mart%20Neighborhood%20Market%20_8861%20-%20Request%20to.pdf?handle=C0DEBB9FF14940A3B3EAA05409FEE295[/URL]


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Meeting: Technical Review Committee - Mar 15 2023 
Department: Planning Department 
Submitted by: Karen Owens 
Staff Contact: Tim Brown, Senior Planner 
 
TITLE/REQUESTED ACTION: 
Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market #8861 - Request to approve by final order. Project number MAJ23- 
000008 is being reviewed by Tim Brown. This is a major development order application submitted by 
CPH, LLC on behalf of Walmart Stores East, LP, requesting approval to construct a 60,724 square 
foot commercial building and associated infrastructure on 16.40 +/- acres with a future land use of 
Commercial and a zoning district of General Commercial. The property is located in District 5 on the 
north side of U.S. Highway 98 East, west of Serenoa Road and east of M.C. Davis Boulevard and is 
identified by parcel numbers(s) 05-3S-18-16000-001-0040 and 05-3S-18-16000-001-0021. 
 
ATTACHMENTS: 
TRC_Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market #8861_031523 
Single Page Site Plan - <a href="https://walton.civicweb.net/document/161136/Wal-Mart%20Neighborhood%20Market%20_8861%20-%20Request%20to.pdf?handle=C0DEBB9FF14940A3B3EAA05409FEE295" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://walton.civicweb.net/documen...o.pdf?handle=C0DEBB9FF14940A3B3EAA05409FEE295</a> 
 
 
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Right in front of Arium Apartments at Dune Lakes Elementary.
Proposed store is 60,742 sf.
The average size of a Supercenter is 178,000 square feet.
For discount stores, 105,000 square feet is the average size.
Neighborhood stores have an average size of 42,000 square feet.

Wish we had higher standards than a massive parking lot on our scenic corridor.

Right in front of Arium Apartments at Dune Lakes Elementary. 
Proposed store is 60,742 sf. 
The average size of a Supercenter is 178,000 square feet. 
For discount stores, 105,000 square feet is the average size. 
Neighborhood stores have an average size of 42,000 square feet. 
 
Wish we had higher standards than a massive parking lot on our scenic corridor.

Kurt

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conch

Beach Lover

"THEY PAVED PARADISE AND PUT UP A PARKING LOT"

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&quot;THEY PAVED PARADISE AND PUT UP A PARKING LOT&quot; 
 

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Matt J

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[QUOTE="conch, post: 963020, member: 15355"]
"THEY PAVED PARADISE AND PUT UP A PARKING LOT"

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Would the county have to pay royalties if we updated the motto?

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="conch">&quot;THEY PAVED PARADISE AND PUT UP A PARKING LOT&quot; 
 

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Would the county have to pay royalties if we updated the motto?

SUP Boarder

Disappointing.  Guess we're filling the gap with chain retail between Destin and PCB. :cuss:

Disappointing.  Guess we&#039;re filling the gap with chain retail between Destin and PCB. :cuss:

Teresa

SoWal Guide

Isn't one Small Walmart enough for a small town that isn't even an official town? Why not The Fresh Market or something else? Ugh.

Isn&#039;t one Small Walmart enough for a small town that isn&#039;t even an official town? Why not The Fresh Market or something else? Ugh.

[QUOTE="Teresa, post: 963042, member: 170"]
Isn't one Small Walmart enough for a small town that isn't even an official town? Why not The Fresh Market or something else? Ugh.
[/QUOTE]

Fresh Market can't make it work in a rural area.

There's a lot more commercial coming.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Teresa">Isn&#039;t one Small Walmart enough for a small town that isn&#039;t even an official town? Why not The Fresh Market or something else? Ugh.</blockquote> 
Fresh Market can&#039;t make it work in a rural area. 
 
There&#039;s a lot more commercial coming.

For many years after I moved here twenty four years ago I thought most of the corridor along 98 east of 331 was part
of the Pt Washington state forest. Then wooded parcels started being cleared and developed.
Fast forward to today and more woods are being cleared for more building, and more S.A.C.C.s { Standard American Commercial Crap"} is being built. It will not be long before this stretch of road looks like 98 from Sandestin to Destin. Take a look at 331 from I10 south, its going down the same road. {pun intended} with rampant S.A.C.C.s being erected.
I am not opposed to development, as I know it provides jobs, and makes the economy grow. I just wish we could grow
in a more sustainable way, and work to preserve more of the unique aspects that make our local biosphere so special,
and draw so many people here.

For many years after I moved here twenty four years ago I thought most of the corridor along 98 east of 331 was part 
of the Pt Washington state forest. Then wooded parcels started being cleared and developed. 
Fast forward to today and more woods are being cleared for more building, and more S.A.C.C.s { Standard American Commercial Crap&quot;} is being built. It will not be long before this stretch of road looks like 98 from Sandestin to Destin. Take a look at 331 from I10 south, its going down the same road. {pun intended} with rampant S.A.C.C.s being erected. 
I am not opposed to development, as I know it provides jobs, and makes the economy grow. I just wish we could grow 
in a more sustainable way, and work to preserve more of the unique aspects that make our local biosphere so special, 
and draw so many people here.

Professor

Remember when you moved here for the simplicity of it all? Now everyone wants a Whole Foods, Costco, Nordstroms, etc. Remember when the appeal of this place was partly due to the fact that we don't have those things?

Remember when you moved here for the simplicity of it all? Now everyone wants a Whole Foods, Costco, Nordstroms, etc. Remember when the appeal of this place was partly due to the fact that we don&#039;t have those things?

[QUOTE="Matt J, post: 963353, member: 4760"]
Remember when you moved here for the simplicity of it all? Now everyone wants a Whole Foods, Costco, Nordstroms, etc. Remember when the appeal of this place was partly due to the fact that we don't have those things?
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Yes! Except I wanted some grocery stores and now we have them. I didn't miss Walmart or fast food one bit.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Matt J">Remember when you moved here for the simplicity of it all? Now everyone wants a Whole Foods, Costco, Nordstroms, etc. Remember when the appeal of this place was partly due to the fact that we don&#039;t have those things?</blockquote>Yes! Except I wanted some grocery stores and now we have them. I didn&#039;t miss Walmart or fast food one bit.

jodiFL

This one is just going to be a neighborhood market......wait till the big one is built in Freeport.

[QUOTE="jodiFL, post: 963360, member: 5343"]
This one is just going to be a neighborhood market......wait till the big one is built in Freeport.
[/QUOTE]

You ain't lying! Any idea where it's going?

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="jodiFL">This one is just going to be a neighborhood market......wait till the big one is built in Freeport.</blockquote> 
You ain&#039;t lying! Any idea where it&#039;s going?

This Walmart represents the painful reminder that SoWal is becoming the BIG CITY we moved to get away from :dunno:

PoppaJ

SoWal Insider

[QUOTE="SUP Boarder, post: 963390, member: 35791"]
This Walmart represents the painful reminder that SoWal is becoming the BIG CITY we moved to get away from :dunno:
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This is a bit comical given Walmart’s success was built on their strategy of building their stores in SMALL TOWNS something no other major retailer was doing.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="SUP Boarder">This Walmart represents the painful reminder that SoWal is becoming the BIG CITY we moved to get away from :dunno:</blockquote>This is a bit comical given Walmart’s success was built on their strategy of building their stores in SMALL TOWNS something no other major retailer was doing.

Jane

[QUOTE="SUP Boarder, post: 963390, member: 35791"]
This Walmart represents the painful reminder that SoWal is becoming the BIG CITY we moved to get away from :dunno:
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That was Publix.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="SUP Boarder">This Walmart represents the painful reminder that SoWal is becoming the BIG CITY we moved to get away from :dunno:</blockquote>That was Publix.

[QUOTE="Matt J, post: 963366, member: 4760"]
You ain't lying! Any idea where it's going?
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East of 331 on 20 is what I heard.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Matt J">You ain&#039;t lying! Any idea where it&#039;s going?</blockquote>East of 331 on 20 is what I heard.

leeboy

[QUOTE="jodiFL, post: 963523, member: 5343"]
East of 331 on 20 is what I heard.
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I can't believe they would pass up 331 tourist traffic.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="jodiFL">East of 331 on 20 is what I heard.</blockquote>I can&#039;t believe they would pass up 331 tourist traffic.

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