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[b]Re: Noise Ordinance[/b]

As I recall it was pointed out that there was not a problem in the north end and folks didn't want to place restrictions on existing businesses, farming equipment being mentioned.

I would be interested to hear if it has been enforced much in SoWal. Construction noise was the biggest complaint. But I think in most cases it is tolerated and contractors try to observe reasonable hours. Although it's hard to convince someone on vacation that 7 AM is a reasonable time to start hammering next door, especially where lots are small.

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As I recall it was pointed out that there was not a problem in the north end and folks didn&#039;t want to place restrictions on existing businesses, farming equipment being mentioned. 
 
I would be interested to hear if it has been enforced much in SoWal. Construction noise was the biggest complaint. But I think in most cases it is tolerated and contractors try to observe reasonable hours. Although it&#039;s hard to convince someone on vacation that 7 AM is a reasonable time to start hammering next door, especially where lots are small.

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert

[b]Re: Noise Ordinance[/b]

Why did we need one here? Was it a proactive decision? :idontno:

The loudest things I ever hear in Sowal are the military planes, motorcycles, and the #^$*#*%@ dog next door. [url=http://www.squidoo.com/wymondham-college][img]http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animals/animal0019.gif[/img][/url]

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Why did we need one here? Was it a proactive decision? :idontno: 
 
The loudest things I ever hear in Sowal are the military planes, motorcycles, and the #^$*#*%@ dog next door. <a href="http://www.squidoo.com/wymondham-college" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><img src="http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animals/animal0019.gif" alt="" /></a>

wrobert

Beach Fanatic

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[quote="scooterbug44, post: 368499"]Why did we need one here? Was it a proactive decision? :idontno:

The loudest things I ever hear in Sowal are the military planes, motorcycles, and the #^$*#*%@ dog next door. [URL="http://www.squidoo.com/wymondham-college"][IMG]http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animals/animal0019.gif[/IMG][/URL][/quote]

I thought it was the bars in Grayton and 331 causing the problem.  The  SO needed a law other than existing state law to enforce.  Several were certified in the use of noise meters, then transferred north, and ce does not work on the weekends.

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="scooterbug44">Why did we need one here? Was it a proactive decision? :idontno: 
 
The loudest things I ever hear in Sowal are the military planes, motorcycles, and the #^$*#*%@ dog next door. <a href="http://www.squidoo.com/wymondham-college" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><img src="http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animals/animal0019.gif" alt="" /></a></blockquote> 
I thought it was the bars in Grayton and 331 causing the problem. The SO needed a law other than existing state law to enforce. Several were certified in the use of noise meters, then transferred north, and ce does not work on the weekends.

Beach Runner

beats on hood

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[quote="scooterbug44, post: 368499"]The loudest things I ever hear in Sowal are the military planes, motorcycles, and the #^$*#*%@ dog next door. [/QUOTE]
You obviously haven't heard my daughter's sound system. Riding in that car is like being in one of those massage chairs that vibrate.:floor:

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="scooterbug44">The loudest things I ever hear in Sowal are the military planes, motorcycles, and the #^$*#*%@ dog next door.</blockquote>You obviously haven&#039;t heard my daughter&#039;s sound system. Riding in that car is like being in one of those massage chairs that vibrate.:floor:

SoWal Insider

[b]Re: Noise Ordinance[/b]

the last 2 homes I've rented at the beach have been next to new construction......no prior warning was given by the rental agencies....no repeat business will be returned.  one good benefit however was that I spent more time actually on the beach.

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the last 2 homes I&#039;ve rented at the beach have been next to new construction......no prior warning was given by the rental agencies....no repeat business will be returned. one good benefit however was that I spent more time actually on the beach.

Jdarg

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[quote="Bob, post: 368554"]the last 2 homes I've rented at the beach have been next to new construction......no prior warning was given by the rental agencies....no repeat business will be returned.  one good benefit however was that I spent more time actually on the beach.[/quote]

Uh, Bob.  I guess you have figured out that your next trip to SoWal probably won't be quiet either, since you will be hanging with the wenches.:wave:

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Bob">the last 2 homes I&#039;ve rented at the beach have been next to new construction......no prior warning was given by the rental agencies....no repeat business will be returned. one good benefit however was that I spent more time actually on the beach.</blockquote> 
Uh, Bob. I guess you have figured out that your next trip to SoWal probably won&#039;t be quiet either, since you will be hanging with the wenches.:wave:

Matt J

SWGB

[b]Re: Noise Ordinance[/b]

[quote="Bob, post: 368554"]the last 2 homes I've rented at the beach have been next to new construction......no prior warning was given by the rental agencies....no repeat business will be returned. one good benefit however was that I spent more time actually on the beach.[/quote]
 
You're in luck!  Virtually no construction going on right now!

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Bob">the last 2 homes I&#039;ve rented at the beach have been next to new construction......no prior warning was given by the rental agencies....no repeat business will be returned. one good benefit however was that I spent more time actually on the beach.</blockquote> 
You&#039;re in luck! Virtually no construction going on right now!

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[quote="sowalgayboi, post: 368575"]You're in luck! Virtually no construction going on right now![/quote]
 
You obviously haven't been looking at my photos.

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="sowalgayboi">You&#039;re in luck! Virtually no construction going on right now!</blockquote> 
You obviously haven&#039;t been looking at my photos.

HYDROSTAN

Beach Lover

[b]Re: Noise Ordinance[/b]

[quote="WaltonGOP, post: 368542"]I thought it was the bars in Grayton and 331 causing the problem. The SO needed a law other than existing state law to enforce. Several were certified in the use of noise meters, then transferred north, and ce does not work on the weekends.[/quote]
I remember a year or so ago Code Enforcement was in the Blue Bar with noise meters, they looked like a bad ghostbusters movie. 
Mamma let the boys play that rock-n-roll.

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="WaltonGOP">I thought it was the bars in Grayton and 331 causing the problem. The SO needed a law other than existing state law to enforce. Several were certified in the use of noise meters, then transferred north, and ce does not work on the weekends.</blockquote>I remember a year or so ago Code Enforcement was in the Blue Bar with noise meters, they looked like a bad ghostbusters movie. 
Mamma let the boys play that rock-n-roll.

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[quote="HYDROSTAN, post: 368652"]I remember a year or so ago Code Enforcement was in the Blue Bar with noise meters, they looked like a bad ghostbusters movie. 
Mamma let the boys play that rock-n-roll.[/quote]
 
That makes no sense.  The ordinance covers noise at the property line of the complaintant.  What noise is happening at the source is not relevant.  It is what noise leaves your property and can be heard at the person who complains property.

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="HYDROSTAN">I remember a year or so ago Code Enforcement was in the Blue Bar with noise meters, they looked like a bad ghostbusters movie. 
Mamma let the boys play that rock-n-roll.</blockquote> 
That makes no sense. The ordinance covers noise at the property line of the complaintant. What noise is happening at the source is not relevant. It is what noise leaves your property and can be heard at the person who complains property.

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[quote="WaltonGOP, post: 368657"]That makes no sense. The ordinance covers noise at the property line of the complaintant. What noise is happening at the source is not relevant. It is what noise leaves your property and can be heard at the person who complains property.[/quote]
I was there, seen it. Correct it makes no sense. One more example of the inconsistent way code enforcement conducts business.

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="WaltonGOP">That makes no sense. The ordinance covers noise at the property line of the complaintant. What noise is happening at the source is not relevant. It is what noise leaves your property and can be heard at the person who complains property.</blockquote>I was there, seen it. Correct it makes no sense. One more example of the inconsistent way code enforcement conducts business.

chrisv

[b]Re: Noise Ordinance[/b]

[quote="HYDROSTAN, post: 368652"]I remember a year or so ago Code Enforcement was in the Blue Bar with noise meters, they looked like a bad ghostbusters movie. 
Mamma let the boys play that rock-n-roll.[/quote]

[quote="WaltonGOP, post: 368657"]That makes no sense.  The ordinance covers noise at the property line of the complaintant.  What noise is happening at the source is not relevant.  It is what noise leaves your property and can be heard at the person who complains property.[/quote]

They were probably just in there playing with their new toys.  Seeing just how high the levels went, you know, up to 11....

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="HYDROSTAN">I remember a year or so ago Code Enforcement was in the Blue Bar with noise meters, they looked like a bad ghostbusters movie. 
Mamma let the boys play that rock-n-roll.</blockquote> 
<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="WaltonGOP">That makes no sense. The ordinance covers noise at the property line of the complaintant. What noise is happening at the source is not relevant. It is what noise leaves your property and can be heard at the person who complains property.</blockquote> 
They were probably just in there playing with their new toys. Seeing just how high the levels went, you know, up to 11....

Smiling JOe

[b]Re: Noise Ordinance[/b]

From WalCo Code of Ordinances:
[SIZE=3]"Sec. 9-146. Legislative findings; declaration of necessity.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3](E)[/SIZE]   Neighborhood exposure to noise can seriously deteriorate the quality of life for people, and can have other significant negative impacts. Exposure to noise at levels such as might be measured at residences near bars and commercial establishments has been shown to cause detrimental physiological, biochemical and psychological impacts. [B]Exposure to loud noise has been shown to result in uncontrollable stress which can result in alterations in mood as well as hormonal and nervous system changes in healthy subjects.[/B] A lack of control over noise results in a variety of neurobiological and behavioral alterations, a phenomenon known as "learned helplessness." It has been demonstrated that blood pressure is reproducibly elevated in response to intermittent loud noise. The noxious stimulus of  noise has long been used as a laboratory model for producing stress because it results in the same biological and physiological responses as other stressors. Noise has been clearly implicated in sleep disturbance, resulting in a cascade of negative effects. [B]The stress, tension and fatigue associated with long-term exposure to noise has destroyed marriages, cost people their jobs and forced other people to sell their houses at significant losses.[/B] Long term exposure to noise has been linked to anti-social behaviors."


BTW, the only specific places which I can find addressed in the Walton County Code of Ordinances, regarding noise are GRAYTON BEACH, CHAPARREL ESTATES, HIDDEN HARBORS AND HOLIDAY SHORES.

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From WalCo Code of Ordinances: 
&quot;Sec. 9-146. Legislative findings; declaration of necessity. 
(E) Neighborhood exposure to noise can seriously deteriorate the quality of life for people, and can have other significant negative impacts. Exposure to noise at levels such as might be measured at residences near bars and commercial establishments has been shown to cause detrimental physiological, biochemical and psychological impacts. Exposure to loud noise has been shown to result in uncontrollable stress which can result in alterations in mood as well as hormonal and nervous system changes in healthy subjects. A lack of control over noise results in a variety of neurobiological and behavioral alterations, a phenomenon known as &quot;learned helplessness.&quot; It has been demonstrated that blood pressure is reproducibly elevated in response to intermittent loud noise. The noxious stimulus of noise has long been used as a laboratory model for producing stress because it results in the same biological and physiological responses as other stressors. Noise has been clearly implicated in sleep disturbance, resulting in a cascade of negative effects. The stress, tension and fatigue associated with long-term exposure to noise has destroyed marriages, cost people their jobs and forced other people to sell their houses at significant losses. Long term exposure to noise has been linked to anti-social behaviors.&quot; 
 
 
BTW, the only specific places which I can find addressed in the Walton County Code of Ordinances, regarding noise are GRAYTON BEACH, CHAPARREL ESTATES, HIDDEN HARBORS AND HOLIDAY SHORES.

Lane Rees

[b]Re: Noise Ordinance[/b]

The specific ordinance was passed in 2003 .. it is Ordinance 2003-09 and under Section 4 is "applicability."  It basically states this ordinance applies to the unincorporated areas south of the Choctawhatchee Bay and Intercoastal Waterway excluding Grayton Beach.

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The specific ordinance was passed in 2003 .. it is Ordinance 2003-09 and under Section 4 is &quot;applicability.&quot; It basically states this ordinance applies to the unincorporated areas south of the Choctawhatchee Bay and Intercoastal Waterway excluding Grayton Beach.

jack S

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It isn't the bars, its the construction. The sound of South Walton could be the brown thrasher, or the mockingbird, or even the morning dove, but that ain't it! South Waltons sound is the backup beeper!

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It isn&#039;t the bars, its the construction. The sound of South Walton could be the brown thrasher, or the mockingbird, or even the morning dove, but that ain&#039;t it! South Waltons sound is the backup beeper!

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[quote="Smiling JOe, post: 368713"]has been shown to cause detrimental physiological, biochemical and psychological impacts. [B]Exposure to loud noise has been shown to result in uncontrollable stress which can result in alterations in mood as well as hormonal and nervous system changes in healthy subjects.[/B] A lack of control over noise . Noise has been clearly implicated in sleep disturbance, resulting in a cascade of negative effects. [B]The stress, tension and fatigue associated with long-term exposure to noise has destroyed marriages, cost people their jobs and forced other people to sell their houses at significant losses.[/B] Long term exposure to noise has been linked to anti-social behaviors."
 
.[/quote]
 
Boy what people must think of us if they just read our codes.

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Smiling JOe">has been shown to cause detrimental physiological, biochemical and psychological impacts. Exposure to loud noise has been shown to result in uncontrollable stress which can result in alterations in mood as well as hormonal and nervous system changes in healthy subjects. A lack of control over noise . Noise has been clearly implicated in sleep disturbance, resulting in a cascade of negative effects. The stress, tension and fatigue associated with long-term exposure to noise has destroyed marriages, cost people their jobs and forced other people to sell their houses at significant losses. Long term exposure to noise has been linked to anti-social behaviors.&quot; 
 
.</blockquote> 
Boy what people must think of us if they just read our codes.

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[quote="jack S, post: 368844"]It isn't the bars, its the construction. The sound of South Walton could be the brown thrasher, or the mockingbird, or even the morning dove, but that ain't it! South Waltons sound is the backup beeper![/quote]
 
 
At the meeting for this, there was a lady living in BM complaining about the noise at one of those big condo things that they build.  But since it being passed, all I have ever heard about are complaints about bar noise, late at night.  Not to long ago someone wrote a letter to the editor about the Blue Bar, and that place on 30-A that sold the cracker rolled sandwiches a few years back was getting a lot of complaints.  But no one seemed to be able to do anything, the SO referred them to CE which was not available on the weekends.  Oh yea and the JAzz Festival at Gulf Place was generating complaints cause the wind blew the noise back into the subdivision behind them.

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="jack S">It isn&#039;t the bars, its the construction. The sound of South Walton could be the brown thrasher, or the mockingbird, or even the morning dove, but that ain&#039;t it! South Waltons sound is the backup beeper!</blockquote> 
 
At the meeting for this, there was a lady living in BM complaining about the noise at one of those big condo things that they build. But since it being passed, all I have ever heard about are complaints about bar noise, late at night. Not to long ago someone wrote a letter to the editor about the Blue Bar, and that place on 30-A that sold the cracker rolled sandwiches a few years back was getting a lot of complaints. But no one seemed to be able to do anything, the SO referred them to CE which was not available on the weekends. Oh yea and the JAzz Festival at Gulf Place was generating complaints cause the wind blew the noise back into the subdivision behind them.

[b]Re: Noise Ordinance[/b]

While I am certainly not a fan of the 7 am Saturday nail gun either, I think people need to get a reality check as to what NOISE really is. Some of the stuff I hear people biatching about is hilarious!

Military flight that shakes the house: noise and your tax dollars at work :biggrin:

Housekeepers vacuuming a neighboring condo too loudly: you needing a reality check! :blink:

Music at a local restaurant/bar that predates your house/condo: the beach ambiance you paid $$ for! :wave:

They sell earplugs at Tom Thumb and Publix! I use them on airline flights to muffle my fellow passengers' whining. It also muffles their kids too ;-).

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While I am certainly not a fan of the 7 am Saturday nail gun either, I think people need to get a reality check as to what NOISE really is. Some of the stuff I hear people biatching about is hilarious! 
 
Military flight that shakes the house: noise and your tax dollars at work 😀 
 
Housekeepers vacuuming a neighboring condo too loudly: you needing a reality check! :blink: 
 
Music at a local restaurant/bar that predates your house/condo: the beach ambiance you paid $$ for! :wave: 
 
They sell earplugs at Tom Thumb and Publix! I use them on airline flights to muffle my fellow passengers&#039; whining. It also muffles their kids too ;-).

elgordoboy

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[quote="scooterbug44, post: 368880"]While I am certainly not a fan of the 7 am Saturday nail gun either, I think people need to get a reality check as to what NOISE really is. Some of the stuff I hear people biatching about is hilarious!
 
Military flight that shakes the house: noise and your tax dollars at work :biggrin:
 
Housekeepers vacuuming a neighboring condo too loudly: you needing a reality check! :blink:
 
Music at a local restaurant/bar that predates your house/condo: the beach ambiance you paid $$ for! :wave:
 
They sell earplugs at Tom Thumb and Publix! I use them on airline flights to muffle my fellow passengers' whining. It also muffles their kids too ;-).[/quote]
Do the parents get mad when you stuff the plugs in the kiddies little mouths?

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="scooterbug44">While I am certainly not a fan of the 7 am Saturday nail gun either, I think people need to get a reality check as to what NOISE really is. Some of the stuff I hear people biatching about is hilarious! 
 
Military flight that shakes the house: noise and your tax dollars at work 😀 
 
Housekeepers vacuuming a neighboring condo too loudly: you needing a reality check! :blink: 
 
Music at a local restaurant/bar that predates your house/condo: the beach ambiance you paid $$ for! :wave: 
 
They sell earplugs at Tom Thumb and Publix! I use them on airline flights to muffle my fellow passengers&#039; whining. It also muffles their kids too ;-).</blockquote>Do the parents get mad when you stuff the plugs in the kiddies little mouths?

I was at Smiling Fish this week meeting a lady who had been very active for a noise ordinance in Walton County.  One was passed for South Walton but the northern commissioners did not support for the whole county.  What are your thoughts on how the one is doing for the south end of the county and should it be extended for all of the county?

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