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Support and Defend the Constitution

Beach Lover
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"I, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;​
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion;​
that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."​

I pass this e-mail to you for consideration. I did not write the words below; however, I believe what is said.
And if you are watching what is going all around you, then you know what I mean. If this email doesn't make any sense to you, then you are in deep trouble. This would mean you are not aware of what is going on all around you.
I have noted that many elected officials, both Democrats and Republicans, called upon America to unite behind President Obama.
Well, I want to make it clear to all who will listen that I AM NOT uniting behind President Obama! I will respect the Office which he holds, and I will acknowledge his abilities as an orator and word smith and pray for him, BUT that is it. I have started to work hard to make sure that he is a one-term President!
Why am I doing this? Because:
I do not share President Obama's vision or Value System for America;
I do not share his Abortion beliefs;
I do not share his radical Marxist's concept of re-distributing wealth;
I do not share his stated views on raising taxes on those who make
$150,000+ (the ceiling has been changed three times since August);
I do not share his view that America is Arrogant;
I do not share his view that America is not a Christian Nation; (THIS JUST SHOWS HE CERTAINLY ISN?T UP ON HIS AMERICAN HISTORY!)
I do not share his view that the military should be reduced by 25%;
I do not share his view of amnesty and giving more to illegals than
American Citizens who need help; (NO WAY, HOSEA!)
I do not share his views on homosexuality and his definition of marriage;
I do not share his views that Radical Islam is our friend and Israel
is our enemy who should give up any land; (GIMME A BREAK!) ;
I do not share his spiritual beliefs (at least the ones he has made public);
I do not share his beliefs on how to re-work the healthcare system in America;
I do not share his Strategic views of the Middle East, and certainly do
not share his plan to sit down with terrorist regimes such as Iran.

Bottom line, my America is vastly different from President Obama's, and I have a
higher obligation to my Country and my God to do what is Right!
For eight (8) years, the Liberals in our Society, led by numerous
entertainers who would have no platform and no real credibility but for
their celebrity status, have attacked President Bush, his family, and his spiritual beliefs!
They have not moved toward the center in their beliefs and their
philosophies, and they never came together nor compromised their
personal beliefs for the betterment of our Country! They have
portrayed my America as a land where everything is tolerated except being intolerant!
They have been a vocal and irreverent minority for years; they have
mocked and attacked the very core values so important to the founding and
growth of our Country!
They have made every effort to remove the name of God or Jesus Christ
from our Society!
They have challenged capital punishment, the right to bear firearms,
and the most basic principles of our criminal code; they have attacked
one of the most fundamental of all Freedoms, the right of free
speech!
And they forgot what this country was built on Judeo-Christian
principles! They fail to realize when they took "God out of
everything" this country went on a downhill spiral fast and they still believe this County is Unite behind President Obama? Never!
I refuse to retreat one more inch in favor of those whom I believe are the embodiment of Evil!

President Bush made mistakes during his Presidency, (EVERY PRESIDENT DOES) however;
I believe that he weighed his decisions in light of the long
established Judeo-Christian principles of our Founding Fathers!!!
Majority rules in America, and I will honor the concept; however, I
will fight with all of my power to be a voice in opposition to President Obama and "his goals for America ".
Because I am going to be a thorn in the side of those who, if left unchecked,
will destroy our Country!! Any more compromise is more defeat! I pray
that now Obama is President and has shown his true colors, everyone
concerned will wake up the many that have sat on the sidelines and
allowed the Socialist-Marxist anti-God crowd to slowly change so much of
what has been good in America!
"Error of Opinion may be tolerated where Reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson
"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
[FONT=&quot]We are about to lose the freedom we have cherished for so long unless YOU AND I
..... WAKE UP NOW! Are you hearing what I am saying? WAKE UP! [/FONT]

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Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#53
Our founding fathers emphasized our freedoms coming from God - not from the government. Our country was based on Judeo-Christian principles and our system of government was outlined in our Constitution. Americans have moved away from God and their Christian principles, so we are to blame for our leaders not following and upholding our Constitution. It is not too late to return to what made our country great, it will just take time. Do not give up - anything worth having is worth working for. God Bless American AGAIN ...... please.
good first post...you just described the government in iran
Beach LoverAuthor
#54
Our founding fathers emphasized our freedoms coming from God - not from the government. Our country was based on Judeo-Christian principles and our system of government was outlined in our Constitution. Americans have moved away from God and their Christian principles, so we are to blame for our leaders not following and upholding our Constitution. It is not too late to return to what made our country great, it will just take time. Do not give up - anything worth having is worth working for. God Bless American AGAIN ...... please.

Thanks, I like that. God Bless America!!!!!!!!!
LuciferSam avatar
Banned
#55
Thanks, I like that. God Bless America!!!!!!!!!

pssst! your colors are running!
Rita avatar
margarita brocolia
#56
Even when I disagreed with Bush I never circulated emails as I thought it was not productive and is usually very very one sided.

Regarding tone of email. I say it again, the tone of the email, as well as your post, are raging with anger and insults.

I just don't see it as productive.

There are others on this forum - for example - who can discuss opposing views without such tone. Oh but perhaps you are trolling. I get it - I bit. LOL on me! :rolling:

G
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There are plenty on this board who offer very good information from all sides - but this is a Sybil thread that is purely inflammatory!
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Beach ho - you are entitled to your opinion.

I am entitled to mine, which is why I get to DISAGREE with your entire post.

P.S. Jesus says if you all spent as much time following his teachings as you did arguing about Bible translations and claiming him for your political party/sports team the world would be MUCH better off. :wave:
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What?! You don't think Jesus is a Yankees fan?!..

You are a sad piece of humanity!
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and you, my multi-personality friend, are a flamin' troll ....

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Beach LoverAuthor
#57
pssst! your colors are running!

maybe your yellow color is running, but the good old RED, WHITE and BLUE will never run.
LuciferSam avatar
Banned
#58
maybe your yellow color is running, but the good old RED, WHITE and BLUE will never run.

Really?? Your stars are indistinguishable from your bars.
Beach LoverAuthor
#59
Really?? Your stars are indistinguishable from your bars.

What Bars!
hnooe avatar
Beach Fanatic
#60
This thread is freakin amusing to me....I now fully see what the Republican Party strategy and platform will be for 2012...hate and denial.
Beach Comber
#61
good first post...you just described the government in iran

Explain to me when the citizens of Iran ever had the freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom to bear firearms (or to even possess weapons for their own defense), freedom to worship any religion of their choosing. Whatever freedoms the Iranian citizens have are determined by a group of self-appointed religious (?) clerics who control the government. The latest "Free" election in Iran and the resulting slaughter of its citizens should be a warning of what could happen when a government is "over" the people instead of being a representation of the will of the people.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#62
Explain to me when the citizens of Iran ever had the freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom to bear firearms (or to even possess weapons for their own defense), freedom to worship any religion of their choosing. Whatever freedoms the Iranian citizens have are determined by a group of self-appointed religious (?) clerics who control the government. The latest "Free" election in Iran and the resulting slaughter of its citizens should be a warning of what could happen when a government is "over" the people instead of being a representation of the will of the people.
it's a theocracy posing as a democracy

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Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#63
Beach ho - you are entitled to your opinion.

I am entitled to mine, which is why I get to DISAGREE with your entire post.

P.S. Jesus says if you all spent as much time following his teachings as you did arguing about Bible translations and claiming him for your political party/sports team the world would be MUCH better off. :wave:

Wake up, we are being lured into a trap designed some 230 years ago! Wasn't the Constitution authored by a bunch of *Freemasons*, who, we all know, were/are a front for the *Illuminati*, who had direct roots from the *Knights Templar*? Can't you see that the very same people who composed the document are one and the same as those who put the evil eye on our currency and want to tatoo us all with a barcode that will be scanned as we enter a FEMA death camp in rural Mississippi?

We are being divided! Skull and Bones/Freemasons/Founding Fathers...they are distracting us and encouraging dissent so as to make it easy to enslave us! Open your eyes! :leaving:

Unfreakinbelievable is the best word to describe this thread. In fact, I usually ignore these tirades, but to all the posters... go back and read the entire thing and tell me I am wrong...y'all sound like a bunch of playground name callers!

I quoted the above posts, because they ring true to me. The Republican Party I used to belong to is gone...although I am hoping the broad minded, useful members are underground waiting to reclaim what used to be a party of sound ideas for this country. We MUST have at least a two party system in this country. The Republican Party as I see it, is pushing out more members than they are bringing in...unless they feel they are waking up the narrow minded. In that case, we do need a third party and fast.

BTW...I don't buy all that scary sheet. Please leave Jesus out of this, he is embarrassed enough as it is. I suggest a change in tactics.

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Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#64
Miss Kitty: I think you nailed it: The Republican party has simply not been able to show that their policies work (see Iraq war, economy). Hence, in order to gain votes, they have had to cater to the narrow-minded, and, IMO, this fear-mongering is a concerted effort to demonize everything progressive. I really believe in the two party system. With a strong third party, you run the chances of a huge "swing" vote that could undermine the concept of majority rule. I wish the Republican Party would bring something thoughtful and intelligent to the debate, but from the looks of this thread, in the immortal words of Tim the Tool Guy, "I don't think so".
Beach Fanatic
#65
I agree. The country needs the two party system.

What I don't understand is the inability of the Republicans to form a cohesive plan without all the fearmongering...so much of it seems to be to win over the fringe of the party--because I know that many of the leaders in the party don't really believe all this "off the wall stuff" (many of them, like Newt Gingrich voted for the very thing he shouts about now, when he had a vote)...

so why are they trying to win over the fringe of the party? At the very least, that element is already there...and, if not, why would any respectable Republican want them if they were not? What does all the shouting and fearing add to the equation?

And, hating and fearing government is just a puzzle to me: do the people who fear government takeover refuse to have the fire department come when their house is on fire; refuse the help from law enforcement when there is a crime committed against them; refuse to go to Court when they have been wronged? refuse to drive on highways and over bridges when they want to go somewhere? refuse help from the National Guard in case of a disaster? refuse to let their son or daughter join the military because it's part of the (fearful) government?

I imagine there might be a few who do. And, I can truly respect them. If one stands up for his or her principles, whatever they are, then I can admire that. But to shout about government takeover and still continue to benefit from government programs, is hypocritical at the least IMO.

None of it makes any sense to me. The world is a crazy enough place already--we do not need more crazy.
Gidget avatar
Beach Fanatic
#66
Unfreakinbelievable is the best word to describe this thread. In fact, I usually ignore these tirades, but to all the posters... go back and read the entire thing and tell me I am wrong...y'all sound like a bunch of playground name callers!

I quoted the above posts, because they ring true to me. The Republican Party I used to belong to is gone...although I am hoping the broad minded, useful members are underground waiting to reclaim what used to be a party of sound ideas for this country. We MUST have at least a two party system in this country. The Republican Party as I see it, is pushing out more members than they are bringing in...unless they feel they are waking up the narrow minded. In that case, we do need a third party and fast.

BTW...I don't buy all that scary sheet. Please leave Jesus out of this, he is embarrassed enough as it is. I suggest a change in tactics.

I agree with your post Miss Kitty. I have voted republican a few times in the past but now it seems like the only things I hear most rant about are abortion, gun control, homosexuals and prayer. That's the focus most often and woe to those who think even a step out of the box.

To quote sections of Beach Ho's email (see below) I would say what I said earlier. This was just posted to inflame and to bait others. Had I and others ignored it, it would have died. My attempt at the humorous Jesus bumper sticker was posted to try and take it to a lighter side, but don't think that happened. Also, the attempt to post the troll image but that was taken with bitterness as well.
I do not share his view that America is not a Christian Nation; (THIS JUST SHOWS HE CERTAINLY ISN’T UP ON HIS AMERICAN HISTORY!)

They have challenged capital punishment, the right to bear firearms,
and the most basic principles of our criminal code; they have attacked
one of the most fundamental of all Freedoms, the right of free
speech!And they forgot what this country was built on Judeo-Christian
principles! They fail to realize when they took "God out of
everything" this country went on a downhill spiral fast and they still believe this County is Unite behind President Obama? Never!
I refuse to retreat one more inch in favor of those whom I believe are the embodiment of Evil!

President Bush made mistakes during his Presidency, (EVERY PRESIDENT DOES) however;
I believe that he weighed his decisions in light of the long
established Judeo-Christian principles of our Founding Fathers!!!
Majority rules in America, and I will honor the concept; however, I
will fight with all of my power to be a voice in opposition to President Obama and "his goals for America ".
Because I am going to be a thorn in the side of those who, if left unchecked,
will destroy our Country!! Any more compromise is more defeat! I pray
that now Obama is President and has shown his true colors, everyone
concerned will wake up the many that have sat on the sidelines and
allowed the Socialist-Marxist anti-God crowd to slowly change so much of
what has been good in America!

​
Thanks for your sound post and also for Lake View Too's post. Very nicely done.

G
Gidget avatar
Beach Fanatic
#67
Your post also goodwitch - we must have been posting at same time. :)
LuciferSam avatar
Banned
#68
Unfreakinbelievable is the best word to describe this thread. In fact, I usually ignore these tirades, but to all the posters... go back and read the entire thing and tell me I am wrong...y'all sound like a bunch of playground name callers!

I quoted the above posts, because they ring true to me. The Republican Party I used to belong to is gone...although I am hoping the broad minded, useful members are underground waiting to reclaim what used to be a party of sound ideas for this country. We MUST have at least a two party system in this country. The Republican Party as I see it, is pushing out more members than they are bringing in...unless they feel they are waking up the narrow minded. In that case, we do need a third party and fast.

BTW...I don't buy all that scary sheet. Please leave Jesus out of this, he is embarrassed enough as it is. I suggest a change in tactics.

The undesirables in the Republican party today are a by product of the Reagan revolution. It started under Reagan/Bush, then it became a festering sore while Clinton was in office. With Dubya, it was payback time. Now they are panicking because their vision of America has been categorically rejected and will never thrive. I could conceivably vote Republican if it weren't for the fact that the party comes across as an insane asylum run by the inmates.
Beach Fanatic
#69
Ah, abortion. I wonder how some can say that they want ZERO government involvement regarding a doctor and a patient YET they want the government to 100% step in when it comes to a woman and her doctor. Even if the woman's life is in danger.

That is a puzzlement.

G


I think you left out an interested party: the child. Killing a child is wrong. If you and your doctor agreed to kill your husband, I think someone would have a problem.

That said, I am against a constitutional amendment prohibiting abortion. I do think the congress should pass a law removing this from Supreme Court jurisdiction as it is properly a state matter. States should be allowed to handle this as their people wish.
Beach Fanatic
#70
I agree. The country needs the two party system.

What I don't understand is the inability of the Republicans to form a cohesive plan without all the fearmongering...so much of it seems to be to win over the fringe of the party--because I know that many of the leaders in the party don't really believe all this "off the wall stuff" (many of them, like Newt Gingrich voted for the very thing he shouts about now, when he had a vote)...

so why are they trying to win over the fringe of the party? At the very least, that element is already there...and, if not, why would any respectable Republican want them if they were not? What does all the shouting and fearing add to the equation?

And, hating and fearing government is just a puzzle to me: do the people who fear government takeover refuse to have the fire department come when their house is on fire; refuse the help from law enforcement when there is a crime committed against them; refuse to go to Court when they have been wronged? refuse to drive on highways and over bridges when they want to go somewhere? refuse help from the National Guard in case of a disaster? refuse to let their son or daughter join the military because it's part of the (fearful) government?

I imagine there might be a few who do. And, I can truly respect them. If one stands up for his or her principles, whatever they are, then I can admire that. But to shout about government takeover and still continue to benefit from government programs, is hypocritical at the least IMO.

None of it makes any sense to me. The world is a crazy enough place already--we do not need more crazy.



Government is the one thing we ALL SHOULD FEAR. Government is the one vehicle strong enough to unilaterally take away our freedoms. Of course government can do many good things, protect us from fires, etc. but it should always be treated as a necessary evil and handled like a dangerous snake: very carefully.

Our problem is that we did not get into this problem quickly and the fix will be equally as long.
Beach Fanatic
#71
The undesirables in the Republican party today are a by product of the Reagan revolution. It started under Reagan/Bush, then it became a festering sore while Clinton was in office. With Dubya, it was payback time. Now they are panicking because their vision of America has been categorically rejected and will never thrive. I could conceivably vote Republican if it weren't for the fact that the party comes across as an insane asylum run by the inmates.


What is your solution for these bad people? Is it the "final solution?"
Winnie avatar
Beach Fanatic
#72
The undesirables in the Republican party today are a by product of the Reagan revolution. I could conceivably vote Republican if it weren't for the fact that the party comes across as an insane asylum run by the inmates.


If you change Republican to Democrat in the above, I would agree with you. As it is, I have to vote with those I most agree with since there are none I completely agree with.

I just don't care much either way on any of the social issues. I have to vote on the fiscal and civil issues. For most of those, the Republican party represents my views.

I wish neither party had extremists or as LuciferSam calls them "undesirables," but both do and both are ruining it for many others.
hnooe avatar
Beach Fanatic
#73
The undesirables in the Republican party today are a by product of the Reagan revolution. It started under Reagan/Bush, then it became a festering sore while Clinton was in office. With Dubya, it was payback time. Now they are panicking because their vision of America has been categorically rejected and will never thrive. I could conceivably vote Republican if it weren't for the fact that the party comes across as an insane asylum run by the inmates.


No. I was there. It started with Nixon--pitting his "great silent majority" against the hippies and anti war youth in the 1960's. That was the beginning of "If your not with us you are anti American (against us).

Today, the teabagger, deathers, and birthers who are all mixed into the healthcare issues would like to liken themselves to these anti-war protesters in the 1960's, but they are not. They are simply now the older, whiney, out of power (very) base of a dying Republican Party--they are the Limbaugh/Palin wing, their loudest speakers.

The last vestiges of this once great party that once held the likes of Goldwater, Rockefeller, and to a limited degree, Reagan, are gone forever-what is left is a very fearful group clutching God, guns, and religion in a very scary world that has blacks and latinas in power, or coming into power.

Nixon and his advisors created the Pandoras box that we are still seeing today..

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Beach Fanatic
#74
No. I was there. It started with Nixon--pitting his "great silent majority" against the hippies and anti war youth in the 1960's. That was the beginning of "If your not with us you are anti American (against us).

Today, the teabagger, deathers, and birthers who are all mixed into the healthcare issues would like to liken themselves to these anti-war protesters in the 1960's, but they are not. They are simple the older, whiney, out of power (very) base of a dying Republican Party--they are the Limbaugh/Palin wing, their loudest speakers.

The last vestiges of this once great party that once held the likes of Goldwater, Rockefeller, and to a limited degree, Reagan, are gone forever-what is left is a very fearful group clutching God, guns, and religion in a very scary world that has blacks and latinas in power or coming into power.

Nixon and his advisors created the Pandoras box that we are still seeing today..


You are so far off base it is laughable.
1. A protester is a protester. Whether they are anti-war, anti-government healthcare, anti-taxes they are simply people who have grievances with the government and seek a means to redress them. This is neither right or left wing, it is freedom at work. You may not agree with them, but they have a right to say what they believe to be true.
2. Many Americans have a desire to return to the roots of our republic, to the principles that fueled the building of the greatest nation on earth. Freedom to bear arms, Freedom of religion and Freedom of Speech are the bedrock principles and must be protected.
3. No one cares what race someone is. It is their VIEWS that mean something. Obama is wrong because he is a tax and spend liberal, it has nothing to do with him being half-black.
4. This coutry is usually conservative and I believe it will return there.
Beach Comber
#75
We need more AMERICANS and fewer Democrats and Republicans in our government. We need to re-read our Constitution and return to its wise outline for the safety, growth and continued prosperity of our country. Our founding fathers knew the threat of a federal government being too powerful and that is why the 10th Amendment was so important. We should all encourage our state representatives to recognize each state's sovereignty and prevent the federal government from overstepping its bounds. The states have the power to tell the federal government what it can and cannot do - they just have to reclaim their sovereignty.

(By the way - fire departments, police departments, etc. are not the function of the federal government, but the state.)

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Gidget avatar
Beach Fanatic
#76
I think you left out an interested party: the child. Killing a child is wrong. If you and your doctor agreed to kill your husband, I think someone would have a problem.

That said, I am against a constitutional amendment prohibiting abortion. I do think the congress should pass a law removing this from Supreme Court jurisdiction as it is properly a state matter. States should be allowed to handle this as their people wish.

And the life of the mother? There is no black or white. That is why government should stay out of this. I am glad you are against a constitutional amendment though.

G

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