Support and Defend the Constitution

You have never lived, until you have almost died. For those of us who have fought for it, life, has a flavor the protected shall never know. Patriotism is trait, that not eveyone has. Those fortunate enough to experience it, are why you can sit at your computer and make the assinine assertions that you do. Our belief in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, even for you, is what makes the USA an ideologic goal for the world. Do you ever read of people trying to sneak over the border into russia, china, or venezuela? No. Our ideals, our constitution and our freedoms are sought by many. Our patriotic citizens, died, to give you the rights, that you so easily dismiss.

I just made a simple general statement about the pros and cons of patriotism. I didn't say anything specifically about the USA or any other country. The fact that you have made this a personal matter makes your motives very questionable.

You have never lived, until you have almost died. For those of us who have fought for it, life, has a flavor the protected shall never know. Patriotism is trait, that not eveyone has. Those fortunate enough to experience it, are why you can sit at your computer and make the assinine assertions that you do. Our belief in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, even for you, is what makes the USA an ideologic goal for the world. Do you ever read of people trying to sneak over the border into russia, china, or venezuela? No. Our ideals, our constitution and our freedoms are sought by many. Our patriotic citizens, died, to give you the rights, that you so easily dismiss.

Lucifer, see post #97 ;-)

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Yeah, me too.

Political threads (on the national level) don't come out so well here. They tend to be responded to by only the left wing/right wing sorts....the extremes. I guess that the middle and the majority of people get turned off.

I'd suggest to the board owner and moderators that the political forum get canceled. Paradise isn't a place to be discussing politics.

No one has to venture in here. I actually get some really good intelliget arguments from some people. Some of you have articulated my general feelings really well, and I've been enlightened more than once with people who have great positions on the issues and provide facts and links to their sources. Again, you have to trip thru the nonsense... enough said...

Yeah, me too.

Political threads (on the national level) don't come out so well here. They tend to be responded to by only the left wing/right wing sorts....the extremes. I guess that the middle and the majority of people get turned off.

I'd suggest to the board owner and moderators that the political forum get canceled. Paradise isn't a place to be discussing politics.

Yeah, me too.

Political threads (on the national level) don't come out so well here. They tend to be responded to by only the left wing/right wing sorts....the extremes. I guess that the middle and the majority of people get turned off.

I'd suggest to the board owner and moderators that the political forum get canceled. Paradise isn't a place to be discussing politics.

Not a fair post at all. :nono1:


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This great country will not return to the land of slaves owners, women not being allowed to vote, etc. Politically, as a country, we ying and yang , go back and forth--go forward progressively or backwards or just stay the same (as in 2001 to 2008).

The very great thing about America is that is does continually progress forward. Even the word Conservative has "progressed' since the 1800's, albeit very s l o w l y...

Bob, blackcreekpapa1. ...Welcome to Sowal blackcreekpappa1 Remember..You both are HUGE American patriots, with some differeing point of view! --bless you both!

{Hated to cut in but I only have 3 posts left on SoWal before my cyber life ends..carry on}

I too have just caught up with this epic thread.

Personally, I love the Politics Section because it offers both entertainment and impassioned discussion/debate.

This thread, I'm sure, was meant as entertainment. There have been outlandish statements written by both sides of this legendary internet hissyfit. Really, the only issue that bothers me about the political section on SoWal (this thread confirms my belief) is that so many people get away with name calling and incredibly gross mischaracterizations that only fuel the arrant bullsh*t that's flying around the airwaves.

Free Speech is just one of the many things that makes this country a shining beacon of hope for so many in this world. But I'm beginning to wonder about the merits of nameless free speech. That is, would all of you post what you post if your full name was behind your sometimes incredibly mean spirited, or just plain ignorant statements? Would Beach Ho say that our nation is truly a christian nation, when it plainly isn't, (and, please, for the love of [enter deity name of choice here], don't argue that we are a christian nation because most of the country is christian; that only gives white extremists an excuse to claim that America is a white nation because the majority of Americans are white.)

Now, I pick on Beach Ho, but there are similar statements across this board. So, I'm curious. How many of you have the cajones to put your name (and if you own a business, your business's name) behind your words? I'm certainly not an angel myself when it comes to the Poltics/Current Event threads, but my name is above everything I write. If people don't know who "Matt Christ" is, (and there are plenty, I'm sure) then they at least have something to start an internet search.

I'll get the ball rolling. My full name is Matthew Christ. I do not own a business. I am a lifelong resident of SoWal and graduated from Butler Elementary, Seaside Middle School, and South Walton High School. I wrote a column for the Walton Sun that dealt with politics about three-two years ago. Currently, I am a sophomore at the University of Florida where I write a weekly column for the Independent Florida Alligator, the largest student newspaper in the country. In fact, for almost every week for the past three years, I have written a column dealing with controversial national/local issues. Each column has had my name on it, and more than often a picture of my cheery little face. Some of my columns go on wire services and are printed in newspapers and posted on internet news sites across the country. My point? I make real sure that what I write each week is accurate and not too inciting (although to incite discussion, debate, and even sharply worded "signed" letters to the editor is part of the columnist's job description). Essentially, I ask myself if I'm alright knowing that the words I just wrote are representing my name. If not, I start hitting the delete key.

Now what about the names of most of the previous posters? It's entirely your right and freedom to write what you want, but do you have the courage and bravery to put your name behind your words/taunts/ignorance/arrogance/ libel? Are your beliefs firm enough that you'll stand by them in the living flesh? Will you put your dignity on the line?

Or will you just continue to coward behind a computer screen and a cute SoWal name? Will you go back to engaging in dialogue that's more childish then I what I remember as a middle schooler in the lunch line?

Come on big shots. If you don't, your words have little more meaning than those found on public bathroom stalls.

~Matthew Christ

Yeah, me too.

Political threads (on the national level) don't come out so well here. They tend to be responded to by only the left wing/right wing sorts....the extremes. I guess that the middle and the majority of people get turned off.

I'd suggest to the board owner and moderators that the political forum get canceled. Paradise isn't a place to be discussing politics.

I too have just caught up with this epic thread.

Personally, I love the Politics Section because it offers both entertainment and impassioned discussion/debate.

This thread, I'm sure, was meant as entertainment. There have been outlandish statements written by both sides of this legendary internet hissyfit. Really, the only issue that bothers me about the political section on SoWal (this thread confirms my belief) is that so many people get away with name calling and incredibly gross mischaracterizations that only fuel the arrant bullsh*t that's flying around the airwaves.

Free Speech is just one of the many things that makes this country a shining beacon of hope for so many in this world. But I'm beginning to wonder about the merits of nameless free speech. That is, would all of you post what you post if your full name was behind your sometimes incredibly mean spirited, or just plain ignorant statements? Would Beach Ho say that our nation is truly a christian nation, when it plainly isn't, (and, please, for the love of [enter deity name of choice here], don't argue that we are a christian nation because most of the country is christian; that only gives white extremists an excuse to claim that America is a white nation because the majority of Americans are white.)

Now, I pick on Beach Ho, but there are similar statements across this board. So, I'm curious. How many of you have the cajones to put your name (and if you own a business, your business's name) behind your words? I'm certainly not an angel myself when it comes to the Poltics/Current Event threads, but my name is above everything I write. If people don't know who "Matt Christ" is, (and there are plenty, I'm sure) then they at least have something to start an internet search.

I'll get the ball rolling. My full name is Matthew Christ. I do not own a business. I am a lifelong resident of SoWal and graduated from Butler Elementary, Seaside Middle School, and South Walton High School. I wrote a column for the Walton Sun that dealt with politics about three-two years ago. Currently, I am a sophomore at the University of Florida where I write a weekly column for the Independent Florida Alligator, the largest student newspaper in the country. In fact, for almost every week for the past three years, I have written a column dealing with controversial national/local issues. Each column has had my name on it, and more than often a picture of my cheery little face. Some of my columns go on wire services and are printed in newspapers and posted on internet news sites across the country. My point? I make real sure that what I write each week is accurate and not too inciting (although to incite discussion, debate, and even sharply worded "signed" letters to the editor is part of the columnist's job description). Essentially, I ask myself if I'm alright knowing that the words I just wrote are representing my name. If not, I start hitting the delete key.

Now what about the names of most of the previous posters? It's entirely your right and freedom to write what you want, but do you have the courage and bravery to put your name behind your words/taunts/ignorance/arrogance/ libel? Are your beliefs firm enough that you'll stand by them in the living flesh? Will you put your dignity on the line?

Or will you just continue to coward behind a computer screen and a cute SoWal name? Will you go back to engaging in dialogue that's more childish then I what I remember as a middle schooler in the lunch line?

Come on big shots. If you don't, your words have little more meaning than those found on public bathroom stalls.

~Matthew Christ

This moderator doesn't really have any say in the matter, but I would respectfully argue that while discussions of politics may be divisive, discussions of governance (both actual and, I guess, imagined :roll are as important as ever.

I think there is an obvious difference between discussion and trolling - trying to just get someone's feather's ruffled.

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I too have just caught up with this epic thread.

Personally, I love the Politics Section because it offers both entertainment and impassioned discussion/debate.

This thread, I'm sure, was meant as entertainment. There have been outlandish statements written by both sides of this legendary internet hissyfit. Really, the only issue that bothers me about the political section on SoWal (this thread confirms my belief) is that so many people get away with name calling and incredibly gross mischaracterizations that only fuel the arrant bullsh*t that's flying around the airwaves.

Free Speech is just one of the many things that makes this country a shining beacon of hope for so many in this world. But I'm beginning to wonder about the merits of nameless free speech. That is, would all of you post what you post if your full name was behind your sometimes incredibly mean spirited, or just plain ignorant statements? Would Beach Ho say that our nation is truly a christian nation, when it plainly isn't, (and, please, for the love of [enter deity name of choice here], don't argue that we are a christian nation because most of the country is christian; that only gives white extremists an excuse to claim that America is a white nation because the majority of Americans are white.)

Now, I pick on Beach Ho, but there are similar statements across this board. So, I'm curious. How many of you have the cajones to put your name (and if you own a business, your business's name) behind your words? I'm certainly not an angel myself when it comes to the Poltics/Current Event threads, but my name is above everything I write. If people don't know who "Matt Christ" is, (and there are plenty, I'm sure) then they at least have something to start an internet search.

I'll get the ball rolling. My full name is Matthew Christ. I do not own a business. I am a lifelong resident of SoWal and graduated from Butler Elementary, Seaside Middle School, and South Walton High School. I wrote a column for the Walton Sun that dealt with politics about three-two years ago. Currently, I am a sophomore at the University of Florida where I write a weekly column for the Independent Florida Alligator, the largest student newspaper in the country. In fact, for almost every week for the past three years, I have written a column dealing with controversial national/local issues. Each column has had my name on it, and more than often a picture of my cheery little face. Some of my columns go on wire services and are printed in newspapers and posted on internet news sites across the country. My point? I make real sure that what I write each week is accurate and not too inciting (although to incite discussion, debate, and even sharply worded "signed" letters to the editor is part of the columnist's job description). Essentially, I ask myself if I'm alright knowing that the words I just wrote are representing my name. If not, I start hitting the delete key.

Now what about the names of most of the previous posters? It's entirely your right and freedom to write what you want, but do you have the courage and bravery to put your name behind your words/taunts/ignorance/arrogance/ libel? Are your beliefs firm enough that you'll stand by them in the living flesh? Will you put your dignity on the line?

Or will you just continue to coward behind a computer screen and a cute SoWal name? Will you go back to engaging in dialogue that's more childish then I what I remember as a middle schooler in the lunch line?

Come on big shots. If you don't, your words have little more meaning than those found on public bathroom stalls.

~Matthew Christ