Support and Defend the Constitution

I was thinking about this today. There are people that I don't necessarily agree with, but post in a way that makes me want to at least consider their argument/idea. Then there are people that are ridiculous, and my eyes glaze over.

what you call false bullsheet is backed up by facts, page numbers and paragraphs of the items stated. You have not read the bill, I have. Do you attack people all the time or only when you cannot justify your position.

. Our belief in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, even for you, is what makes the USA an ideologic goal for the world. Do you ever read of people trying to sneak over the border into russia, china, or venezuela? No. Our ideals, our constitution and our freedoms are sought by many. Our patriotic citizens, died, to give you the rights, that you so easily dismiss.

I like this idea Matt. My name is Bobby Johnson. I sell RE locally on 30A. I am trying to figure out what is worse an extreme liberal or a extreme conservative. I use to think I was clear on that answer until I read this thread. Don't you all get it...? This is exactly what the government wants you to do. Fight, complain and be divided. Meantime, they are screwing you. Obama, Bush, etc. It does not matter. Once you reach that level in politricks you are corrupt. Sorry, welcome to the real America.

The ONLY way we will ever get our country back is when we wake up and unite. This will be very hard because of the extremes on both sides. They both tend to sound arrogant and righteous about their viewpoints which typically are unfounded or taken out of context. This in turn turns people off and steers them in another direction. In a full sprint.
I see Jesus being tossed into the political mix much on these threads. I am not sure I really understand the bible or where it all plays into the world or the USA but the little bit of reading I do know about Jesus was that he was about LOVE. Not much LOVE in division. If we could all learn to approach things from love instead of such righteous attitudes we could probably learn a lot from one another.

Well, hello again Bob. We who do fight the wars for our freedoms will continue to protect the freedoms of all Americans, even the cowards, like you. You could never be anyones CO, you have not the courage to defend your country, much less yourself.

now, there is an intelligent response. One that has nothing to do with the question. Again, when you cannot defend your position, you resort to name calling. Next, I'll be a racist, right?

I too have just caught up with this epic thread.

Personally, I love the Politics Section because it offers both entertainment and impassioned discussion/debate.

This thread, I'm sure, was meant as entertainment. There have been outlandish statements written by both sides of this legendary internet hissyfit. Really, the only issue that bothers me about the political section on SoWal (this thread confirms my belief) is that so many people get away with name calling and incredibly gross mischaracterizations that only fuel the arrant bullsh*t that's flying around the airwaves.

Free Speech is just one of the many things that makes this country a shining beacon of hope for so many in this world. But I'm beginning to wonder about the merits of nameless free speech. That is, would all of you post what you post if your full name was behind your sometimes incredibly mean spirited, or just plain ignorant statements? Would Beach Ho say that our nation is truly a christian nation, when it plainly isn't, (and, please, for the love of [enter deity name of choice here], don't argue that we are a christian nation because most of the country is christian; that only gives white extremists an excuse to claim that America is a white nation because the majority of Americans are white.)

Now, I pick on Beach Ho, but there are similar statements across this board. So, I'm curious. How many of you have the cajones to put your name (and if you own a business, your business's name) behind your words? I'm certainly not an angel myself when it comes to the Poltics/Current Event threads, but my name is above everything I write. If people don't know who "Matt Christ" is, (and there are plenty, I'm sure) then they at least have something to start an internet search.

I'll get the ball rolling. My full name is Matthew Christ. I do not own a business. I am a lifelong resident of SoWal and graduated from Butler Elementary, Seaside Middle School, and South Walton High School. I wrote a column for the Walton Sun that dealt with politics about three-two years ago. Currently, I am a sophomore at the University of Florida where I write a weekly column for the Independent Florida Alligator, the largest student newspaper in the country. In fact, for almost every week for the past three years, I have written a column dealing with controversial national/local issues. Each column has had my name on it, and more than often a picture of my cheery little face. Some of my columns go on wire services and are printed in newspapers and posted on internet news sites across the country. My point? I make real sure that what I write each week is accurate and not too inciting (although to incite discussion, debate, and even sharply worded "signed" letters to the editor is part of the columnist's job description). Essentially, I ask myself if I'm alright knowing that the words I just wrote are representing my name. If not, I start hitting the delete key.

Now what about the names of most of the previous posters? It's entirely your right and freedom to write what you want, but do you have the courage and bravery to put your name behind your words/taunts/ignorance/arrogance/ libel? Are your beliefs firm enough that you'll stand by them in the living flesh? Will you put your dignity on the line?

Or will you just continue to coward behind a computer screen and a cute SoWal name? Will you go back to engaging in dialogue that's more childish then I what I remember as a middle schooler in the lunch line?

Come on big shots. If you don't, your words have little more meaning than those found on public bathroom stalls.

~Matthew Christ

(By the way - fire departments, police departments, etc. are not the function of the federal government, but the state.)

I too have just caught up with this epic thread.

Personally, I love the Politics Section because it offers both entertainment and impassioned discussion/debate.

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Free Speech is just one of the many things that makes this country a shining beacon of hope for so many in this world. .............................................. ~Matthew Christ

Hi Matt

Some of us prefer our relative privacy (especially -- if I may be so bold as to assume -- we women types). We all have our reasons and you just have to accept them.

Since your job and identity at least partly revolve around your columns and onair work, it makes much more sense for you to ID yourself than it does for someone who owns a business here and would rather not have their business name connected to their viewpoints. It's fine (and part of the great tradition of online message boards) to keep your online ID separate from your real life, however you see fit.

Kurt's policy is that people stick to one username, however. ;-) If a poster sticks around, his or her personality eventually comes through, which is what makes it funn.

Okay, but it seems to me that even local governments benefit from Federal grants for all kinds of community development; emergency services, education, etc.

What about the National Guard, ..

the military, Medicare, the Interstate Highway system...

and if it is the Federal government you fear, what exactly do you fear about it? Do you not have the same access to your Members of Congress as everyone else does? Are you actively working to let him or her know what you are concerned about?

I just made a simple general statement about the pros and cons of patriotism. I didn't say anything specifically about the USA or any other country. The fact that you have made this a personal matter makes your motives very questionable.

The truth is sometimes an ugly thing, but it is truth nonetheless.

you fit the prerequisites, did you fill out an application?

I said nothing personal, merely made a statement of fact. If it hit a little to close to home. The problem lies within you, not me.

good first post...you just described the government in iran

I can tell you're angry that the country is finally shedding itself of all the misguided values you espouse. It's all over. You lost.

Frankly scarlet I don't give a phlying phuck. You're just a douche. Nothing personal, merely made a statement of fact. If it hit a little to close to home. The problem lies within you, not me.

The undesirables in the Republican party today are a by product of the Reagan revolution. It started under Reagan/Bush, then it became a festering sore while Clinton was in office. With Dubya, it was payback time. Now they are panicking because their vision of America has been categorically rejected and will never thrive. I could conceivably vote Republican if it weren't for the fact that the party comes across as an insane asylum run by the inmates.

And the life of the mother? There is no black or white. That is why government should stay out of this. I am glad you are against a constitutional amendment though.

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You are glad that the country is shedding the values espoused in the Constitution?? If so, what values should we be holding to in this country? Please elaborate on what our system of government should be based on. Should we just flap in the breeze and head whatever way the wind blows or should we have some moral and spiritual basis or the way we are governed?

Are you saying that the founders of our country had it wrong??

i guess for the same reason grown men, men who do not know each other and have no grievance with each other, men who would rather be home with their families/friends, can meet on the field of battle to kill each other because some idiot in charge says sick 'em. that's why we need parades, speeches, flags, and good ole fashioned patriotism to get worked up enough to set our common sense aside.

Oh, and there are no undesirables in the Democratic Party?? Can you say Cynthia McKinney, Al Gore, Robert Byrd, Ted Kennedy, etc, etc.?

You've got to be kidding me. There are nut jobs galore in both parties. I say get rid of all of them and start with a whole bunch of newbies and allow them only 6 years in office apiece. That would get everyone moving in the right direction, eliminate most of the lobbying, and get rid of all politicians constant worries about the next election.

Obama (just like every first term president before him) will be more worried about reelection in late 2010 and beyond than he will be in running the country.

The founders were wrong about many things and our Constitution has been amended appropriately, however that's a separate issue from my objections to the vile crap spewed out by the original poster.