Walton Co. School Board Meets about Blithe Spirit!!

Anyway, if you don?t agree with their position I don?t think it is necessary to mock their faith. You can mock their (anyone?s) politics!!

I have tried to read all the posts, and this one makes the most sense. But at the same time, as a former teacher, parent, and proponent of free speech; I hate to see anything censored. It is definitely a lose-lose situation.

Steelemama, if these people were like you we would not have a problem. I could never imagine you condoning censorship, and if you had been riding this out from the beginning with us, you would be aghast at what people do in the name of the Lord. I have spent so much time on this already and y'all don't even know the half of it- I know that sounds crazy!

Oh, and yes, I can mock their faith when they are using it for political nastiness. It is not faith- it is scare tactics. Bdarg put it well- they mocked their own faith when they filed the complaint. Yes, they have a right to speak, but their agenda was inappropriate and it is the responsibility of the school board and principal to not be swayed by any religion.

I hope I can ever get Will to even think about going to church again, because the weak teenage faith that he did have is pretty much shot. It is hard to explain to your kids how church people can be so wrong. I have explained to them that this has nothing to do with religion but everything to do with control and power. Thankfully there are a few LOCAL youth pastors that have been helping the kids deal with this mess and their confusion, and behind them 100%. It makes me question my own faith as well, and with the rise of this new type of Christian, I am getting grumpy and weary of them constantly trying to push their agenda upon us. They do not have the right to do it, and the last time I checked, Biblical scripture is not the law of the land.


Several high schools in other parts of the county are performing this play THIS WEEK (not to mention the hundreds of other performances at high schools through the years). This was researched and mentioned by one of the teachers on our district committee that approved the play for high school use. I can't wait to read their reviews, and I will post them when I see them. Lucky for them- if this craziness happened in their community, it happened years ago and was quickly snuffed in the name of common sense and the importance of keeping public education secular.

Even back in my more conservative days (and I was a toe the line righty- don't be shocked!), I never believed that religion should have influence in government and education. The 2000 election sent me in the other direction- I never understood how religion and politics would work well together. And they do work- if you are a conservative Christian. Which leaves out many many people in the USA.

This entire quagmire was the result of a few narrow minded extremists
who actually believe there are "REAL Goblins and Witches" hiding behind every bush. These are not rational people and have no place
being in any position of authority in our society.
Can you imagine the results? What if the person in charge of filling your
prescriptions from your Doctor were able to refuse to dispense your medication
just because it was against their beliefs.
OH...WAIT! I forgot! that is a FACT! (Look it up if you don't believe me!)

My wife and daughter are on the way to attend a wonderful ballet tonight at
the OWC Art's Campus...IN NICEVILLE. (Amazing at the difference one bridge and
about 15 miles can make in the mindset of the community!)
Maybe you have heard of it. The "Nutcracker Suite".

It is FULL of fairies and magical places. Full of Hope and Beauty.
I wonder if this performance will also be destroyed by these same fanatics
who have managed create this religio/political quagmire that sucked in
the whole school curriculum here. I wonder if those same people would ALLOW
that ballet to be performed at SWHS. And if they DID, how could they POSSIBLY
justify it?

I also wonder if the current events are portentous of a return to the
Dark Ages when religious fanatics held sway in all the highest courts.
Books were burned. PEOPLE WERE BURNED!

A time and place our forefather fled to create a new country where one could
live without the yoke of ANY kind of tyranny and oppression, whether it be
from religions or kings.

I may be being overly "dramatic" but this WAS all about a Drama after all.
And just like that "Drama", I am trying to make a point. When I moved here
almost 15 years ago it was because I saw a place of great natural beauty and
peace. In the last few years, I have seen that tranquility slowly fade, like flower
left un-watered. People used to respect the rights of others and valued their own
rights and freedoms.
It wasn't the developers or builders who are ruining the Emerald Coast. They had nothing to do with this. I won't spoil the answer by stating the obvious.

So these people don't want kids to learn to act in a play (it's a freaking play), but they have no problem with the girls wearing ... never mind. Let's not get them started.

Steelemama, if these people were like you we would not have a problem. I could never imagine you condoning censorship, and if you had been riding this out from the beginning with us, you would be aghast at what people do in the name of the Lord. I have spent so much time on this already and y'all don't even know the half of it- I know that sounds crazy!

Oh, and yes, I can mock their faith when they are using it for political nastiness. It is not faith- it is scare tactics. Bdarg put it well- they mocked their own faith when they filed the complaint. Yes, they have a right to speak, but their agenda was inappropriate and it is the responsibility of the school board and principal to not be swayed by any religion.

I hope I can ever get Will to even think about going to church again, because the weak teenage faith that he did have is pretty much shot. It is hard to explain to your kids how church people can be so wrong. I have explained to them that this has nothing to do with religion but everything to do with control and power. Thankfully there are a few LOCAL youth pastors that have been helping the kids deal with this mess and their confusion, and behind them 100%. It makes me question my own faith as well, and with the rise of this new type of Christian, I am getting grumpy and weary of them constantly trying to push their agenda upon us. They do not have the right to do it, and the last time I checked, Biblical scripture is not the law of the land.


Several high schools in other parts of the county are performing this play THIS WEEK (not to mention the hundreds of other performances at high schools through the years). This was researched and mentioned by one of the teachers on our district committee that approved the play for high school use. I can't wait to read their reviews, and I will post them when I see them. Lucky for them- if this craziness happened in their community, it happened years ago and was quickly snuffed in the name of common sense and the importance of keeping public education secular.

Even back in my more conservative days (and I was a toe the line righty- don't be shocked!), I never believed that religion should have influence in government and education. The 2000 election sent me in the other direction- I never understood how religion and politics would work well together. And they do work- if you are a conservative Christian. Which leaves out many many people in the USA.

I do think they "they" made much ado about nothing and have given God and Christianity a bad name. There are plenty of more important things on God's agenda. I'm sorry for what y'all have been through.

I do think they "they" made much ado about nothing and have given God and Christianity a bad name. There are plenty of more important things on God's agenda. I'm sorry for what y'all have been through.

Thanks Steelemama. We are exhausted, and your words mean alot.

This thread has become a "Sowal Instant Classic" Too bad it became so via religious persecution...

Shameful.

I do think they "they" made much ado about nothing and have given God and Christianity a bad name. There are plenty of more important things on God's agenda. I'm sorry for what y'all have been through.

Amen.

So, we found out how the auditorium was filled with so many people opposing Blite Spirit. Apparently the e-mail below was sent to many area church members.


I talked to quite a few people in the community today that were stunned to learn this extremism is happening here in SoWal. I think we have been complacent, and if this e-mail is not a wake up call, I don't know what is.




Dearest Friends:

Good Afternoon!! We had a very successful day getting our message out on the radio. We were on Psalm 91.1FM at 11:00AM to 12:00PM today. We had a "former" Wiccan who has become a Christian on the show. He was EXTREMELY CONCERNED about this play being performed and approved for high school use. He stated that Blithe Spirit was literally an "how-to instruction Manuel" for performance of Wicca arts. He said we must stop this in our schools!!! We need all of you to contact everyone you know who is concerned for our children and bring them with you tomorrow. PLEASE INCREASE YOUR INTENSITY OF YOUR PRAYING FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS!!! THIS WILL DEFINITELY MOVE THE LORD IN OUR BEHALF!! We thank OUR PRECIOUS JESUS in advance for the victory!! Pray that our community will see the love and concern of the Christians for them and for their children!! To God be the GLORY!!

NOTE: INTERCESSORY PRAYER will be held on the football field at SW HIGH starting 1 hour before our hearing tomorrow with the school board at 4:00 PM

The SCHOOL BOARD MEETING for our final appeal starts at 5:00 PM at SW High School.

See you all tomorrow!!

Our love and sincere thanks for everything you are doing! Keep praying and getting the word out!

In Him,

Jake and Rita



Father, I thank you for the victory you purchased for your people on Calvary. I thank you for he declaration , "It is finished." We, as your people are now choosing to enter into that finished victory in the fight against the enemy and his devices at SWHS as well as the county. We decree over the battle that it is finished and Jesus is LORD.

In Jesus name and by the power of His shed blood, we pray protection for Village Baptist and the other area churches involved with this issue. We bind every spirit the occult world would send against the church and cast them to the place Jesus has prepared for them. We break the power of every curse, hex and spell that has been directed against these churches and their members. I ask LORD for your angelic host to surround this environs and protect and preserve it.

LORD we pray for the board members meeting today and break off of them the spirit of deception and manipulation and control, every spirit of witchcraft is rendered powerless in Jesus name and by the power of the blood of the Lamb. Father, we bring every thought captive to the obedience of Christ and release these board members to act according to your will and ways. Stir their consciences and soften their hearts to know truth, love truth and to act on truth. Reveal yourself to them in a fresh loving way according to who you are.

Thank you LORD for leading your people in triumph. Thank you LORD that you give us the victory through our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. We declare that no weapon formed against the children in the school system shall prosper and that every tongue that rises up against those speaking for righteousness shall be refuted because this is our heritage as your servants. Continue to lead and guide us as we war against unrighteousness and the works of the devil. Thank you that we do not battle alone: indeed the battle is not ours, but yours.

Father, we confess as sin we as adults have lead double lives, watching things,doing things, saying things that do not always demonstrate your lordship in our lives. Forgive us Lord, and let this process with the school board be the beginning of a more sanctified walk of Holiness with you. Thank you Lord for leading us and guiding us.

Amen

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And no, I'm not going to he## for using "his" name in vain.

Have no fear everyone - the generation right behind us - a few who have contributed to this thread - will change things around.

How many people could be helped by all the energy those churches put into this effort? There are lots of cold, hungry, homeless people tonight who could use some Christian concern. And there are plenty of other pressing needs to be met in our community and the world at large. It's just this kind of fanatical thing that turns people against organized religion.

How many people could be helped by all the energy those churches put into this effort? There are lots of cold, hungry, homeless people tonight who could use some Christian concern. And there are plenty of other pressing needs to be met in our community and the world at large. It's just this kind of fanatical thing that turns people against organized religion.

Well said, Evangeline.

Wow- I love it when Christians issue threats. So Christ-like.

Easy there...I resemble that...

Why must this be made into a battle of Christians vs. the infidels? I like to think I am flexible and open-minded enough that I can support Blithe Spirit AND be a practicing Methodist without too much strain on my beliefs. So as to the "Christians prevailing" tonight, I think truethespian should remember that he was one of a very small group of Christians in that auditorium tonight, and that he does not represent us all.

Amen.

I wish Dune- Ahh would teach high school.

She would be AMAZING!!!

Please remember we practice censorship on this forum.

South Walton = SoWal

Thanks!

Viva La SoWal High Drama !!!

That's beautiful. I love the gentle tyranny of SoWal.com

oh dear lord....

(Where you been, punk?) I watched Harvey a couple of weeks ago..terribly offensive. Persecution of--um, whatchoocallem--people who are nuttier than squirrel poop? Then there's the negative portrayal of an alcoholic ex-con, a chauvenistic psychiatrist, etc.

Darg Vader--can you get me a copy of Blithe Spirit? I want to teach it to my acting class. When I tell them it was banned, they'll love it. (I just won't tell them it was un-banned.)

Why are people complaining about these emails that were sent out?

To be quite frank, everyone could have sent out emails if they wanted to. That was your choice and to me it just sounds like jealousy.

Why are people complaining about these emails that were sent out?

To be quite frank, everyone could have sent out emails if they wanted to. That was your choice and to me it just sounds like jealousy.

the Farce is strong in this one...

Why are people complaining about these emails that were sent out?

To be quite frank, everyone could have sent out emails if they wanted to. That was your choice and to me it just sounds like jealousy.

We are not all members of the same church, not do our churches send out e-mails like this. It is not jealousy, it is merely the fact that we are not part of one group, and public schools do not provide us with e-mail addresses to alert everyone to the meeting. There is no way anybody can compete with e-mailing from the pulpit- it is a brilliant way to rally your soldiers. Our supporters will have to read newspapers, watch the news, hear it from their neighbors and friends, and read message boards- which means they will actually have to know WHAT they should be concerned about, as opposed to many of the religious extremists that really didn't have a clue as to why they were called to the meeting, except for "something allegedly evil going on at SWHS".

Where do you go to school now, Truethespian? I understand it is not SWHS. And by the way, do your parents know you post on this message board? I bet they wouldn't like some of the jokes and adult humor content that is found here.

the Farce is strong in this one...

Sadly- the opposing team does not understand the meaning of the word "farce".

the Farce is strong in this one...

May the schwartz be with you, er... her

I really dont think it is any of your business where i go to school and it is really has no concern to this thread but just to make you happy i am attending OWC as part of dual enrollment full-time so that i will have my Acting Associates Degree when i graduate from high school. I am apart of SWHS International Thespian Society and i was in all three plays last year. I have been to two performing arts schools where i have majored in theatre and musical theatre. I have directed two full length musicals and i have been in four plays. I have also performed in Trumbauer music and theatre competition for solo comedic male song in the district and state competition. And yes my parent does know that i post stuff on this site and she doesnt have a problem with it. So there, are you happy? Any other questions?

I really dont think it is any of your business where i go to school and it is really has no concern to this thread but just to make you happy i am attending OWC as part of dual enrollment full-time so that i will have my Acting Associates Degree when i graduate from high school. I am apart of SWHS International Thespian Society and i was in all three plays last year. I have been to two performing arts schools where i have majored in theatre and musical theatre. I have directed two full length musicals and i have been in four plays. I have also performed in Trumbauer music and theatre competition for solo comedic male song in the district and state competition. And yes my parent does know that i post stuff on this site and she doesnt have a problem with it. So there, are you happy? Any other questions?

C'mon Bobby. If you are THAT concerned why weren't you out there protesting the "Nutcracker Suite"? Little children playing in a performance with magic and Fairies?

For one, the nutcracker is not being produced by the school. But still the reason why we are against blithe spirit is not because of "magic" it is because of the "darkness" of the play.

For one, the nutcracker is not being produced by the school. But still the reason why we are against blithe spirit is not because of "magic" it is because of the "darkness" of the play.

I see.

So IF this play WERE being produced by "a school" it WOULD be something you would have done your best to stop? But you find yourself UNABLE to protest those things "produced" by others but PERFORMED at schools?
Is this correct?
Just trying to get a handle on things.

For one, the nutcracker is not being produced by the school. But still the reason why we are against blithe spirit is not because of "magic" it is because of the "darkness" of the play.

Oh yes.
I almost forgot.
Please define "darkness".

Truethespian will go far in church theater.;-)

He had mentioned that the school should have performed Grease instead of Blithe Spirit. I laughed out loud, then Googled to find out what I already knew- that Grease is quite controversial as a high school play choice, but didn't find any high schools having issues with Blithe Spirit.

Any other questions?

Yeah, when did you go crazy?

Truethespian will go far in church theater.;-)

He had mentioned that the school should have performed Grease instead of Blithe Spirit. I laughed out loud, then Googled to find out what I already knew- that Grease is quite controversial as a high school play choice, but didn't find any high schools having issues with Blithe Spirit.

C'mon, now, JDarg--If you just leave out the parts that refer to sex and teenage pregnancy and drinking and smoking and cussing and more sex, Grease is a sweet little (5 minute) musical.