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Walton County does have Democrats!

rapunzel avatar
Beach Fanatic
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And I met a whole roomful of them last night.

I know many of you will assume that we burned a flag to kick things off, and then placed our hands upon a copy of Origins of Species and swore an oath to undermine freedom. No! It was just a roomful of smart, thoughtful, and motivated people who are anxious to help get our country going in the right direction again. Here...in Walton County. :clap:

http://www.waltondemocrats.org/

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hnooe avatar
Beach Fanatic
#27
I scored 100% Libertarian which was no surprise. To the question of Republican Libertarians, it is a misnomer. Many seem to believe that Libertarians are really Republicans in sheep's clothing but it is not true. Democrats and Republicans both aspire to have big government. Dems want the governemt to redistribute income and have control over education, healh care, welfare, etc and Republicans want the government to control the social side, or moral side, and require school prayer, the Pledge in class, not allow me to buy booze on Sunday, etc.

If it were up to me, the top tax rate would drop to less than five percent, we would end the silly notion of a corporate income tax and government would be left with the responsibility of national defense and a law enforcement/judicial system and nothing more...
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Now I know why I am not a Replublican!
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#28
liberal here.:wave:


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal[/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net"[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations,[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.[/FONT]​
Tell us something we didn't already know. Alright I'll take the quiz but you'll all be surprised at the results.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#29
Well, I was a little surprised. Conservative, 30/90.
Alicia Leonard avatar
SoWal Insider
#30
Omg....................... I'm a LIBERTARIAN.:shock: I just thought I was a registered Independent.

support maximum liberty in both personal and

economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one

that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence.

Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose

government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate

diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties

100/80
Beach Fanatic
#31
Omg....................... I'm a LIBERTARIAN.:shock: I just thought I was a registered Independent.

support maximum liberty in both personal and

economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one

that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence.

Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose

government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate

diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties

100/80

:clap::clap::clap: Join the club!!
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#32
Careful with those online tests which tells you what you are. Next thing you know, Hillary will create one which says that everyone who takes the test is a Hillary Democrat.
Beach Fanatic
#33
Careful with those online tests which tells you what you are. Next thing you know, Hillary will create one which says that everyone who takes the test is a Hillary Democrat.

:yikes:
rapunzel avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#34
90/30 -- Which it calls a Liberal, but that is only one square away from a libertarian.

I would probably be an economic libertarian if history didn't show us that economic libertarianism leads to no middle class within three generations. The large and strong middle class is what has historically made America great.
Mango avatar
SoWal Insider
#35
0/0- I got Commie Sympathizer because I like vodka and cigarettes.
Alicia Leonard avatar
SoWal Insider
#36
0/0- I got Commie Sympathizer because I like vodka and cigarettes.
:floor::floor:
traderx avatar
Beach Fanatic
#37
90/30 -- Which it calls a Liberal, but that is only one square away from a libertarian.

I would probably be an economic libertarian if history didn't show us that economic libertarianism leads to no middle class within three generations. The large and strong middle class is what has historically made America great.

Such claims deserve a citation to augment credibility. :D

When Reagan assumed the Presidency in early 1981, the top tax rate was 70% and he crafted a reduction in the rate to 28%. His approach was called many names by the opposition replete with declarations that the middle class would be squeezed and that the lone benefactors would be the rich. In fact, there were some surprising revelations as described in the Cato Blog article below.

Middle Class Squeeze?

New Census Bureau numbers released today on income, poverty and health coverage in 2005 are bound to fuel charges that the poor are getting poorer while the middle class continues to be squeezed. See what 25 years of tax cuts for the rich, globalization, and declining union membership have caused? But a look at the numbers inside the report tells a different story.

If we define the middle class as households earning between $35,000 and $75,000 a year, the middle class in America remains a huge demographic group. According to the Census report, Table A-1, the middle class made up 33.3 percent of U.S. households in 2005. That share is indeed somewhat smaller than in 1980, when 38.2 percent of households earned between $35,000 and $75,000 a year in real (inflation-adjusted) 2005 dollars.

Aha, so the middle class really is shrinking if not exactly disappearing, the alarmists might respond. But the Census numbers also show that over the past 25 years, the share of U.S. households earning less than $35,000 a year has also shrunk, from 44.5 percent in 1980 to 38.4 percent in 2005. Meanwhile, the share of households earning more than $75,000 a year has jumped from 17.4 percent to 28.3 percent.

In other words, if the middle class in America has shrunk, it is only because so many formerly middle-class households have moved to the upper-income brackets, while a significant number of households previously in the lower brackets have moved up to the middle class and beyond.

The solid economic growth of the past two decades has indeed lifted all kinds of household boats. By the most basic measure of real household income, a broad swathe of Americans are better off than they were 25 years ago—thanks to growth fueled in good measure by lower marginal tax rates, expanding trade, and a more flexible domestic economy.

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rapunzel avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#38
Such claims deserve a citation to augment credibility. :D

When Reagan assumed the Presidency in early 1981, the top tax rate was 50% and he crafted a reduction in the rate to 35%. His approach was called many names by the opposition replete with declarations that the middle class would be squeezed and that the lone benefactors would be the rich. In fact, there were some surprising revelations as described in the Cato Blog article below.

Middle Class Squeeze?

New Census Bureau numbers released today on income, poverty and health coverage in 2005 are bound to fuel charges that the poor are getting poorer while the middle class continues to be squeezed. See what 25 years of tax cuts for the rich, globalization, and declining union membership have caused? But a look at the numbers inside the report tells a different story.

If we define the middle class as households earning between $35,000 and $75,000 a year, the middle class in America remains a huge demographic group. According to the Census report, Table A-1, the middle class made up 33.3 percent of U.S. households in 2005. That share is indeed somewhat smaller than in 1980, when 38.2 percent of households earned between $35,000 and $75,000 a year in real (inflation-adjusted) 2005 dollars.

Aha, so the middle class really is shrinking if not exactly disappearing, the alarmists might respond. But the Census numbers also show that over the past 25 years, the share of U.S. households earning less than $35,000 a year has also shrunk, from 44.5 percent in 1980 to 38.4 percent in 2005. Meanwhile, the share of households earning more than $75,000 a year has jumped from 17.4 percent to 28.3 percent.

In other words, if the middle class in America has shrunk, it is only because so many formerly middle-class households have moved to the upper-income brackets, while a significant number of households previously in the lower brackets have moved up to the middle class and beyond.

The solid economic growth of the past two decades has indeed lifted all kinds of household boats. By the most basic measure of real household income, a broad swathe of Americans are better off than they were 25 years ago?thanks to growth fueled in good measure by lower marginal tax rates, expanding trade, and a more flexible domestic economy.

Yes, and if you look at the CPI, you will see that consumer prices haven't really gone up in the past year.

You're citing Cato for credibility? Seriously? :floor: That's just pie precious.
traderx avatar
Beach Fanatic
#39
Yes, and if you look at the CPI, you will see that consumer prices haven't really gone up in the past year.

You're citing Cato for credibility? Seriously? :floor: That's just pie precious.

The Cato article includes a link to the U.S. Census bureau so the information presented in the article is readily accessed and verified.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#40
I'm a liberal go figure. 100/40

Republicans enjoy you scotch in a wood paneled room, I'm off to smoke pot at an orgy on the beach. :wave:
rapunzel avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#41
The Cato article includes a link to the U.S. Census bureau so the information presented in the article is readily accessed and verified.

Here's a link to the CPI, so you can see that there is no inflation.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

That's sort of my point...the ways of calculating these various indicators have been tinkered with a lot in the past few years. For the CPI, the market basket mean was measured until the Bushies took charge at the Department of Labor, now they select a median representative consumer product to represent the whole economy. These numbers are not credible, and are not reflecting the reality most people can see all around them.
organicmama avatar
Beach Fanatic
#42
:floor::floor::floor::floor::floor:Me too!

And, guess what's funnier.....

I scored the same as wrobert!!!!!:floor::floor::floor::floor:

No offense meant at all, wrobert.:wave:



Omg....................... I'm a LIBERTARIAN.:shock: I just thought I was a registered Independent.

support maximum liberty in both personal and

economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one

that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence.

Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose

government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate

diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties

100/80
wrobert avatar
Beach Fanatic
#43
:floor::floor::floor::floor::floor:Me too!

And, guess what's funnier.....

I scored the same as wrobert!!!!!:floor::floor::floor::floor:

No offense meant at all, wrobert.:wave:


I am already on thin ice........you are not helping matters.
Jdarg avatar
SoWal Expert
#44
I am already on thin ice........you are not helping matters.

We'll just change your name again- OrganicRobert.:floor:

Seriously- you know you have more fun with Democrats. Just admit it.
NoHall avatar
hmmmm......can't remember
#45
Conservative Libertarian. Anyone shocked as I am? :roll:
wrobert avatar
Beach Fanatic
#46
We'll just change your name again- OrganicRobert.:floor:

Seriously- you know you have more fun with Democrats. Just admit it.


I freely admit it. My plan to infiltrate is right on schedule.


Did I say that out loud?
wrobert avatar
Beach Fanatic
#47
Conservative Libertarian. Anyone shocked as I am? :roll:


We need to all get together and start our own party. I think we all agree way more than we disagree. Except for SandyBanks.
NoHall avatar
hmmmm......can't remember
#48
We need to all get together and start our own party. I think we all agree way more than we disagree. Except for SandyBanks.

That goes against my ideas of liberty, kind of like organizing an anarchist group. :lol:
organicmama avatar
Beach Fanatic
#49
We need to all get together and start our own party. I think we all agree way more than we disagree. Except for SandyBanks.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
I've got no problem admitting that!

About a year ago, I realized I was getting more conservative in my "old age" and freaked out about it. I thought I was becoming my DAD:yikes:. Can I be a conservative hippie?:biggrin:
organicmama avatar
Beach Fanatic
#50
We'll just change your name again- OrganicRobert.:floor:

Seriously- you know you have more fun with Democrats. Just admit it.

:floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor:
organicmama avatar
Beach Fanatic
#51
I am already on thin ice........you are not helping matters.

You know you love us!!!!:wub::wub:

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