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P.S. If the current Sheriff starts building churches like a predecessor in the past has done...yes, we are going to have issues.
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I don't think that will ever happen again. I have no problem with inmates cleaning cemeteries but I think that practice departed when I did. And we only cleaned cemeteries that were not connected to churches after Quinn was defeated. I think the "In God We Trust" stickers are a great idea but would not want a sticker that said "Go to 1st Christian Church" or something similar on a government vehicle. One recognizes a motto while the other favors a specific sect or belief.
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For me, the history of the "motto" is sketchy at best and there is a long sordid history about that too but it is what it is today because of it. No argument.
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I really don't care what others may think. I do not go to church. I do believe, simply because I have had so much hppen to me in my lifetime, I know there is a higher power, call it what you will. I, and millions of others, fought so that we could have both freedom of religion as well as freedom of expression. I have no problem with the bumper stikers. You believe what you want and I'll do you same but quit trying to tell me what I can and cannot do because it doesn't fit you political agenda or beliefs. I'll go my way and you go yours but let us do it without telling each other and quietly.
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I really don't care what others may think. I do not go to church. I do believe, simply because I have had so much hppen to me in my lifetime, I know there is a higher power, call it what you will. I, and millions of others, fought so that we could have both freedom of religion as well as freedom of expression. I have no problem with the bumper stikers. You believe what you want and I'll do you same but quit trying to tell me what I can and cannot do because it doesn't fit you political agenda or beliefs. I'll go my way and you go yours but let us do it without telling each other and quietly.
I would hope you fought for my freedom FROM religion.
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I do not normally, as you are aware, respond to your posts, but yes, your freedom from religion qualifies.
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You believe what you want and I'll do you same but quit trying to tell me what I can and cannot do because it doesn't fit you political agenda or beliefs.
Who did that?
If you are referring to me Andy A I have not said anything about what you should do or not do! And that's the whole point.
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Not a chance. I recognize your tongue in cheek sarcasm Bob so let's be real...I'm not going to take on Walton County over whether or not the majority believes in God. I know they do. Majority wins!
Let me also remind you...I don't give a tinkers damn about that flag. Whether it stays or goes, makes me no difference. I supported the right of the majority of individuals to assemble, protest, etc. I respected majority opinion in what they believe (how they feel) as to what that flag represents to them and what history has taught them. Do I believe in God or "In God we trust"? I've said I'm agnostic. I respect your right to believe it whether I do or not. Every individual has the inherent right to respect, believe and support whatever they choose.
I tried to be mindful and respectful of minority opinion by not threatening anyone, calling names, using hateful or racist remarks and I think the few who did, got "trolled" for acting like trolls.
And because of your stand reference the flag, it did shock me that you took folks to task, as the minority in this county for their belief of what the flag represented to them and yet you came out and basically said you did not want the target on you because of your belief, although you have repeated it numerous times reference the bumper sticker. So there isn't any hypocrisy in one belief over the other because it is in the minority?
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And because of your stand reference the flag, it did shock me that you took folks to task, as the minority in this county for their belief of what the flag represented to them and yet you came out and basically said you did not want the target on you because of your belief, although you have repeated it numerous times reference the bumper sticker. So there isn't any hypocrisy in one belief over the other because it is in the minority?
I didn't take anyone to task as you call it Bob I said what I felt and what I supported.
Did I troll Cuff and the others who made racist, ignorant remarks umm, probably. Did I use racist, hateful, pious remarks to do it? No.
For whatever its worth Bob, there is a difference here in what I said and did and what the minority of the "take it down" group are still doing.
I am not fighting to have those bumper stickers removed. I'm not looking for national media attention, I'm not trying to hurt the Community economically, I'm not trying to divide and if I did piss people off for anything I said in what I did support...they have the right to be pissed off and offended...as much as the next person.
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I do not normally, as you are aware, respond to your posts, but yes, your freedom from religion qualifies.
Thank you for your service.
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I hate to say I told you so...
http://www.wzep1460.com/walton-county-sheriff-responds-to-freedom-from-religion-foundation/
Before anyone asks...I'm NOT involved, did NOT file the complaint, knew nothing about it until I read the article this morning on WZEP and AGREE with the Sheriff ONLY in the context of the flag flap...
http://www.wzep1460.com/walton-county-sheriff-responds-to-freedom-from-religion-foundation/
Before anyone asks...I'm NOT involved, did NOT file the complaint, knew nothing about it until I read the article this morning on WZEP and AGREE with the Sheriff ONLY in the context of the flag flap...
The disdain of a small minority should never, absent legitimate grievance, take precedence over the majority.
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I hate to say I told you so...
http://www.wzep1460.com/walton-county-sheriff-responds-to-freedom-from-religion-foundation/
Before anyone asks...I'm NOT involved, did NOT file the complaint, knew nothing about it until I read the article this morning on WZEP and AGREE with the Sheriff ONLY in this context...
LOL. That letter has got some attitude behind those crafty words. Give em hell sheriff. I bet he posts it to his Facebook page.
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LOL. That letter has got some attitude behind those crafty words. Give em hell sheriff. I bet he posts it to his Facebook page.
I agree with him only in the context of the flag flap Teresa....I respect the job he is doing for the County as it relates to law enforcement.
Most people (by nature) have some serious attitude when it comes to anything they believe in (or not) passionately. Hence why people saw so much attitude over the Confederate flag...which btw, isn't illegal.
I have my doubts about the God issue.
Yes, it was posted to FB by the Sheriif's Ofc.
SoWal Guide
I agree with him only in the context of the flag flap Teresa....I respect the job he is doing for the County as it relates to law enforcement.
Most people (by nature) have some serious attitude when it comes to anything they believe in (or not) passionately. Hence why people saw so much attitude over the Confederate flag...which btw, isn't illegal.
I have my doubts about the God issue.
Yes, it was posted to FB by the Sheriif's Ofc.
For me, the sticker is not even an issue. Don't care.
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Don't care.
And for me that's the problem. People in general care only when it's something they are passionate about (a piece of cloth) but when the shoes on the other foot and the law in regard to its Constitutionality it becomes an "ostrich moment".
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And for me that's the problem. People in general don't care when it's something they are passionate about (a piece of cloth) but when the shoes on the other foot and the law is questioned in regard to Constitutional law it becomes an "ostrich moment".
I see it as a short sighted PR move.. jumping on the God sticker bandwagon started by other sheriffs in the panhandle..
If God is already on the badge and on the side of the vehicle as part of the emblem or whatever, then why the sticker? PR. Letters. Facebook content. Lots of comments of support. Attention. Whatever.
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I see it as a ridiculous PR stunt. As seen on his fb page today. No thanks. I don't have to care.
The majority of Walton County sees Uhlfelder's actions as a HUGE PR stunt as well Teresa!
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The majority of Walton County sees Uhlfelder's actions as a HUGE PR stunt as well Teresa!
I'm not referring to the flag. That's another issue and has been discussed elsewhere as it is completely different in every way.
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I'm not referring to the flag. That's another issue and has been discussed elsewhere as it is completely different in every way.
I beg to differ!
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I beg to differ!
But of course!
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If God is already on the badge and on the side of the vehicle as part of the emblem or whatever, then why the sticker?
The question Teresa is, Is it constitutionally legal? I think we are fixing to find out.
Lots of comments of support.Lot's of support for an issue that isn't illegal too!
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The question Teresa is, Is it constitutionally legal? I think we are fixing to find out.
Lot's of support for an issue that isn't illegal too!
I'll watch with a little interest. Keep us posted.
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I'll watch with a little interest. Keep us posted.
Someone just said to me (and I agree) allot of self-interest at work here.
SoWal Guide
Someone just said to me (and I agree) allot of self-interest at work here.
Exactly what I posted above. Couldn't agree more.
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Exactly what I posted above. Couldn't agree more.
If you stand for nothing Teresa, you will fall for anything!
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