Walton Sun compares Removal of Blue Signs to Widening Hwy 331

Cartoon from the Walton Sun
April 19, 2008

I'm not sure where T Pagels gets his or her info from, but it will takes tremendous amounts of money to four-lane 331 and the bridges spanning the Bay. I believe estimated costs of the bridges alone was around $250 million, and may be higher now as fuel prices seem to be driving up the cost of everything. Energy and effort by vocal locals won't make it happen. It will take funding by the State, and with the budget cutbacks, you won't see it happen this year, though it is in the works. When I saw it show up on the strategic planning time line goal list for the North West Florida Transportation Corridor Authority, I stopped worrying about it so much. The blue signs were a simple thing to tackle. You might want to do a little more research on the expense of four-laning 331, before writing cartoons about it comparing it to the blue signs. ;-)

I think the point Tom is trying to make is that if as many people showed up at meetings on 331 in the past years as were involved in this issue, it would have been moved up to a higher priority much quicker. Personally I doubt it. Everyone uses the four laning of 79 as an example and why it was done first. All you have to do is look at the population figures to see why. While evac times are high here, they are going to fix what can be done to satisfy the largest number of people first. Then we will get ours.

That is exactly what he is trying to say, and I disagree. The only reason hwy 79 was 4-laned first is due to the new PCB airport, and maybe also the high cost of the bridges across the Bay.

I think the point Tom is trying to make is that if as many people showed up at meetings on 331 in the past years as were involved in this issue, it would have been moved up to a higher priority much quicker. Personally I doubt it. Everyone uses the four laning of 79 as an example and why it was done first. All you have to do is look at the population figures to see why. While evac times are high here, they are going to fix what can be done to satisfy the largest number of people first. Then we will get ours.

True. Cost of project per benefited person is usually a VERY large part of the consideration calculus. SJ is right in that the airport most likely was factored into that cost/benefit calculation, whether or not it tipped the balance who knows, however until the area south of the bay gains enough population to justify the expense/person, the 4-lane bridge is likely to be relatively low on the priority list. One shot that we south of the bay would have is if our local congressional rep and state senator were to carve us out a large piece of political pork from the federal budget and earmark it for the bridge, then.... [sorry, but the reality is that that is usually how it gets done].

Private investors and a toll bridge would be an option, but with the current credit crunch, I think that is not very likely.

The low density of people in our area makes it difficult when competing for funds with densities like Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Pensacola and even Panama City, although it does make for a much nicer place to live as long as a hurricane not bearing down on us. IMO

I'm offended; that guy in the cartoon is supposed to be from SOWAL but he doesn't even have a polo player or crocodile on his shirt? Sheesh, he looks kind of NORWAL in that cheap shirt;-)

Doesnt he realize that the good ol' boys and girls of Walton County can be swayed alot faster than the State of Florida?:roll::funn:

Bad comparison. Since the 4 laning of 331 was already beginning and something I wanted, it obviously wasn't an issue I was vocal about.

Maybe if the local paper spent as much time reporting on important issues and fact checking as they do mocking community members for getting involved with an issue they cared about...........

It didn't hurt Bay Co. and Hwy. 79 getting four laned early by having their State Representative Allan Bense in leadership positions and finally Speaker of the House. He is now on a tax committee that warrants more close monitoring. Help from Washington D.C. and Congress could also benefit our road issues. The press is lacking in reporting what current commissioners have been doing for the last four years. There are a few experienced reporters that can ask the right questions, but they can't be everywhere. If a commissioner never shows up at any meetings, doesn't return phone calls, etc. it is hard to report what their vision or strategies are and what they are really up to. They are probably just following their publicists advice and staying low and off the radar except for puff pr pieces.

Reading between the lines it appears you are speaking about Commissioner Brannon. I think he has done an excellent job since his election. Doesn't seem to have an opponent in the upcoming election. Guess there is not a groundswell of individuals that share your evaluation. You ever think of running agaist him ?

Anyone would be better than Commissioner Brannon. His return phone call rate is worse than Sheriff Johnson. It is a joke about him being Commissioner AWOL. There is someone that has filed. Hope they can overcome illegal campaign contributions that could soar over $100,000. Good and qualified candidates may be reluctant to file in Walton County due to the extensive false and negative campaigns that were fueled by illegal campaign organizations. It certainly has nothing to do with a "good job" being performed -- not. Since they've been outted now, the illegal campaign organizations may not be as prolific. Also, some individuals behind those groups have gone bankrupt due to their overdevelopment and flipping, so they may not have as much free cash flow to throw around. Scott Brannon was found quilty and fined for his campaign activities.

Interesting that Comm Brannon is mentioned as being AWOL from the local meetings, because the day of the TDC brainstorming meeting with the fiasco of locking people out, was the day that Comm Brannon was in Tallahassee, with three other Commissioners, meeting with our Congressmen about getting funding for four-laning hwy 331. The Commissioners have hired a lobbyist (or lobbyist firm) to help push our County's needs to the forefront. I give the County Commissioners hell for a lot of valid reasons, but I commend them on trying to direct State and Federal money to Walton County. I do think they are doing a good job with that. (I still give Comm Brannon two thumbs down for missing the other two meetings, but that is not at issue with the Hwy 331 funding.)

I'm offended; that guy in the cartoon is supposed to be from SOWAL but he doesn't even have a polo player or crocodile on his shirt? Sheesh, he looks kind of NORWAL in that cheap shirt;-)

I am both a Sowal and Norwal, and the fact that you even mentioned the kind of shirt the CARTOON has on shows what a snob you are. Didn't you know us norwal folks only wear white t-shirts or overalls, got to run one of the christmas lights on the front of my trailer has burned out and got to be replaced.

Lots of classy folks in Nowal. I am also a part time resident there and full time in Sowal. The shirt comment may have been meant to be funny, but with the climate with the south vs the north, I think was in poor taste. Give me a nowal neighbor anytime!!!

I'm offended; that guy in the cartoon is supposed to be from SOWAL but he doesn't even have a polo player or crocodile on his shirt? Sheesh, he looks kind of NORWAL in that cheap shirt;-)

You sure do know how to ruffle some feathers Skunky. :wave:

I'm offended; that guy in the cartoon is supposed to be from SOWAL but he doesn't even have a polo player or crocodile on his shirt? Sheesh, he looks kind of NORWAL in that cheap shirt;-)

Offended? Since you were offended, you decided to offend everyone in Norwal as well?

You?re obviously an ?implant? to Sowal as a ?true local? does not have that type of mentality. People like you are the ones who give Sowal residents a bad rep. Perhaps you should relocate to Okaloosa where the people with no class live.

I am both a Sowal and Norwal, and the fact that you even mentioned the kind of shirt the CARTOON has on shows what a snob you are. Didn't you know us norwal folks only wear white t-shirts or overalls, got to run one of the christmas lights on the front of my trailer has burned out and got to be replaced.

Better to go shirtless and show off the tatoos😀

You sure do know how to ruffle some feathers Skunky. :wave:

Tapping the glass, as somebody put it:lol:

Offended? Since you were offended, you decided to offend everyone in Norwal as well?

You?re obviously an ?implant? to Sowal as a ?true local? does not have that type of mentality. People like you are the ones who give Sowal residents a bad rep. Perhaps you should relocate to Okaloosa where the people with no class live.

I thought the true locals were marched off to Oklahoma:welcome:

Skunky, those were locals and natives, whom were forced to walk through the winter to OK. Anyone who lives in SoWal is a local. Being a native is another thing. www.dictionary.com is a good source for definitions.

I think skunkape is trolling........kind of like sandybanks. Slow day I guess...............

I think skunkape is trolling........kind of like sandybanks. Slow day I guess...............

I would never do something like that:lie:

I am both a Sowal and Norwal, and the fact that you even mentioned the kind of shirt the CARTOON has on shows what a snob you are. Didn't you know us norwal folks only wear white t-shirts or overalls, got to run one of the christmas lights on the front of my trailer has burned out and got to be replaced.

Calm down Jonah.