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I’m not, but I do have very, very good insurance, so if he does, all my hospital bills will be paid

Giuliani on if he is worried trump would throw him under the bus.

Drifter, give us that link that shows the the country fares better under republican presidents vs Democratic presidents.

Why don’t you take a look at the democratic districts. That will clear it up. Start with San Fran. How about the facts that we Have lowest employment and highest job growth. Oh that’s right you don’t like facts.

Why don’t you take a look at the democratic districts. That will clear it up. Start with San Fran. How about the facts that we Have lowest employment and highest job growth. Oh that’s right you don’t like facts.

Show where the country fares better under a republican president vs a Democratic President.
List the states most dependent on govt. money.

Show where the country fares better under a republican president vs a Democratic President.
List the states most dependent on govt. money.

I don't know what states get what money and I don't care. I'm saying let's look at districts that are not doing great and see what party is in charge. Simple, start with San Fran ,Nancy's area then look at Maxine 's area. Those 2 are some of the worst. But oh they both live behind walls with guns protecting them.
Maybe you want Elizabeth or Bernie and all of there beliefs. We see how great it worked out for Venezuela.
I don't look at a democratic or Republican president, I look for results. I'm a independent

I have not read his yet, but I certainly will. I'm fairly confident that it will contain mostly information that I'm already aware of. I already know enough about what happened to think that impeachment of the President is a moral imperative. This is the official statement of grounds for impeachment.

Defend Our Democracy | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

By the way, what we are seeing now on this thread from the trumpers is an argument technique known as "firehosing". It's not worth even trying to address these folks. I believe it's what happens when a gaslighter goes berzerk with rage and desperation. It's also called the firehose of falsehood. To quote Wikipedia:

The firehose of falsehood is a propaganda technique in which a large number of messages are broadcast rapidly, repetitively, and continuously over multiple channels (such as news and social media) without regard for truth or consistency.

Of course it is not about Trump (your obesssion). You know what it is a symbol of: this will blow up the Democrats faces. And as I posted way back "remember, you all wanted this"...

No, I never wanted this I voted for the qualified candidate.

Fox news still has people with integrity:

I don't know what states get what money and I don't care. I'm saying let's look at districts that are not doing great and see what party is in charge. Simple, start with San Fran ,Nancy's area then look at Maxine 's area. Those 2 are some of the worst. But oh they both live behind walls with guns protecting them.
Maybe you want Elizabeth or Bernie and all of there beliefs. We see how great it worked out for Venezuela.
I don't look at a democratic or Republican president, I look for results. I'm a independent

So you vote Democrat?

You really need to get out more. He cars about lots more than Biden, but this is what the Dems are forgoing after this time , so yes he’s talking about Biden. If you listen , then you would know that the Ukrainian President didn’t
even know that aid was withheld . In case you missed it the Dems have moved on to another theory now, because they could get that one to stick. Their star witness said 3 times that President of Ukrainian didn’t
know about aid being withheld. The aid was released and no investigation was done, so get over it. Yes Hunter Biden needs to be investigated.
In case you missed it, now they have a new phone call from a staffer that might have heard something and told someone. How gullible are you? I know you don’t like president Trump, but please tell me how you think this tv show is not an insult to the American people. It’s so ridiculous.

Their star witness is cowering under his desk in the Oval Office unlike the Benghazi star witness who testified under oath for eleven hours. They let you do that when you’re innocent.

What I would like to know is, why is Starr, an experienced prosecutor comparing the impeachment to a criminal trial and using the lame excuse that it's not a crime if you don't succeed?

Fox’s Chris Wallace: Bill Taylor Was ‘Very Impressive’ and ‘Very Damaging’ to Trump

Starr, who was also on the panel, agreed with Wallace that Taylor was impressive but claimed that all of his testimony was “hearsay” and wouldn’t be admissible in a court of law. After Starr noted that military aid to Ukraine was eventually released on Sept. 11, suggesting that this meant there was no quid pro quo tied to Ukrainian investigations, Wallace offered a counterpoint.

What I would like to know is, why is Starr, an experienced prosecutor comparing the impeachment to a criminal trial and using the lame excuse that it's not a crime if you don't succeed?

Fox’s Chris Wallace: Bill Taylor Was ‘Very Impressive’ and ‘Very Damaging’ to Trump

Democrats should just start hammering that trump is so weak and inept he couldn’t even extort a vulnerable ally and watch him melt into a rage and claim he is the most perfect bigly beautiful extortionist in the world.

Democrats should just start hammering that trump is so weak and inept he couldn’t even extort a vulnerable ally and watch him melt into a rage and claim he is the most perfect bigly beautiful extortionist in the world.

True, because he still expects Zalensky to investigate Bidens. You could say that Zalensky basically stiffed him once he got the money.

One other thing to consider is that while most people think Trump will be impeached, few think that he will be removed. This kind of behavior is unlikely to end, especially during an election year when he is going to go full force on digging up dirt. He will see his acquittal (not sure if that's the right word) as vindication, and it is likely to embolden him. All I can say is that there is no limit on how many times a president can be subject to well-deserved impeachment proceedings.

“I’m a Republican who has never agreed with everything in the Republican Party platform. Most of it I did, and that’s why I was a Republican elected official, and felt comfortable as one, but things have changed. I guess what I’m most surprised at is the number of Republicans, both in Congress and just out there in the country, who seem to be okay with not knowing all the facts, who seem to be okay with the president directing witnesses who clearly have information relevant to this inquiry, directing them to not cooperate and testify.”

Nevada Republican state Sen. Greg Brower

True, because he still expects Zalensky to investigate Bidens. You could say that Zalensky basically stiffed him once he got the money.

One other thing to consider is that while most people think Trump will be impeached, few think that he will be removed. This kind of behavior is unlikely to end, especially during an election year when he is going to go full force on digging up dirt. He will see his acquittal (not sure if that's the right word) as vindication, and it is likely to embolden him. All I can say is that there is no limit on how many times a president can be subject to well-deserved impeachment proceedings.

It appears he didn’t really care about a true investigation. He just wanted the public announcement of one because he knows that would be all the conspiracy loving nutfuks in his party needed.

I have not read his yet, but I certainly will. I'm fairly confident that it will contain mostly information that I'm already aware of. I already know enough about what happened to think that impeachment of the President is a moral imperative. This is the official statement of grounds for impeachment.

Defend Our Democracy | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

By the way, what we are seeing now on this thread from the trumpers is an argument technique known as "firehosing". It's not worth even trying to address these folks. I believe it's what happens when a gaslighter goes berzerk with rage and desperation. It's also called the firehose of falsehood. To quote Wikipedia:

That is the funniest thing that you could say. Please tell me what you think the Dems and media have been doing since the first day president Trump got elected. Every single month since the election the media and Dems have used the word impeachment, so don't even say anything about firehosing.

It appears he didn’t really care about a true investigation. He just wanted the public announcement of one because he knows that would be all the conspiracy loving nutfuks in his party needed.

Trump wanted him to publicly bark like a dog. Imagine how that would have affected his credibility in Ukraine and weakened him in the eyes of his Russian adversaries. He would be like Putin's puppet's puppet.

That is the funniest thing that you could say. Please tell me what you think the Dems and media have been doing since the first day president Trump got elected. Every single month since the election the media and Dems have used the word impeachment, so don't even say anything about firehosing.

That's because it's fairly obvious that from the start, Trump did engage in obstruction of justice on numerous occasions. The Mueller report did not exonerate him by any stretch. In fact, if you read between the lines, Mueller essentially said that while the constitution prohibits him from indicting a sitting president, the house might want to consider impeachment. Ukrainegate in and of itself offers more than enough grounds for impeachment in an easy to digest form. The impeachment committee could justifiably add on additional articles uncovered during the Mueller investigation. Apparently they don't think it's necessary. If the Dems have been talking about impeachment from the start, you have no one to blame but the president. What I think is absolutely shameful is that virtually no Republicans have joined in. Anyone who wants to label this impeachment process as unduly partisan should be blaming the Republicans.

One of my biggest questions is that if Mr. Taylor has presented no incriminating information, then why is Trump trying to discredit him and labeling him as a deep state never Trumper?

That is the funniest thing that you could say. Please tell me what you think the Dems and media have been doing since the first day president Trump got elected. Every single month since the election the media and Dems have used the word impeachment, so don't even say anything about firehosing.

I would love to hear something substantive from you. Do you have thoughts? Change my mind

Just watched a news clip from last night covering Republican John Kennedy trashing the "avocado toast eating" elites. This from he who is an Oxford (England) educated, former college debate team member --- can't get too much more elite than that --- and at least in 2004, a DEMOCRAT (this last just like Dump). Such hypocrisy. Yes, I think Dump will be impeached and No I think he will not be removed from office. I hope I am long gone before we become the Soviet States of North America. Sorry for the melodrama but I guess I am reaching my personal breaking point.

Just watched a news clip from last night covering Republican John Kennedy trashing the "avocado toast eating" elites. This from he who is an Oxford (England) educated, former college debate team member --- can't get too much more elite than that --- and at least in 2004, a DEMOCRAT (this last just like Dump). Such hypocrisy. Yes, I think Dump will be impeached and No I think he will not be removed from office. I hope I am long gone before we become the Soviet States of North America. Sorry for the melodrama but I guess I am reaching my personal breaking point.

Educated, informed voters are elitist to republicans. No need to apologize. Please continue to post your thoughts.

Today like everyday in these hearings should be simple, believe a thirty three year career diplomat or a lifelong documented serial liar.

Good grief, trump releases another “summary”of another call. Why not release all “full” transcripts or recordings of all calls and correspondence with Ukraine and order first hand witnesses to testify? You do that when you’re innocent.

Daaayum, real time witness intimidation from trump during live House hearings.