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SoWal Insider
That's the point of the impeachment trial to determine that. That answer didn't take away from the case against Trump bribery and extortion in the slightest. She is there as a material fact witness, not a legal opinion witness.Doesn’t it sometimes make you almost want to give up providing facts to these low info trumpeteers who still think this is a trial?
Beach FanaticAuthor
Doesn’t it sometimes make you almost want to give up providing facts to these low info trumpeteers who still think this is a trial?No, this thread serves as a journal of rational thought if you ignore certain people.
SoWal Insider
No, this thread serves as a journal of rational thought if you ignore certain people.I was being flippant due to frustration my wife is experiencing from her Clampettesque relatives on Facebook. I am so glad I never joined that social media site.
SoWal Insider
Progressives value Taliban and ISIS more than U.S. Military members. Pat Tillman initial investigation ring a bell?No idea what you’re trying to say but this is a typical example of conservative respect for a man who never wanted his identity to be used for propaganda.
SoWal Insider
The “it’s just hearsay defense” just flew out the window. We can now hear what first hand witnesses have to say.
First, Deputy Assistant to the President Timothy Morrison confirmed Ambassador Taylor’s testimony to the Committees that the Ukrainians were told that U.S. military assistance, not just the White House meeting, was conditioned on their public announcement of political investigations that the President wanted. Additionally, following the September 1 meeting between President Zelensky and Vice President Pence, Mr. Morrison confirmed that Ambassador Sondland informed one of President Zelensky’s top aides that American military aid was conditioned on the investigations. Mr. Morrison informed John Bolton of the meeting and was told by Mr. Bolton to go see the lawyers, which he did.
Second, Vice President Pence’s special adviser on Europe and Russia Jennifer Williams testified that the President’s requests were ‘unusual and inappropriate’ and shed light on ‘possible other motivations behind a security assistance hold.’ She also confirmed, like Lt. Col. Vindman, that the Ukrainian President specifically mentioned ‘Burisma’ during the call, even though the White House call record does not reflect that. Importantly, Ms. Williams also testified that in mid-May, President Trump instructed Vice President Pence to cancel plans to attend President Zelensky’s inauguration before the date for the inauguration had been set.
First, Deputy Assistant to the President Timothy Morrison confirmed Ambassador Taylor’s testimony to the Committees that the Ukrainians were told that U.S. military assistance, not just the White House meeting, was conditioned on their public announcement of political investigations that the President wanted. Additionally, following the September 1 meeting between President Zelensky and Vice President Pence, Mr. Morrison confirmed that Ambassador Sondland informed one of President Zelensky’s top aides that American military aid was conditioned on the investigations. Mr. Morrison informed John Bolton of the meeting and was told by Mr. Bolton to go see the lawyers, which he did.
Second, Vice President Pence’s special adviser on Europe and Russia Jennifer Williams testified that the President’s requests were ‘unusual and inappropriate’ and shed light on ‘possible other motivations behind a security assistance hold.’ She also confirmed, like Lt. Col. Vindman, that the Ukrainian President specifically mentioned ‘Burisma’ during the call, even though the White House call record does not reflect that. Importantly, Ms. Williams also testified that in mid-May, President Trump instructed Vice President Pence to cancel plans to attend President Zelensky’s inauguration before the date for the inauguration had been set.
SoWal Insider
trump said she wasn’t allowed to talk. Today George Conway donated the maximum amount allowed, $2,800, to her opponent’s campaign.
Beach Fanatic
Progressives value Taliban and ISIS more than U.S. Military members. Pat Tillman initial investigation ring a bell?I got no clue what Pat Tillman's death had to do with what you are saying. Pat Tillman was killed by friendly fire and for whatever reason the US Army tried to initially cover it up.
SoWal Insider
trump made an unscheduled visit to Walter Reed today. WH remaining tight lipped on whether it was related to bone spurs, foot in mouth, or head up ass.
SoWal Insider
Remember trumpers, you wanted this.
Richard Engel
@RichardEngel
Massive attacks underway against the kurds in northern syria. No ceasefire. Total nonsenses there is. US military officials tell me they are ashamed, “sickened.” It’s cold now outside. What about the families, and kids, out of their homes?
@OARichardEngel
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Richard Engel
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Massive attacks underway against the kurds in northern syria. No ceasefire. Total nonsenses there is. US military officials tell me they are ashamed, “sickened.” It’s cold now outside. What about the families, and kids, out of their homes?
@OARichardEngel
#AmericanBetrayal
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Former top GOP oversight aide calls out Elise Stefanik
Kurt Bardella
@kurtbardella
You’re a liar and if you don’t like the rules you can blame Issa, Chaffwtz, Gowdy, Jordan, Meadows, Pompeo and Castor because they wrote them when they were in the majority. I know because I was at
@GOPoversight
during that time.
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Elise Stefanik
@EliseStefanik
· Nov 15
Once again, Adam Schiff flat out REFUSES to let duly elected Members of Congress ask questions to the witness, simply because we are Republicans. His behavior is acceptable and he continues to abuse his Chairmanship.
Beach Lover
Remember trumpers, you wanted this.Still promoting endless wars! Sad. How many American boys do you want killed in Syria? I’m with Trump, it’s time for the rest of the world to contribute on a fair scale.
Richard Engel
@RichardEngel
Massive attacks underway against the kurds in northern syria. No ceasefire. Total nonsenses there is. US military officials tell me they are ashamed, “sickened.” It’s cold now outside. What about the families, and kids, out of their homes?
@OARichardEngel
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Beach Lover
Remind me when the republicans wrote the impeachment hearing rules? You can’t be that dumb, well maybe!
Kurt Bardella
@kurtbardella
You’re a liar and if you don’t like the rules you can blame Issa, Chaffwtz, Gowdy, Jordan, Meadows, Pompeo and Castor because they wrote them when they were in the majority. I know because I was at
@GOPoversight
during that time.
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Elise Stefanik
@EliseStefanik
· Nov 15
Once again, Adam Schiff flat out REFUSES to let duly elected Members of Congress ask questions to the witness, simply because we are Republicans. His behavior is acceptable and he continues to abuse his Chairmanship.
SoWal Insider
Remind me when the republicans wrote the impeachment hearing rules? You can’t be that dumb, well maybe!I know right wing news keeps you ignorant so be brave, comprehend what you read, and seek knowledge on your own.
Beach FanaticAuthor
These are the words of a republican:
SoWal Insider
Still promoting endless wars! Sad. How many American boys do you want killed in Syria? I’m with Trump, it’s time for the rest of the world to contribute on a fair scale.It’s about allies, and trust. trump abandons and extorts them. Of course you agree with him.
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Progressives value Taliban and ISIS more than U.S. Military members. Pat Tillman initial investigation ring a bell?Do you think Pat Tillman valued ISIS and the Taliban? For your information, he was a progressive.
Trump appropriates the memory of Pat Tillman, a liberal whose widow slammed Trump
Absent from the conversation among conservative circles, however, are Tillman’s personal politics. Those who served with Tillman in Iraq and Afghanistan say he was vehemently against former U.S. president George W. Bush and called the war “so f****ng illegal.” Tillman was also an atheist and maintained correspondence with one of his favorite authors, Noam Chomsky.
After Trump announced the travel ban against majority-Muslim countries, Tillman’s widow took to Facebook to say “this was not the country he dreamed, not what he served and died for.”
National Football League: The inconvenient truth about Patrick Tillman
Unfortunately for the Bush administration, Tillman possessed other character traits that were soon to prove an embarrassment. He was an atheist, a liberal and a thinker. He also had an insatiable appetite for knowledge and a good nose for the truth. He quickly realised that the invasion of Iraq was a criminal act based on lies. "This war is so f****ng illegal!" he told a friend while in Iraq in 2003.
Way too decent and smart to be a poster boy for the war, Tillman became an increasingly vocal critic of it, and had arranged to meet with anti-war intellectual Noam Chomsky after his tour of Afghanistan in 2004.
Beach FanaticAuthor
Let's give credit to the impeachment proceedings.
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Beach Lover
It’s about allies, and trust. trump abandons and extorts them. Of course you agree with him.Why shouldn’t our allies pay their fair share?
SoWal Insider
Why shouldn’t our allies pay their fair share?It must suck to be one of your friends. When they need help what do you demand first? Money, a favor, sleep with their spouse? It doesn’t take long before they begin to question your friendship as we are witnessing in American allies.
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Beach Lover
Do you think Pat Tillman valued ISIS and the Taliban? For your information, he was a progressive.
Vette12
Who cares what Tillman’s politics were. I was specifically addressing the initial
Investigation into his death, Not Tillman. Good deflection though. The Army tried to hide the fact that he was killed by friendly fire. My comments were in response to members on this board slamming Trump for granting clemency to our brave soldiers. Unfortunately, our military justice system does not have the best track record
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SoWal Insider
So now in addition to the FBI, CIA, NSA, Foreign Service, a free press, etc, trumpers are now becoming anti-military?
SoWal Insider
Remind me when the republicans wrote the impeachment hearing rules? You can’t be that dumb, well maybe!I have reconsidered asking you to seek facts on your own because I know damn well you would rather remain ignorant so here are some links to explain the rules being followed. It will require some effort on your part meaning you have to physically click on them. I hope this isn’t too much to ask as we are tiring of having to constantly educate trumpers. Please realize all the biching and moaning you hear from the right is simply outright lying.
The powerful weapon House Republicans handed Democrats
House Republicans Complain About Rules They Approved In 2015 - The National Memo
Fox legal analyst explains to stunned FOX & Friends GOP wrote the ‘secretive’ impeachment rules they now object to
Republicans May Regret House Rule Change
Beach Lover
So now in addition to the FBI, CIA, NSA, Foreign Service, a free press, etc, trumpers are now becoming anti-military?
Nobody or organization is above the law and should be held accountable for corruption.
SoWal Insider
Nobody or organization is above the law and should be held accountable for corruption.I guess you’re including the lying extortionist in the White House. What is a country to do when their lawmakers ignore all evidence of guilt? Have we not just become that which we fight against and demand of other nations?
SoWal Insider
The no press briefing WH Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham claims it’s dangerous for the country to question her honesty. This is some real North Korean style propaganda bullsht.
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