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Not a single person my age has a longer record of being affiliated with the Republican Party. Since birth. My dad was on the RNC. I was YR state chair. I worked for a GOP Approps Chair. Today, tho, I am sickened to be a Republican. DC GOP=rank dishonesty, hypocrisy.
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#5253
Trump stops short of physically threatening Adam Schiff

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#5254
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#5255
Trump's trade war is hurting China's economy, but it's giving Beijing an opportunity it never dreamed of

That is why some in China's community of think tanks and scholars believe that, in some ways, Trump benefits China. One former US State Department official with experience in East Asia, who spoke with Business Insider on condition of anonymity, said that, long term, there are four main reasons some in China think Trump is useful.
  1. He damages alliances.
  2. He damages US credibility and standing.
  3. He's taking the US out of the multilateral game.
  4. He's damaging long-term US economic competitiveness.

Trump is correct to say that the Chinese economy is slowing down, but there is little evidence to support his assertion that Beijing is "dying" to make a deal anytime soon.

For months, Chinese economic data has been trending down, but it's only in the past few week that policymakers have slightly lowered key interest rates to keep money flowing through the economy.
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#5256
Navy Secretary resigns
As Secretary of the Navy, one of the most important responsibilities I have to our people is to maintain good order and discipline throughout the ranks,” Mr. Spencer wrote in his resignation letter, a copy of which was provided by him to The Wall Street Journal. “I regard this as deadly serious business,” he wrote.

“Unfortunately, it has become apparent that in this respect, I no longer share the same understanding with the Commander in Chief who appointed me, in regards to the key principle of good order and discipline.”
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#5257
Systematic decimation of every branch of our government.
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#5259
Senate Republicans are setting a dangerous precedent that threatens the republic itself. I'm not naive enough to think they would hold Democratic presidents to the low standard they've applied to Trump, but all future presidents will be able to point to Trump to justify:


Thread by @waltshaub: "1/ Senate Republicans are setting a dangerous precedent that threatens the republic itself. I'm not naive enough to think they would hold De […]"

a. Soliciting foreign attacks on our elections;
b. Using federal appropriations or other resources to pressure foreign governments to help them win reelection;
c. Implementing an across-the-board refusal to comply with any congressional oversight at all;
d. Firing the heads of the government's top law enforcement agencies for allowing investigations of the president;
e. Retaliating against whistleblowers and witnesses who testify before Congress;
f. Investigating investigators who investigate the president;
g. Attempting to retaliate against American companies perceived as insufficiently supportive of the president;
h. Attempting to award the president's own company federal contracts;
i. Using personal devices, servers or applications for official communications;
j. Communicating secretly with foreign leaders, with foreign governments knowing things about White House communications that our own government doesn't know;
k. Abandoning steadfast allies abruptly without prior warning to Congress to cede territory to Russian influence;
l. Destroying or concealing records containing politically damaging information;
m. Employing white nationalists and expressing empathy for white nationalists after an armed rally in which one of them murdered a counter protester and another shot a gun into a crowd;
n. Disseminating Russian disinformation;
o. Covering for the murder of a journalist working for an American news outlet by a foreign government that is a major customer of the president's private business;
p. Violating human rights and international law at our border;
q. Operating a supposed charity that was forced to shut down over its unlawful activities;
r. Lying incessantly to the American people;
s. Relentlessly attacking the free press;
t. Spending 1/4 of days in office visiting his own golf courses and 1/3 of them visiting his private businesses;
u. Violating the Emoluments Clauses of the U.S. Constitution;
w. Misusing the security clearance process to benefit his children and target perceived enemies;
x. Drawing down on government efforts to combat domestic terrorism in order to appease a segment of his base;
y. Refusing to aggressively investigate and build defenses against interference in our election by Russia, after the country helped him win an election;
z. Engaging in a documented campaign of obstruction of a Special Counsel's investigation.
aa. Lying about a hush money payoff and omitting his debt to his attorney for that payoff from his financial disclosure report (which is a crime if done knowingly and wilfully);
bb. Coordinating with his attorney in connection with activities that got the attorney convicted of criminal campaign finance violations;
cc. Interfering in career personnel actions, which are required by law to be conducted free of political influence;
dd. Refusing to fire a repeat Hatch Act offender after receiving a recommendation of termination from the president's own Senate-confirmed appointee based on dozens of violations;
ee. Calling members of Congress names and accusing them of treason for conducting oversight;
ff. Attacking states and private citizens frequently and in terms that demean the presidency (see Johnson impeachment);
gg. Using the presidency to tout his private businesses and effectively encouraging a party, candidates, businesses and others to patronize his business;
hh. Causing the federal government to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars at his businesses and costing the American taxpayers well over $100 million on boondoggle trips to visit his properties;
ii. Hosting foreign leaders at his private businesses;
jj. Calling on the Justice Department to investigate political rivals;
kk. Using the presidency to endorse private businesses and the books of various authors as a reward for supporting the president;
ll. Engaging in nepotism based on a flawed OLC opinion;
mm. Possible misuse of appropriated funds by reallocating them in ways that may be illegal;
nn. Repeatedly criticizing American allies, supporting authoritarian leaders around the world, and undermining NATO; and
oo. etc.



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And this is only what Trump did while the remote threat of Congressional oversight existed. If the Senate acquits him, he will know for certain there is nothing that could ever lead to Congress removing him from office. And what he does next will similarly set precedents.


Walter Shaub

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At this point, I would remind these unpatriotic Senators of the line "you have a republic if you can keep it," but a variation on this line may soon be more apt when Trump redoubles his attack on our election: You have a republic, if you can call this a republic.


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Emerald Drifter avatar
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#5260
When Democrats gain control the result is the Systematic decimation of every branch of our government.

Fixed it. Thank you for the softball. That sound of really connecting with the ball!
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#5261
It's going to be interesting to see what happens over the next 60 days. McConnell, Trump, Pence.

Three Amigos (playing nice), what do you think will actually happen regarding Trump? (not what you really really want). What will happen? Will the Senate vote and remove him? Will the House impeach and it dies in the Senate and Trump remain in office?

I have seen a theory bandied about that I can see happening. McConnell basically tells Trump that they have the votes to remove him. Rather than Trump allow himself to be ousted, he cuts a smoke filled room deal, resigns due to medical reasons, Pence assumes POTUS, and McConnell staves off many 2020 blue team victories. Trump gets to claim he brought America back before the dollar/economy crashes, goes down to Mar-A-Lago and gets back to being king of his world.

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It's going to be interesting to see what happens over the next 60 days. McConnell, Trump, Pence.

Three Amigos (playing nice), what do you think will actually happen regarding Trump? (not what you really really want). What will happen? Will the Senate vote and remove him? Will the House impeach and it dies in the Senate and Trump remain in office?

I have seen a theory bandied about that I can see happening. McConnell basically tells Trump that they have the votes to remove him. Rather than Trump allow himself to be ousted, he cuts a smoke filled room deal, resigns due to medical reasons, Pence assumes POTUS, and McConnell staves off many 2020 blue team victories. Trump gets to claim he brought America back before the dollar/economy crashes, goes down to Mar-A-Lago and gets back to being king of his world.
....and then the SDNY indicts, convicts, and imprisons. I’ll take that.
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#5263
Stated simply, the primary takeaway from the past 250 years of recorded American history is that Presidents are not kings. This means that they do not have subjects, bound by loyalty or blood, whose destiny they are entitled to control. Rather, in this land of liberty, it is indisputable that current and former employees of the White House work for the People of the United States, and that they take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Moreover, as citizens of the United States, current and former senior-level presidential aides have constitutional rights, including the right to free speech, and they retain these rights even after they have transitioned back into private life.”
U.S. District Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson
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#5264
This is not a joke:doh:
"I'm curious why wasn't it done a long time ago? And also, I guess the answer to that is because now I'm president, we get things done
President Trump signs the Woman's Suffrage Centennial Coin Act.
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#5265
Fixed it. Thank you for the softball. That sound of really connecting with the ball!
Does it really seem like a good idea to fire the Secretary of the Navy for trying to ethically discipline his men?
Bob Wells avatar
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#5266
Does it really seem like a good idea to fire the Secretary of the Navy for trying to ethically discipline his men?
If the President wants you in lock step for all his whims, Yes Yes it is a good idea. I have and still do believe that most involved in politics lack a certain amount of ethics and that their ethics are determined by how it will affect them personally and effect the party generally. If the President basically gets a pass for all this shadiness that has occurred it will just get worse in the future because a new set of ethics and morals has been established for the "Ruling Class". IMO if the impeachment fails, which I believe it will, whoever is elected President will not be held to any recognizable standard and it will be us the voters fault.
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#5267
If the President wants you in lock step for all his whims, Yes Yes it is a good idea. I have and still do believe that most involved in politics lack a certain amount of ethics and that their ethics are determined by how it will affect them personally and effect the party generally. If the President basically gets a pass for all this shadiness that has occurred it will just get worse in the future because a new set of ethics and morals has been established for the "Ruling Class". IMO if the impeachment fails, which I believe it will, whoever is elected President will not be held to any recognizable standard and it will be us the voters fault.
I’m not sure you understand what I was saying. The Secretary of the Navy was fired because he felt like it was necessary to discipline one of his men. The president said it wasn’t necessary for this man to be discipline. If it’s left up to this president or any other president to decide the discipline or lack of discipline that is enforced in the military, we have the complete unraveling of unity it our armed forces.
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I myself have often wondered why we didn't have a 94th anniversary of women's suffrage coin back in 2013.

Trump: Why Wasn’t 100th Anniversary of Women’s Suffrage Observed ‘Years Ago?’

After working his way through the prepared remarks, Trump interjected with his own riff. “They’ve been working on this for years and years,” he said, suddenly wondering, “And I’m curious, why wasn’t it done a long time ago, and also — well, I guess the answer to that is because now I’m president, and we get things done. We get a lot of things done that nobody else got done.”
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#5269
Breaking point (mine) met last week. Yes, by all means, Trump base, support the man. Don't hold him to a higher standard or any standard at all. When the economy tanks, and it will, when Russia, Iran and China interfere in U.S. elections, and they will, when the Affordable Care Act (a SOCIAList program) is repealed without a replacement, when Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, food stamps, free or low-cost health clinics/screenings (all SOCIAList programs) are plundered or dissolved, when Worker's Comp (another SOCIAList program) ceases to exist, when so many additional places around the world will not welcome Americans, when you can't afford to help yourself or your kids graduate from high school (another SOCIAList program - education K-12 for the masses) never mind help them with the $$$$$$ to go to college, when your parents and or children have to wear face masks to (hardly) protect against particulate matter in the air, when there's lead, poop and chromium hexavalent in the water the only thing left in the US will be a massive military controlled not by vetted military leaders but by a misinformed, misguided (being nice) person (being nicer still) with narcissist and sociopathic characteristics whose aim appears to be to rule the world and the people in it alongside his idol Vlad Putin. In the end (and yes, undeterred this path tilts us toward the beginning of the end) the joke's on Trump. Even though Trump may effectively destroy what we, as Americans, have taken so for granted, Putin does not share. Russia does not share. PERIOD. Not voting to impeach and remove this subversive, "bad actor" Trump assures our fate as a considerably less free people. I'll be long dead, what about you?

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I’m not sure you understand what I was saying. The Secretary of the Navy was fired because he felt like it was necessary to discipline one of his men. The president said it wasn’t necessary for this man to be discipline. If it’s left up to this president or any other president to decide the discipline or lack of discipline that is enforced in the military, we have the complete unraveling of unity it our armed forces.
I agree with you. I see I just went on a rabbit trail.
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#5272
Does it really seem like a good idea to fire the Secretary of the Navy for trying to ethically discipline his men?

Getting back to basics here. The President is the Commander in Chief. He can hire and fire whoever he wants to.
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#5273
Getting back to basics here. The President is the Commander in Chief. He can hire and fire whoever he wants to.
So, you are against discipline. It’s ok to mutilate the corpse of an enemy and get away with it. It doesn’t matter. Correct?
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#5274
Getting back to basics here. The President is the Commander in Chief. He can hire and fire whoever he wants to.
He asked if it was a good idea.
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#5275
Getting back to basics here. The President is the Commander in Chief. He can hire and fire whoever he wants to.
No, he can’t. Thankfully there is a limited number of people he can abuse.
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#5276
Getting back to basics here. The President is the Commander in Chief. He can hire and fire whoever he wants to.
The President can be fired on a whim too.

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