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FdxUsmc avatar
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#6952
Leading demorat says quarantining for Covid-19 doesn’t work! :banging:Why believe the experts who talk all that science mombo jumbo!:clap:
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#6953
Wrong, Not replacing is not the same as firing! It’s ok, the adults are in charge now.

Just because Ziemer’s position was discontinued does not mean everyone who was part of the team was fired or that all of the functions of the directorate ceased. According to reporting by the Atlantic and the Washington Post, some team members were shifted to other groups, and others took over some of Ziemer’s duties. An NSC spokesman at the time said that the administration “remains committed to global health, global health security and biodefense, and will continue to address these issues with the same resolve under the new structure.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...a-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html?outputType=amp

Did Trump Administration Fire the US Pandemic Response Team?
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#6955
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:blink:This from the guy whose only source is the Daily Caller? Let’s see you credibly refute it. :popcorn:
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SoWal Insider
#6956
Wrong, Not replacing is not the same as firing! It’s ok, the adults are in charge now.

Just because Ziemer’s position was discontinued does not mean everyone who was part of the team was fired or that all of the functions of the directorate ceased. According to reporting by the Atlantic and the Washington Post, some team members were shifted to other groups, and others took over some of Ziemer’s duties. An NSC spokesman at the time said that the administration “remains committed to global health, global health security and biodefense, and will continue to address these issues with the same resolve under the new structure.”
Excuse me, but the thing that was called the "pandemic response team" no longer existed after this re-structuring. Keep tap dancing, but it surely does seem like it would have been a good idea to have a pandemic response team in place when a pandemic occurs. Also, under the current president's response to this pandemic, we have had about 7,000 people tested in the USA. South Korea has had over 10,000 people tested PER DAY. We are now a third world country when it comes to pandemic response.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#6957
Did he announce a bailout for his struggling hotels and golf courses?
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#6959
Mr. “I alone can fix it” is now “No, I don’t take responsibility for it at all.”
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#6961
President Trump declares COVID-19 pandemic a national emergency

President trump Declares a national emergency after 41 US deaths from Covid-19.

How many Americans over 1000 died before Obummer declared a national emergency for H1N1?
I don’t believe there were ever any Americans over 1000. There are a few who manage to live past 100.
Beach Lover
#6962
I don’t believe there were ever any Americans over 1000. There are a few who manage to live past 100.
:floor: How many deaths over 1000? 1001, 3500....

I’ll help with Obummer’s cdc #s


The Numbers
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  • CDC estimates that between 14 million and 34 million cases of 2009 H1N1 occurred between April and October 17, 2009. The mid-level in this range is about 22 million people infected with 2009 H1N1.
  • CDC estimates that between about 63,000 and 153,000 2009 H1N1-related hospitalizations occurred between April and October 17, 2009. The mid-level in this range is about 98,000 H1N1-related hospitalizations.
  • CDC estimates that between about 2,500 and 6,000 2009 H1N1-related deaths occurred between April and October 17, 2009. The mid-level in this range is about 3,900 2009 H1N1-related deaths.

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PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#6963
:floor: How many deaths over 1000, Poppaj?1001, 3500....

I’ll help with Obummer’s cdc #s


The Numbers
(Print table )
  • CDC estimates that between 14 million and 34 million cases of 2009 H1N1 occurred between April and October 17, 2009. The mid-level in this range is about 22 million people infected with 2009 H1N1.
  • CDC estimates that between about 63,000 and 153,000 2009 H1N1-related hospitalizations occurred between April and October 17, 2009. The mid-level in this range is about 98,000 H1N1-related hospitalizations.
  • CDC estimates that between about 2,500 and 6,000 2009 H1N1-related deaths occurred between April and October 17, 2009. The mid-level in this range is about 3,900 2009 H1N1-related deaths.
Oh, you weren’t talking about age?
How many people has trump let die of the flu this season alone and not declared a national emergency? Huh? Huh? Huh? The man is a serial killer.
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Beach Fanatic
#6965
Oh, you weren’t talking about age?
How many people has trump let die of the flu this season alone and not declared a national emergency? Huh? Huh? Huh? The man is a serial killer.
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Silly me, I thought we were talking about administrations responses to pandemics
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PoppaJ avatar
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#6966
:floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor::floor:
Silly me, I thought we were talking about administration’s responses to pandemics
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It’s a Democratic hoax and you’re falling for the fake hysteria.:clap:
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#6967
It’s a Democratic hoax and you’re falling for the fake hysteria.:clap:
Even the libtard’s beloved snopes says Trump didn’t call Covid-19 a hoax:floor:
What's False
Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax.
In context, Trump did not say in the passage above that the virus itself was a hoax. He instead said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax.

Did President Trump Refer to the Coronavirus as a 'Hoax'?
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#6968
Even the libtard’s beloved snopes says Trump didn’t call Covid-19 a hoax:floor:
What's False
Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax.
In context, Trump did not say in the passage above that the virus itself was a hoax. He instead said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax.
Did President Trump Refer to the Coronavirus as a 'Hoax'?
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Beach Fanatic
#6970
Trump is a carnival barker. The scoreboard isn't just Wall St. You see how he has been in hiding since Wall St has been pummeled by this "hoax" virus. He inherited a booming economy....please prove me wrong. His big, beautiful healthcare program replacing the "horrible" Obamacare is non-existent. The guy is a narcissistic, uneducated fuckboy who inherited everything he has and has been a perpetual "disaster" and cost the US taxpayers billions of dollars from his failures....prove me f****ng wrong.

The only "hoax" is the lifelong Democrat saw an opportunity to get to the White House because my party turned into a bunch of simpletons who jack off with their guns, cheap beer and bad beards listening to f****ng hillbilly music while groping their sisters.

Scoreboard that you f****ng miscreants.
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SoWal Insider
#6971
Gavin Newsom Praises Trump Administration’s Response To Coronavirus
California got incomplete coronavirus test kits – the governor says it's like getting printers with no ink

"The test kits do not include in every case the RNA extraction kits, the reagents, the chemicals, the solutions that are components of the broader tests," he said. "I think it's very much in line with your going to the store and purchasing a printer but forgetting to purchase the ink."

"I am surprised this is not more of the national conversation," Newsom told reporters, as he cautioned that inadequate testing capabilities would likely be a problem for other states as well. "They are improving, but there are still challenges and we need to own up to that, and we need to be forthright and honest about what those are."
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#6972
What Mr. Trump Said

“I don’t take responsibility at all because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time.”

False. The Food and Drug Administration issued a “draft guidance” in 2014 in which it sought to extend its authority to regulate laboratory-developed tests. But it’s wrong to blame that effort for the scattered and insufficient delivery of coronavirus tests as the guidance was not particularly relevant to emergency situations and was never finalized or generally enforced.

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What Mr. Trump Said

“If you go back to the swine flu, it was nothing like this. They didn’t do testing like this, and actually they lost approximately 14,000 people, and they didn’t do the testing. They started thinking about testing when it was far too late.”

False. This is blatantly wrong. Diagnostic tests for the swine flu were approved and shipped out less than two weeks after the H1N1 virus was identified and a day before the first death in the United States. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention identified the first case of the virus on April 14, 2009. The Obama administration declared swine flu a public health emergency on April 26. The Food and Drug Administration approved a rapid test for the virus two days later. At the time, the C.D.C. had reported 64 cases and zero deaths. The C.D.C. began shipping test kits to public health laboratories on May 1 (at 141 cases and one death) and a second test was approved in July. From May to September 2009, the agency shipped more than 1,000 kits, each one able to test 1,000 specimens.

Trump’s False Claims About His Response to the Coronavirus
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#6973
It appears Mar-a-Lago is now a petri dish for the coronavirus.
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SoWal Insider
#6975
America Is a Sham

Policy changes in reaction to the coronavirus reveal how absurd so many of our rules are to begin with.

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