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Cotton continued, “Let me give you one example of Beijing’s treachery. On January 23rd, they shut down air travel from Wuhan to every other Chinese city – couldn’t go to Beijing, couldn’t go to Shanghai, couldn’t go to Shenzhen, but you could still travel to any city around the world with direct flights from Wuhan to include New York and San Francisco. That meant that thousands of cases were being seeded all around the world before the W.H.O. and China were even acknowledging human to human transmission. China was looking out for its own people by shutting down domestic travel while continuing to let this virus spread all around the world.”

Senator Cotton On China: ‘It’s Time To Start Delinking Our Two Economies’
How does any of this blame shifting excuse trump’s ignoring early intel, delayed response, inadequate supplies, and constant lying? You still haven’t answered my question about what his plan was at the SOTU.
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#7503
How does any of this blame shifting excuse trump’s ignoring early intel, delayed response, inadequate supplies, and constant lying? You still haven’t answered my question about what his plan was at the SOTU.
The idea that Trump ignored warnings or that Trump reacted late or that Trump over-reacted and carelessly destroyed our economy: these are all the whiny assertions of irresponsible children.

We are always being warned about everything. Pandemics, pulse bombs, earthquakes. We have business to take care of. We prepare where we can. Trump reacted quickly given the misinformation we were getting from China and WHO. He stopped travel from China when Joe Biden and the rest of the Left called him names for it. Even the governors who hate him admit he has responded to their calls.
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#7504
How does any of this blame shifting excuse trump’s ignoring early intel, delayed response, inadequate supplies, and constant lying? You still haven’t answered my question about what his plan was at the SOTU.
On February 4, President Trump delivered his State of the Union Address, during which he addressed the threat to America from the coronavirus, asserting, “Protecting Americans’ health also means fighting infectious diseases. We are coordinating with the Chinese government and working closely together on the coronavirus outbreak in China. My administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from this threat.”

While Trump was addressing problems facing the nation, House Speaker was fuming; as soon as Trump finished speaking she tore the printed copy of the speech up. Later, when she was asked why she did so, considering she had admonished Democrats to act with dignity, she snapped, “I tore up a manifesto of mistruths
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#7505
On February 4, President Trump delivered his State of the Union Address, during which he addressed the threat to America from the coronavirus, asserting, “Protecting Americans’ health also means fighting infectious diseases. We are coordinating with the Chinese government and working closely together on the coronavirus outbreak in China. My administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from this threat.”

While Trump was addressing problems facing the nation, House Speaker was fuming; as soon as Trump finished speaking she tore the printed copy of the speech up. Later, when she was asked why she did so, considering she had admonished Democrats to act with dignity, she snapped, “I tore up a manifesto of mistruths
:lol: What does ripping his manifesto of lies have to do with a plan? Again, besides spin and bullsht what was his plan?:popcorn:

To help you I listed some of his statements after the SOTU. Doesn’t sound like he was taking it too seriously. Just a bunch of happy talk and wishful thinking. I didn’t even list any from March.


Feb. 7: “Nothing is easy, but [Chinese President Xi Jinping] … will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone.”

Feb. 10
: “I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine.”

Feb. 14: “We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.”


Feb. 19: “I think it’s going to work out fine. I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus. So let’s see what happens, but I think it’s going to work out fine.”

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. … Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

Feb. 25: “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re all getting better. … As far as what we’re doing with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job.”

Feb. 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus, including the very early closing of our borders to certain areas of the world.”

Feb. 26: “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low. … When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."


Feb. 26:

Q: This is spreading — or is going to spread, maybe, within communities. That’s the expectation.
A: It may. It may.
Q: Does that worry you?
A: No. ... No, because we’re ready for it. It is what it is. We’re ready for it. We’re really prepared. ... We hope it doesn’t spread. There’s a chance that it won’t spread too, and there’s a chance that it will, and then it’s a question of at what level.


Feb. 27: “Only a very small number in U.S., & China numbers look to be going down. All countries working well together!”


Feb. 28: “I think it’s really going well. We did something very fortunate: we closed up to certain areas of the world very, very early — far earlier than we were supposed to. I took a lot of heat for doing it. It turned out to be the right move, and we only have 15 people and they are getting better, and hopefully they’re all better. There’s one who is quite sick, but maybe he’s gonna be fine. … We’re prepared for the worst, but we think we’re going to be very fortunate."


Feb. 28: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

Feb. 29: “We’re the number one travel destination anywhere in the world, yet we have far fewer cases of the disease than even countries with much less travel or a much smaller population.”
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#7507
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#7508
:lol: What does ripping his manifesto of lies have to do with a plan? Again, besides spin and bullsht what was his plan?:popcorn:

To help you I listed some of his statements after the SOTU. Doesn’t sound like he was taking it too seriously. Just a bunch of happy talk and wishful thinking. I didn’t even list any from March.


Feb. 7: “Nothing is easy, but [Chinese President Xi Jinping] … will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone.”

Feb. 10
: “I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine.”

Feb. 14: “We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.”


Feb. 19: “I think it’s going to work out fine. I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus. So let’s see what happens, but I think it’s going to work out fine.”

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. … Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

Feb. 25: “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re all getting better. … As far as what we’re doing with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job.”

Feb. 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus, including the very early closing of our borders to certain areas of the world.”

Feb. 26: “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low. … When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."


Feb. 26:

Q: This is spreading — or is going to spread, maybe, within communities. That’s the expectation.
A: It may. It may.
Q: Does that worry you?
A: No. ... No, because we’re ready for it. It is what it is. We’re ready for it. We’re really prepared. ... We hope it doesn’t spread. There’s a chance that it won’t spread too, and there’s a chance that it will, and then it’s a question of at what level.


Feb. 27: “Only a very small number in U.S., & China numbers look to be going down. All countries working well together!”


Feb. 28: “I think it’s really going well. We did something very fortunate: we closed up to certain areas of the world very, very early — far earlier than we were supposed to. I took a lot of heat for doing it. It turned out to be the right move, and we only have 15 people and they are getting better, and hopefully they’re all better. There’s one who is quite sick, but maybe he’s gonna be fine. … We’re prepared for the worst, but we think we’re going to be very fortunate."


Feb. 28: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

Feb. 29: “We’re the number one travel destination anywhere in the world, yet we have far fewer cases of the disease than even countries with much less travel or a much smaller population.”
You do realize China and WHO were lying? The blames needs to fall on China and they must pay. Trump will make them pay. Beijing Biden would never hold them accountable, especially if billion dollar contracts for Hunter are available :dunno:
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#7509
You do realize China and WHO were lying? The blames needs to fall on China and they must pay. Trump will make them pay. Beijing Biden would never hold them accountable, especially if billion dollar contracts for Hunter are available :dunno:
Wow and trump was telling the truth and working really really hard. Not golfing, tweeting, rallying, or watching tv.:lol:
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#7510
How does any of this blame shifting excuse trump’s ignoring early intel, delayed response, inadequate supplies, and constant lying? You still haven’t answered my question about what his plan was at the SOTU.

It would be if when Pearl Harbor got attacked, we did nothing and said the attack wasn't our fault. We'll just blame the Japanese, and if we fail, at least we are off the hook.
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#7511
It would be if when Pearl Harbor got attacked, we did nothing and said the attack wasn't our fault. We'll just blame the Japanese, and if we fail, at least we are off the hook.
:blink: Anybody else get this?
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#7512

Fine, and if I want to find the latest useful scientific information on COVID-19, I'm going to search on "COVID-19". You can continue to search on "Kung flu".
Beach Lover
#7513
You do realize China and WHO were lying? The blames needs to fall on China and they must pay. Trump will make them pay. Beijing Biden would never hold them accountable, especially if billion dollar contracts for Hunter are available :dunno:

He was not personally profiting from it, couldn't figure out how to grift it..... out it goes!
Trump administration shuttered pandemic monitoring program, then scrambled to extend it - CNNPolitics
When the going gets tough trump plays golf!!
As Virus Fears Mounted, Trump Scheduled Only 9 Intelligence Briefings In January | HuffPost
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#7515
Trump threatened to veto stimulus package if it contained bailout money for USPS: report

It looks like trump is purposely tying to kill the postal service and 600,000+ jobs because he fears mail in ballots.

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Republicans should fight very hard when it comes to state wide mail-in voting. Democrats are clamoring for it. Tremendous potential for voter fraud, and for whatever reason, doesn’t work out well for Republicans. @foxandfriends

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#7516
:lolabove: The medicine is being “stolen” from those who need it now! I thought you wanted “all people to be treated equally.” Why do you hate Lupus sufferers?

Lupus and arthritis patients facing hydroxychloroquine shortage - CNN

Okay, to be fair here, you criticized using chloroquine for Coronavirus because it is an antimalarial, but it was discovered years ago to be effective for Lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. So at that point would you have said "why do you hate Malaria patients?"
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#7517
Okay, to be fair here, you criticized using chloroquine for Coronavirus because it is an antimalarial, but it was discovered years ago to be effective for Lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. So at that point would you have said "why do you hate Malaria patients?"
If lupus and RA patients were hoarding it causing a shortage for malaria sufferers then yes.

Edit: I notice Fedx put a like to your post which is surprising because in a previous post on healthcare he insisted all people should be “treated equally.” I guess he now believes in picking winners and losers when it comes to diseases and human suffering, a position conservatives have embraced for decades.

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Beach Fanatic
#7518
If lupus and RA patients were hoarding it causing a shortage for malaria sufferers then yes.

The point is two fold, one maybe it works for Coronavirus in some people, mixed results, but they are using the combo in NYC and other places. Two, there was a shortage for a few weeks, I do not believe it is an issue now according to my neighbor who is a doctor.

Why cheeto wanted to stockpile 29 million doses is beyond me. Remdisivir seems to be working better.
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#7519
Wow and trump was telling the truth and working really really hard. Not golfing, tweeting, rallying, or watching tv.:lol:
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#7520
The point is two fold, one maybe it works for Coronavirus in some people, mixed results, but they are using the combo in NYC and other places. Two, there was a shortage for a few weeks, I do not believe it is an issue now according to my neighbor who is a doctor.

Why cheeto wanted to stockpile 29 million doses is beyond me. Remdisivir seems to be working better.
So what? The fact is there was a shortage and prices spiked because a carnival barking snake oil salesman said he had a feeling it was a miracle cure based on, at best, anecdotal evidence.
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Beach Fanatic
#7521
Anderson Cooper 360° (@AC360) Tweeted:
California Governor Gavin Newsom offers strong praise for Pres. Trump’s handling of the coronavirus in relation to his state saying, “every single direct request that he was capable of meeting, he has met... I have to be complimentary, otherwise I would be simply lying to you.” Anderson Cooper 360° on Twitter

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#7522
Anderson Cooper 360° (@AC360) Tweeted:
California Governor Gavin Newsom offers strong praise for Pres. Trump’s handling of the coronavirus in relation to his state saying, “every single direct request that he was capable of meeting, he has met... I have to be complimentary, otherwise I would be simply lying to you.” Anderson Cooper 360° on Twitter

Thank you!:clap:This is a perfect example of why we need experienced politicians in political positions.
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Beach Fanatic
#7523
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#7525
How many Ebolians, Mersites, West Nilians or Zikians have you encountered in your lifetime? Carry on celebrating your racism.
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#7526
US's global reputation hits rock-bottom over Trump's coronavirus response

Trump has ignored impassioned calls to create a Covid-19 global taskforce or coalition. He appears oblivious to the catastrophe bearing down on millions of people in the developing world.

“Trump’s battle against multilateralism has made it so that even formats like the G7 are no longer working,” commented Christoph Schult in Der Spiegel. “It appears the coronavirus is destroying the last vestiges of a world order.”

Trump’s surreal televised Covid-19 briefingsare further undermining respect for US leadership. Trump regularly propagates false or misleading information, bets on hunches, argues with reporters and contradicts scientific and medical experts.

While publicly rejecting foreign help, Trump has privately asked European and Asian allies for aid – even those, such as South Korea, that he previously berated. And he continues to smear the World Health Organization in a transparent quest for scapegoats.

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