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Forbes magazine reports that United States manufacturers are, in fact, pulling their operations from China amid concerns that the country lied about the origins of the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, and hid key information from the U.S. and other countries about the true impact of the virus, including the country’s death count.

An initial exodus of manufacturing, the report says, began because of an impending trade war, and because of a lack of cooperation by Chinese authorities in resolving what the White House labeled a “trade imbalance.” Experts now expect the exodus to continue because of the pandemic.

America first!
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#7529
Get with the times, we already did in 2016. MAGA
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#7531
Get with the times, we already did in 2016. MAGA

Being from NY I read the TIMES & have for over 50 years.
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#7532
Really, this is opinion on Joe's part, and I don't consider Joe to be a good judge of character, mental state, or anything for that matter. He has been whimsical and out of touch with reality on a lot of issues. He has engaged in magical thinking fairly regularly. Possibly chalk that up to the LSD, mushrooms, dimethyltryptamine, large dose of edible cannabis, and sharp blows to the head. He is an interesting character, but I don't value his opinions, and in my opinion, nor should anyone. He's a better man when he gets an intervention from Sam Harris or Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
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#7533
demtenjeep

If Trump were Captain of the Titanic


If Trump were Captain of Titanic ;

- There isn't any iceberg

- It’s a fake iceberg

- There was an iceberg but it's in a totally different ocean

- People say it's the biggest iceberg

- The iceberg is in this ocean but it will melt very soon

- There is an iceberg but we didn't hit the iceberg

- We hit the iceberg, but the damage will be repaired very shortly

- I knew from the beggining there was an iceberg, long before people called it an iceberg

- The iceberg is a Chinese iceberg

- We are taking on water but every passenger who wants a lifeboat can get a lifeboat, and they are beautiful lifeboats

- Look, passengers need to ask nicely for the lifeboats if they want them

- We don't have any lifeboats, we're not lifeboat distributors

- Passengers should have planned for icebergs and brought their own lifeboats
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#7534
WASHINGTON — Top White House advisers as well as experts deep in the cabinet departments and intelligence agencies all sounded alarms and urged aggressive action to counter the threat from the coronavirus, but President Trump remained slow to respond, a detailed examination of the government’s response found.

Five Takeaways on What Trump Knew as the Virus Spread
Below are 7 things that Biden called on Trump to do that Trump already did:

1. Biden called for coronavirus tests to be free 9 days after Trump signed the Families First Coronavirus Response Act:

  • On March 27, Biden said during an interview on CNN that “the cost of the test should be absolutely zero for you.”
  • On March 18, Trump signed the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, which provided free coronavirus testing.
2. Biden called for coronavirus testing to be available nationwide 12 days after Trump announced that testing was available in all 50 states:
  • On March 27, Biden said during an interview on CNN that testing “should be able to be available nationwide, and that should have been right from the get-go a objective of the administration.”
  • On March 15, Trump announced during a press conference that “testing is now available in all 50 states.”
3. Biden called for “cooperation” between the federal government and the states after numerous Democrat governors praised Trump for his work with them:

  • On March 27, while talking on CNN about how Trump is supposed to be working with governors, Biden said, “I mean, this is — there’s supposed to be cooperation here. I mean, this has nothing to do with politics. And it really — it really doesn’t. It really doesn’t.”
  • On March 15, New York Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo praisedTrump: “I often tell you when I am unhappy with the federal response to this state. The fairness dictates that kudos where kudos are due and here the President and the Vice President responded very quickly. So I want to thank them for that.”
  • On March 19, California Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom praisedTrump: “We need more swabs… The president assured me, not only assured me, he was aware of where those swabs are being procured before I even offered my own insight. Not only is he on top of it, but they’re securing and beginning the process of distributing those swabs.”
  • Newsom later said that same day: “Let me conclude by just making a few points to fill in that. We had today, a very important conversation. It was punctuated earlier today by President Trump and his press conference with the CEO of Gilead, it’s a California based company, around treatments. I want to compliment the President in his focus on treatments. It is a focus of positivity as we work to bridge towards a vaccine. It was a very encouraging conversation. … Here’s the good news in the State of California. I was talking to the Vice President and the President today, thanking them for the first national stockpile transfer of assets that we just received, where we received quite literally, hundreds of thousands of gloves and face masks. Not just N95, but also surgical masks.”
  • On March 24, New Jersey Democrat Governor Phil Murphy praisedTrump: “I want to thank the President and his Administration. We need hospital beds. So, we’ve got four field hospitals getting erected by the – by FEMA and the Army Corps, will – that will allow us to displace currently cared-for individuals, non-COVID, into those hospitals to free up critical care beds.”
4. Biden announced support for barring entry into the U.S. for individuals who had been to China 2 months after Trump announced a travel ban on China:

  • On April 3, Biden’s campaign told CNN that he backed Trump’s China travel ban.
  • On January 31, Trump enacted a travel ban on China to slow down the spread of the coronavirus, which originated in China.
5. Biden called for a CDC team to go into China 50 days after the Trump administration took action:

  • On February 25, Biden said, “I would be on the phone with China and making it clear, we are going to need to be in your country; you have to be open; you have to be clear; we have to know what’s going on; we have to be there with you, and insist on it and insist, insist, insist.”
  • On January 3, the Trump administration emailed and called the Chinese CDC to talk about the outbreak and offered to send in the American CDC to assist with the outbreak.
6. Biden claimed that he called for the Defense Production Act to be used “before anyone,” which came shortly after Trump announced plans to use it:

  • On March 18, Biden said Trump must, “Prioritize and immediately increase domestic production of any critical medical equipment required to respond to this crisis – such as the production of ventilators and associated training to operate – by invoking the Defense Production Act, delegating authority to HHS and FEMA.”
  • On March 18, Trump said during a White House press briefing, “We’ll be invoking the Defense Production Act, just in case we need it. In other words, I think you all know what it is, and it can do a lot of good things if we need it. And we will — we will have it all completed, signing it in just a little while. Right after I’m finished with this conference, I’ll be signing it. It’s prepared to go. So we will be invoking the Defense Production Act.”
Law & Crime reported on March 18 that “political commentators and journalists noted, this Biden demand was released after President Trump had already announced that he was invoking the DPA.

7. Biden called for someone to be put in charge of handling the coronavirus response 5 weeks after Trump tapped Vice President Mike Pence to lead the White House Coronavirus Task Force:

  • On March 31, Biden said, “Who’s in charge, this is not rocket science it is consequential, incredibly consequential that there is certain things that can be done now – should have been done a week ago, three weeks ago, a month ago. The test for me is what does he do from this point on and he has significant responsibility – put somebody in charge. This is a war, you need a general. Put somebody in charge every single day that is accountable. Let people know exactly what is happening. Tell them the truth, they can handle it.”
  • On February 26, Trump announced that he had selected Vice President Mike Pence to run the White House’s Coronavirus Task Force.
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#7535
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/25/blame-china-and-xi-jinping-for-coronavirus-pandemic/

A bungled response in Western countries is no reason to take the heat off China. If China had a different government, the world could have been spared this terrible pandemic.
BY PAUL D. MILLER | MARCH 25, 2020, 10:43 AM


This article is actually fairly balanced. It acknowledges the bungled response of our administration, while while making clear that China deserves to take a lot of heat. My problem with Trump's China bashing is that he does that in order to absolve himself of responsibility.

The author thinks we should aggressively politicize this crisis in order to hold politicians accountable to keep something like this from happening again. The chief enemy in his view is China. I'll go along with that, but that certainly doesn't take the heat off Trump and other politicians. Chief enemy among them in my view is Governor Desantis of Florida.

I think the author is fair. He ends the article with this.

While U.S. policymakers bungled their response and exacerbated the crisis as a result—particularly through Trump’s repeated false statements and lack of urgency— the Chinese government is most directly responsible for the governance failures that have now unleashed untold suffering and economic collapse on the world. Its mendacity and incompetence should cause politicians, policymakers, and business leaders across the world to reconsider their willingness to engage and do business with China until it proves itself a responsible actor on the world stage.

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https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/25/blame-china-and-xi-jinping-for-coronavirus-pandemic/

A bungled response in Western countries is no reason to take the heat off China. If China had a different government, the world could have been spared this terrible pandemic.
BY PAUL D. MILLER | MARCH 25, 2020, 10:43 AM


This article is actually fairly balanced. It acknowledges the bungled response of our administration, while while making clear that China deserves to take a lot of heat. My problem with Trump's China bashing is that he does that in order to absolve himself of responsibility.

The author thinks we should aggressively politicize this crisis in order to hold politicians accountable to keep something like this from happening again. The chief enemy in his view is China. I'll go along with that, but that certainly doesn't take the heat off Trump and other politicians. Chief enemy among them in my view is Governor Desantis of Florida.

I think the author is fair. He ends the article with this.
Good article Leader. Obviously, I’m a small government guy. Overall, if we are able to keep the deaths below 200,000 in the US, our local, state and federal responses will have to be commended. Mistakes were made and will continue to be made at every level of government. China must be held accountable and it has to be financial. I’m as guilty as the next person for wanting the best price on an item. But, no more, I will do my best to avoid buying anything made in China.
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Good article Leader. Obviously, I’m a small government guy. Overall, if we are able to keep the deaths below 200,000 in the US, our local, state and federal responses will have to be commended. Mistakes were made and will continue to be made at every level of government. China must be held accountable and it has to be financial. I’m as guilty as the next person for wanting the best price on an item. But, no more, I will do my best to avoid buying anything made in China.
Well that rules out everything branded trump.:floor:He even imports his golf course workers from Mexico and bought two of his wives from Czechoslovakia and Slovenia. :lol:

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#7538
Well that rules out everything branded trump.:floor:He even imports his golf course workers from Mexico. :lol:
Plenty of made in USA stuff here:clap:
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#7539

14-15 times, please
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#7541
Challenge accepted. :clap::clap::clap::clap:

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#7542
Good article Leader. Obviously, I’m a small government guy. Overall, if we are able to keep the deaths below 200,000 in the US, our local, state and federal responses will have to be commended. Mistakes were made and will continue to be made at every level of government. China must be held accountable and it has to be financial. I’m as guilty as the next person for wanting the best price on an item. But, no more, I will do my best to avoid buying anything made in China.
Many questioned the 200,000 number trump appeared to pull out of his ass at the time. What ever happened to this “pretty good job we’ve done” number?
Let’s face it whether it’s one or one million deaths trump’s going to claim he’s done a “pretty good job.”
Feb. 26: “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low. … When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."
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#7543
Ken Dilanian
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: “For the purpose of eliminating confusion, here are the facts. The authority to require businesses to close in a public health crisis is what is known as a ‘police power,’ and it is reserved by the Constitution to the states, not to the federal government.”
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For the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, some in the Fake News Media are saying that it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government. Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect....
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This is how republicans view things:

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Many questioned the 200,000 number trump appeared to pull out of his ass at the time. What ever happened to this “pretty good job we’ve done” number?
Let’s face it whether it’s one or one million deaths trump’s going to claim he’s done a “pretty good job.”
During the White House coronavirus task force briefing, Dr. Deborah Birx broke down the estimated deaths in the U.S. from COVID-19 if the federal social distancing regulations are followed through April 30. She said 1.5 to 2.2 million Americans could've died without intervention measures, but still says 100,000 to 240,000 could die.

The doctors use science:dunno: would you say the global warming models pull numbers out of their asses:clap:
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#7551
:floor:Never heard of her till you posted her name so, who gives a crap what she says?
Bernie bro’s!

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