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Why are democrats so surprised and upset at what Trump said about the military. I thought democrats want to decrease military spending, decrease law enforcement spending and believe in peace not war as opposed to republicans. You know just let society work out the problems with criminals and other countries. No wonder fear and panic works for Trump! Democrats or is it liberals, sorry I get the ideology confused with the politics sometimes, need to get it together and focus on the election instead of the big bad wolf. If the democratic party does not understand why people vote for Trump then they have become so elite in their beliefs they may never really connect with Trumps base. In my opinion I do not believe the democrats care about connecting to anyone in Trumps base. The people fear socialism and communism like in Cuba, Russia, Venezuela etc. Hispanics fear. Americans fear. African Americans fear. They also fear being attacked by criminals, Antifia and riot violence. I think Biden/Harris are doing everything right so far but their supporters are dropping the ball. I promise I am not picking on Poppaj or Lotb but they do represent a mindset of a liberal elite group who believe that the democratic party has ALL the right answers to a Better America. Neither Biden or Harris are in that group in my opinion. I believe Biden is trying to connect with Trump supporters and doing every thing he can but that liberal elite group is determined to attack not just Trump but about half of the people in this country. If I thought that liberal ideals would fix all our problems in society I would be the one flying that flag but it doesn't. People are complex. We are producers and consumers. We are good and bad. We need to feel safe and represented. We need to be progressive and conservative. This election should be a landslide for Biden but it will not be because we are a complex species. The two party system gives us a choice between progressive ideals and conservative ideals yet we the people are both. Whatever party can manipulate fear and panic generally wins. Don't make it so easy for Trump. Stop attacking the character of Trump supporters. Why do all this back and forth? Trump is a terrible leader and has bad character. We got it!!! Do liberal elites think they could all be President because that is how you come across. Many of you are not sold on Biden running this country either. Is it even possible for you to connect to anyone but those that think just like you? I think the two party system has created an inevitable problem with division in this country and Trump is going to manipulate it to no limits. You are making it too easy for Donald Trump and all his enthusiastic supporters. This thread and others seems to focus on disrespect for both Trump and Trump supporters. That is a mistake in my opinion because it just brings out negative behavior in people. I believe you are playing with fire and need to learn how to be respectful even when hiding behind a computer and using fake names. As Poppaj would say this is too many words trying to say be more respectful and good things will happen

you really have no clue what the lounge is about.

Keep at it and this thread will have 10000 replies by the end of the year! That's gotta be some kind of record!

I'd like to see this thread in a hardbound book with an index.

I for one, am not here for the redeeming social value. To me this is just adults playing in the dirt and trying not to get cooties.

I for one, am not here for the redeeming social value. To me this is just adults playing in the dirt and trying not to get cooties.

Playing in the dirt is great. Playing in the mud with weapons of hate destruction is not so great. A serious division exist in our communities because of the power of politics and it threatens our democracy. It is "we the people" not "me the people". Donald Trump has deployed the weapons of hate destruction between democrats and republicans. Republicans surprised me with their willingness and eagerness to follow that that path of hate. Democrats are surprising me with their willingness and eagerness to follow that path of hate. Democrats demand change which is long over due but violence and destruction has crept into the formula. Republicans have abused their power to no limits. Both sides of this divide have turned a blind eye to the weapons of hate and destruction. I noticed it on this forum a long time ago. I consider Sowal.com to be a community of people who care about each other first. There will be a day where that caring is very important as climate change will bring hurricanes, tornadoes, sea level rise and fires to our community. Yes, we must have a path toward social change but the formula must include respect and caring. Some of you including Jensky does not seem to get it. Posting hate is not great and only serves to irritate. If you want to play in the mud fine just leave the sharp objects in the tool chest.

I know that you have a good point in that well the other side plays with fire so I have to play with fire. I get that and I have that mentality also but I am older and wiser now and know that playing with fire will get you burned. There is a Better way. I think Biden/Harris will show you how to be respectful and demanding at the same time. I am very impressed with their message. I know how frustrating people can be who support a man like Donald Trump. I think I understand them though. The propaganda of fear is a disease and the only prescription to cure it is love and respect. Demand change. Be united behind the only prescription known to man that cures hate. You call my message BS. I call your message a Trump move. One of us is blind...

Wow, if that does not bring tears to your eyes you must not have a shadow

This might bring tears to your eyes, also...

Health Official Out To Manipulate CDC Reports Has Deep Russian Ties | HuffPost

People who hate people should bring tears to our eyes. Politics is a game of trick mirrors. The only way to not get tricked is to not play the game. The only people not tricked are those who stay in the realities of life (productivity, family, friends, community). I try not to blame all our problems on politics because I would have no time for reality

trump on how concerned he is about his cult when holding indoor rallies.

“I’m on a stage and it’s very far away, and so I’m not at all concerned.”

3D printed dick admits trump obstructed justice.

Trump Comes Off Even Worse in Woodward’s Rage Than You’ve Heard

He then gives Woodward a poster-size copy of a photo of Trump and Kim shaking hands at the border separating North and South Korea. “This is me and him,” he tells Woodward, all excited. “That’s the line, right? Then I walked over the line. Pretty cool.” He goes on to brag that Kim “tells me everything. … He killed his uncle and put the body right in the steps where the senators walked out. And the head was cut, sitting on the chest. … Nancy Pelosi said, ‘Oh, let’s impeach him.’ You think that’s tough? This is tough.”

What a fanboy. No wonder Kim and every other dictator on earth plays the American president like such a wondrously easy mark.

The genuine news here is that, contrary to what was thought at the time, Trump didn’t ignore the scientists or wave away their advice when the pandemic took off. No, he understood their analyses and forecasts perfectly well. He just decided not to do anything about it—and, worse still, to encourage others not to do much either. Before we could only speculate that Trump was personally responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands; now we know it.

I listened to a segment on NPR Morning Edition yesterday that interviewed the author of a book "Homeland Elegies". The author's family is from Pakistan but they lived much of their life in Wisconsin. I have not read the book and not sure I will but the interview was intriguing. Ayad Akhtar wrote the book as both a memoir and a novel and both fact and fiction. The interview was confusing. There is a cardiologist who treats Donald Trump maybe Ayad's father. Somehow different realities existed between father and son as the father narrates an apologetic and sincere Donald Trump while the son believes the father to have fallen under some kind of spell because of Donald Trump's wealth. This book may or may not have any real significance about reality and truth between Trump supporters and Trump haters but I am always searching for answers. This Pulitzer Prize winning author seems to have a different take in that people will take their version of truth and reality to their grave. In other words truth seems to have some flexibility of conscience. I am pretty sure I would not like the book because I have hope that Trump supporters will finally see the writing on the wall before it is too late. That said I admit that there might not be anything that Trump can do or not do to change the mindset of why people support Trump. Dictatorships are apolitical and efficient and maybe that is what his supporters want even if it takes us down the gutter of division and hatred. I am amazed at how many people support Trump through all the facts of his ruthless and destructive behavior. The book is probably over my head but thought I would share. I have learned to be less rigid in my beliefs which makes room for more happiness and less frustration. Like I said earlier life is short!

Trump will blame the Covid-19 deaths on the Chinese and then tweet something like democrats just need to hate something so I am a big boy and they can hate all they want but I have real power and real followers. Unfortunately, he does. What Biden is doing and what all democrats or Biden supporters need to be doing is setting a tone of respect and unity because there are voters on the fence who are not finding comfort in being divided from their neighbors, friends and family. Unfortunately again, democrats have bitten into the bad apple of hatred and divisiveness. I do not know why either side has let politics become their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness but it seems that we are moving in the direction of civil disobedience. I am not looking forward to what comes next.

The more I read about the difference in Trump supporters and Trump haters the less optimistic I am about this election for Biden. Biden is leading in the polls but his lead has not increased much in the last year. A lot of things have happened in a year that should have affected the polling. Trump's polling is not moving either and he is within the margin of winning a close electoral victory. It seems the more people that hate on Trump and Trump supporters the more stable his base becomes. There are many social dynamics at play here. Voters have increasingly been shifting from economic reasoning to social reasoning in voting decisions. Social dynamics are complex with deep layers of cultural and maybe even survival roots. Social changes do not come easy and if they begin to threaten the survival instincts of large groups then we have a problem. Trump supporters are very conservative and are in a survival mode because of the way liberal elites threaten them with liberal values and disrespectful behavior. Conservative elites are taking full advantage of this threat with unwavering support from their base. The rallies and enthusiasm that conservatives have fortified their hope to defeat the liberal enemy. That word enemy is the danger in all this. Both sides attack each other's character and facts and truth are no longer part of any formula in a voter's mindset. Deep wounds have been inflicted. It is us against them. It is good versus evil. Just read the posts in this forum. What comes next is going to be very difficult unless we wake up and find something in common and start the process of healing.

trump uses Russian MiG-29s and an AK47 in an ad on supporting our troops.

president* No Responsibility is too stupid to keep his lies in order.

president* No Responsibility is too stupid to keep his lies in order.

If all you do is tell the truth you don't have to worry about remembering lies.
If all you do is lie you don't need to either.

I think bob1 nailed it. This administration has no need for reality.

DAMN!

It is a matter a matter of life and death. The Center for Disease Control is putting out political propaganda about stocking up ammunition! And people on this site are calling for calm silence..???...I can’t help but scream.

It is a matter a matter of life and death. The Center for Disease Control is putting out political propaganda about stocking up ammunition! And people on this site are calling for calm silence..???...I can’t help but scream.

Shh, you don’t want to cause panic.

It is a matter a matter of life and death. The Center for Disease Control is putting out political propaganda about stocking up ammunition! And people on this site are calling for calm silence..???...I can’t help but scream.

Screaming at yourself might be helpful but screaming at people who support Donald Trump does not help. I am not calling for silence but I do believe that respectful conversation is helpful. By all means don't be silent unless you feel the need to personally attack Trump supporters or even people like myself who supports Biden/Harris. Maybe the most important election of our life time is about to happen. It very well may be a matter of life or death. Focus on electing Biden/Harris not defeating Trump. Politics is always frustrating because people have different perspectives on reality. The higher your expectations the higher your frustrations. Medical science says music can lower blood pressure. They don't know why but it does. People will vote for Trump. People will vote for Biden. Focus on helping Biden get more votes. Be social. Be respectful. And by all means listen to more music

Screaming at yourself might be helpful but screaming at people who support Donald Trump does not help. I am not calling for silence but I do believe that respectful conversation is helpful. By all means don't be silent unless you feel the need to personally attack Trump supporters or even people like myself who supports Biden/Harris. Maybe the most important election of our life time is about to happen. It very well may be a matter of life or death. Focus on electing Biden/Harris not defeating Trump. Politics is always frustrating because people have different perspectives on reality. The higher your expectations the higher your frustrations. Medical science says music can lower blood pressure. They don't know why but it does. People will vote for Trump. People will vote for Biden. Focus on helping Biden get more votes. Be social. Be respectful. And by all means listen to more music

You're a sheep in sheep's clothing.

You're a sheep in sheep's clothing.

And you are a house cat with a strange mouth

Bob Woodward has audio Of president* No Panic saying he and everyone else scrambled out of the Oval Office in a panic after someone sneezed.

I am as frustrated as anyone about what is happening with anti-science, anti-truth, alternative realities and hatred. How does it help to get angry? A very wise grandmother told me once that if you want to get even don't get angry. If we focus on electing Biden is that not even enough? If there were not a pandemic I would throw a big party for Biden supporters. I would invite everyone including Trump supporters with one requirement: Be nice to each other. If the big bad wolf comes to eat me (because I am a sheep) I am fully capable of dispensing the wolf. Know what my secret weapon is?