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#9352
I watched the entire debate. Plenty of bourbon. Biden did excellent. Trump was completely Trump. What more can you ask for?
I dont agree that Biden did excellent, but I'm not sure he had to. I don't see how Trump helped himself, and he really needed to.
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#9353
Chris Wallace came off as weak an ineffective. He let Trump push him around. Biden could have been stronger, but he put to rest issues of hi cognitve ability.

Now that is funny :)

Next time we need debate watchers to make sure there is no fraud :)
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#9354
BTW my family voted last night. Joe Biden has three votes. One vote from myself, one vote from my wife and one vote from...uh I can't remember that other one :)
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#9355
I dont agree that Biden did excellent, but I'm not sure he had to. I don't see how Trump helped himself, and he really needed to.

I have debated with Trump supporters for the last 4 years. They will say that Trump eat Biden's lunch. Trump will not lose votes from the debate and he will not gain any votes from the debate. Biden may lose a few but not enough to be a factor. I hope!
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#9356
The post debate talk, fact-checking, and political ads can make a big difference. Obama's first debate with Romney was really weak. It looked like Obama was befuddled by Romney's flip-flopping on positions. Also, Obama came across as just plain tired. The post debate aftermath I think might have actually helped him. I certainly didn't want to see Biden engaging in a constant barrage of rude interruption like Trump, but Trump's supporters love that sort of thing. If these debates are not moderated differently, then the playing field is not level.
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#9357
trump stood there sowing distrust in our election process, our federal healthcare professionals, medical science, and members of his own administration. The man is a bullying pig with no regard for decorum and who the agreed upon rules didn’t apply to. This was a National embarrassment.
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#9358
trump stood there sowing distrust in our election process, our federal healthcare professionals, medical science, and members of his own administration. The man is a bullying pig with no regard for decorum and who the agreed upon rules didn’t apply to. This was a National embarrassment.
It was an major embarrassment. Everybody says that. Just my opinion, but, shouldn't the incumbent president, (whomever he is, or is not), set the tone for the ensuing debates? I doubt that Obama, or Bush. or Clinton, or Bush, or Clinton, or Reagan, or Carter, or Nixon, or Kennedy, or Eisenhower would ever bring up a complete conspiracy theory about the validity of the upcoming elections. You know who might do that? Russia.
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#9359
The debate was as I expected. Pure entertainment. No voters swayed. A damn good "old school" SNL skit. 2 old fucks engaged in an elementary schoolyard tussle. I was waiting to hear "I know you are but what am I?!" or "Your're rubber and I'm glue.... "

Good s**t.
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#9360
The debate was as I expected. Pure entertainment. No voters swayed. A damn good "old school" SNL skit. 2 old fucks engaged in an elementary schoolyard tussle. I was waiting to hear "I know you are but what am I?!" or "Your're rubber and I'm glue.... "

Good s**t.
I'll be happy if no voters are swayed from now until Nov. 3.
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#9361
I'll be happy if no voters are swayed from now until Nov. 3.

I have my doubts that happiness is something you are able to achieve.Good luck to ya none the less.
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#9362
I have my doubts that happiness is something you are able to achieve.Good luck to ya none the less.
That's coming from someone who gets his jollies over watching democracy collapse on the debate stage while his hero flings poo at the audience.
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#9363
The debate was as I expected. Pure entertainment. No voters swayed. A damn good "old school" SNL skit. 2 old fucks engaged in an elementary schoolyard tussle. I was waiting to hear "I know you are but what am I?!" or "Your're rubber and I'm glue.... "

Good s**t.

Yes, the debate was predictable. I think Trump supporters keep hoping that he will suddenly be Presidential but in the end he is what he is. Trump was so disruptive and disrespectful it really put a lot of pressure on Biden to find air time and control his emotions. Trump has no respect for the democratic process of government or civility. He really does not give a rats aspirin bottle about we the people unless you kiss that aspirin bottle which makes him feel like superman. He has been a dictator all his life and now that he has about 42% of Americans supporting him he is feeling it as they say. The only thing surprising is that Trump does not lose voters on his blatant path to turn our democracy into a single power controlling all branches of government. That 42% is either okay with Trump destroying our democracy, confused by what it all means or simple justifying their hatred for progressive democracy.

Biden is truly and factually the last stand for our democracy as we know it. Regardless of his age and mental sharpness he is now the hope of we the people. The founders tried to constitute a process of checks and balances of power. Democrats should have done more to balance that power in our Judicial Branch and Legislative Branch before Trump but I think they got complacent with Obama and thought Clinton would win. Trump is like a hurricane that formed just off the coast and quickly gained energy from a planet that is warming while we the people were going about our lives and not paying attention. That storm is wreaking havoc with our democracy and almost half of us are still not paying attention...

Good luck America!
Beach Fanatic
#9367
So depressing that there are still backers and those left backing Trump are too dumb to know, too unfeeling to care, or know the truth and conspire.
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#9368
So depressing that there are still backers and those left backing Trump are too dumb to know, too unfeeling to care, or know the truth and conspire.
He's losing support. Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert Comic has been an avid supporter of Trump. After his proud boy remarks, Adams says Trump lost his vote. I'm sure there are many more like him.
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#9369
He has already said he likes ads from the Lincoln Project.

It’s time for Jeb Bush to endorse Joe Biden

It’s clear he doesn’t like Trump, nor does he want him to have a second term. Take for instance, Bush’s comments today about The Lincoln Project, a group of Republican never-Trumpers who are going hard after the President’s campaign.

“I think their ads are great,” Bush said at a SALT conference Thursday morning. His statement, which included a caveat that he didn’t like The Lincoln Project going after Senate Republicans, showed where Bush’s heart lies.
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#9370
He's losing support. Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert Comic has been an avid supporter of Trump. After his proud boy remarks, Adams says Trump lost his vote. I'm sure there are many more like him.
Ok but he's a lot of years and a lot of lies and a lot of treason late. There a lot of Trump backers out there who will never change who they are. They are among us. He has revealed the true nature of much of America. That is the depressing part.
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#9371
Ok but he's a lot of years and a lot of lies and a lot of treason late. There a lot of Trump backers out there who will never change who they are. They are among us. He has revealed the true nature of much of America. That is the depressing part.
Oh, he has lots of support, but I'm absolutely detecting movement away from him. I thought that would never happen.
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#9372
Breaking news. president and first lady test positive for COVID-19.

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#9373
Breaking news. president and first lady test positive for COVID-19.

First thought, he’s lying. He found a way to skip another embarrassing debate and be the hero who defeated king flu.
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#9374
Breaking news. president and first lady test positive for COVID-19.


First thought, he is lying but 2nd thought turned into about 20 thoughts. So maybe we should just wait and see what happens next. It is easy to get carried away with scenarios and conspiracies and very negative and dark thoughts. Like, did he expose Joe Biden with his loudness? Duration of exposure is a factor. Okay not going there but this election was already dramatic in terms of the future of America now we are about to have minute by minute drama as televisions are shouting at us, the media is shouting at us and we the people are shouting at each other.

The right thing to do here is not wish for something bad to happen to Donald Trump. I am serious. It is one thing to fight for our democracy with peaceful activism but when we start throwing rocks it changes activism to civil war and I hope that never happens again.
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#9375
Interim President Pence Pardons Trump
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#9376
I only had one thought: If someone cries “hoax” about everything virtually nonstop for 4 years, how could you believe anything he says?

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