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PoppaJ avatar
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#9627
Form their own country? They can’t even support themselves. I say yes, let’s rid ourselves of this racist redneck welfare taker state that is a financial drain on the country.
https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/missi...he-union-after-election-was-called-for-biden/
Mississippi Republican Lawmaker Called for State to ‘Succeed from the Union’ After Election Was Called for Biden

In the wake of the 2020 presidential election, one dissatisfied Republican lawmaker in Mississippi called for the state to “succeed” from the U.S. and create an entirely new country, the Mississippi Free Press reported Monday.
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Beach Fanatic
#9628
Form their own country? They can’t even support themselves. I say yes, let’s rid ourselves of this racist redneck welfare taker state that is a financial drain on the country.
Mississippi Republican Lawmaker Called for State to ‘Succeed from the Union’ After Election Was Called for Biden

In the wake of the 2020 presidential election, one dissatisfied Republican lawmaker in Mississippi called for the state to “succeed” from the U.S. and create an entirely new country, the Mississippi Free Press reported Monday.
Senator Trent Lott, what say you?
Beach Fanatic
#9629
If we were hoping for a smooth transition hope no more. It is obvious that a person like Trump with power does not care about people or democracy and about half of the country supports a Trump dictatorship. If it looks like a dictator, acts like a dictator and smells like a dictator well it must be a dictator. Wealthy people like Trump have no understanding or caring of we the people. People are just a tools that are used to support the whims of the dictator. Republicans have become a tool for Trump. Half of we the people have become a tool for Trump. It is very hard not to be alarmed at what is happening but people this is rapidly becoming a dangerous situation. What could be worse than a 2024 Trump Presidency is a 2020 take over of the military. Now those Trump supporters that I have been trying hard to forgive and move on with a sense of unity will either become my friend in our United States of America or my foe in our Divided States of America. I am not an optimist but boy could I use it right now. Biden is trying to tone down our sense of danger ahead so I am going to listen and follow that message. That said my pessimism is very strong which is a sense of reality and in this case reality means be prepared for danger ahead. I hope my senses are wrong and there is no real threat and Trump is just using his executive power to hurt people that did not support his every whim on his way out but at some point it may be time to consider the reality before us...

The one good thing for me that came out of the Trump Presidency is that I am no longer going to be associated with the republican party. There is no future for me in that party. I will support moderate democrats from now on and my complete allegiance will be in that party. Thank you Donald Trump for opening my eyes! I will not be a "f___ you" type of democrat but I will try to be a "how can I help you" type of democrat which is more like Joe Biden. Both myself and Joe Biden will of course be tested by the "f___ you and the horse you rode in on" republicans. Republicans have gone over a cliff with the promise of protection. We will see how many republicans survive and how many figure out a leap of faith in Trump's promises is a threat to your life, liberty and pursuit of happiness...
Beach Fanatic
#9630
Placing loyalists in the pentagon, authorizing use of troops against protests, instituting martial law because of a pandemic you purposely allowed to rage out of control.

Control of Supreme Court and justice department while raving how cities are out of control.

Refusing to acknowledge the election as legitimate. Unmarked troops in the streets and private armed militias.

Acknowledge the signs people.
Beach Fanatic
#9631
It only took three days since the AP projected Joe Biden as our next President for Trump to directly hurt our democracy and refuse the will of the people. These are not just signs but a direct attempt to create civil unrest! I am almost certain that Trump will continue to engage in something that will require us to stand together or fall apart in the upcoming days and weeks. How will 2020 end? With real hope for an end to the pandemic and the survival of a great democracy? Stay optimistic but pay attention to reality...
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#9632
Leaders around the world know Joe Biden is President elect. Come January 20 they should all disavow loser trump and recognize Joe Biden as the POTUS.
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Beach FanaticAuthor
#9633
Luckily I have no friends who are Trump supporters. I may have a few social media "friends", but that's it.
Lake View Too avatar
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#9634
Oddly enough, I ran into an good old friend of mine today who said he voted for Trump, but he was glad that Biden won. I could not believe my ears! But, I bet a lot of voters did that.

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Beach Fanatic
#9635
Oddly enough, I ran into an good old friend of mine today who said he voted for Trump, but he was glad that Biden won. I could not believe my ears! But, I bet a lot voters did that.
Your friend and those lot are idiots and losers.
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Beach FanaticAuthor
#9636
Oddly enough, I ran into an good old friend of mine today who said he voted for Trump, but he was glad that Biden won. I could not believe my ears! But, I bet a lot voters did that.
That doesn't make any sense. Why??
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#9637
Fox-washed, herd mentality, habitual Republicanism, I don't know.
PoppaJ avatar
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#9638
Fox-washed, herd mentality, habitual Republicanism, I don't know.
I think you’re on to it. The wife friend of ours hates trump but told us her husband wanted to vote for him because he wanted to save the Republican Party. She was trying to convince him it was too far gone. He and I stay away from politics so not sure how he voted.
Beach Fanatic
#9639
Ya'll just kidding right? Over 70 million people voted for Donald Trump. We are very lucky that 5 million more democrats voted Biden. If you are so disconnected from society that you have to believe that all 70 million are "idiots and losers" then I just don't get it. Ya'll need to get out more and engage with people to find out why they voted for Trump. Many are tired of being called redneck, idiot, ignorant, loser and much worse. Many others have fear of social change. Others have fear of lazy democrats who would rather live off the government instead of being productive. Many many others have fear of economic collapse from social policies and more taxes. Most of them have fear of the collapse of the family unit, banning prayer from our schools, acceptance of religions other than Christianity, loss of cultural values, loss of identity and becoming a minority. African Americans like Dave Chappelle, Daryl Davis and Herschel Walker understand Trump supporters better than you. Come on. Know your opponent then engage in a respectful way. It is real ignorance that does not understand why so many people vote for Donald Trump. The more you disrespect them the more they will vote for people like Donald Trump. The stronger their fears of the above the more they will vote for people like Donald Trump. We have to engage with them, respect them and calmly point out their fallacies. I swear if democrats simply withdraw because they are too frustrated, too irritated and too lazy to engage with a Trump supporter then what does your intelligence tell you about that for future elections? Come on this is only one battle for the soul of this Country. Get out there and engage with people. Don't use the excuse that you don't have any friends that are Trump supporters or know of any. They are all around you! I know you don't like this but get over it and be an active, respectful, engaging democrat...
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Beach FanaticAuthor
#9640
I know people who are Trump supporters and I talk with them, even hang out with them, but I can only think of one I consider to be a friend.
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#9641
The other thing is, I dont care to discuss politics and current events with them because chances are they will hit me with some crazy conspiracy theory. Everything is fake news blah, blah, blah, and they can't shut up about Hillary. Eff em.
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#9642
That is the point. When you try to talk to them in a reasonable way, they inevitably state misinformation and/or conspiracy theories that are ingrained in their brains. Benghazi...Hillary's emails...etc. It quickly becomes obvious your conversation starts to turn into an "intervention", because we are not even starting with the same set of "facts".
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Beach Fanatic
#96431
In fairness, I don't think 5 million more Democrats decided to vote Biden over Trump. I think more independent voters decided to vote Biden over Trump. Wikipedia is source of numbers as as attached.

Ya'll just kidding right? Over 70 million people voted for Donald Trump. We are very lucky that 5 million more democrats voted Biden. If you are so disconnected from society that you have to believe that all 70 million are "idiots and losers" then I just don't get it. Ya'll need to get out more and engage with people to find out why they voted for Trump. Many are tired of being called redneck, idiot, ignorant, loser and much worse. Many others have fear of social change. Others have fear of lazy democrats who would rather live off the government instead of being productive. Many many others have fear of economic collapse from social policies and more taxes. Most of them have fear of the collapse of the family unit, banning prayer from our schools, acceptance of religions other than Christianity, loss of cultural values, loss of identity and becoming a minority. African Americans like Dave Chappelle, Daryl Davis and Herschel Walker understand Trump supporters better than you. Come on. Know your opponent then engage in a respectful way. It is real ignorance that does not understand why so many people vote for Donald Trump. The more you disrespect them the more they will vote for people like Donald Trump. The stronger their fears of the above the more they will vote for people like Donald Trump. We have to engage with them, respect them and calmly point out their fallacies. I swear if democrats simply withdraw because they are too frustrated, too irritated and too lazy to engage with a Trump supporter then what does your intelligence tell you about that for future elections? Come on this is only one battle for the soul of this Country. Get out there and engage with people. Don't use the excuse that you don't have any friends that are Trump supporters or know of any. They are all around you! I know you don't like this but get over it and be an active, respectful, engaging democrat...
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Beach Fanatic
#9644
I do understand. However this battle for the soul of our Country is not over. We have to build a bridge otherwise the republican river will grow as it did in this election. Trump may be defeated but he will not go away. His supporters will not go away unless we find a way to connect to them. You can throw out polling as an indicator of elections. You can throw out superior intellect or morality as reasoning. Democrats are going to have to find a way to connect with rural and suburban America on policy and their fears of social change. People are moving out of cities and into rural and suburban America. This migration is what the republicans are counting on. Don't be mislead by this one election. We will have to bring up politics in conversations and risk the conspiracies, the fallacies and even laughter to explain why we need social programs, equality and fairness, taxes on those who can afford it, conservation of resources, higher minimum wage, less carbon emission, etc. Yes you and I will have to wade into the pit of vipers and be calm, cool and smart with an understanding that they do not want us there. Or we can let a Donald Trump character happen all over again. I say that change needs to happen on both sides. Believe it or don't...
Beach Fanatic
#9645
Bob Wells is correct. It was not 5 million more democrats voting for Biden. Republican and Democrats both turned out more votes than ever and they are split almost 50/50. Those 5 million people are independents who live in the cities. They may all move out of the city in the next 2 years!
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#9646
Ya'll just kidding right? Over 70 million people voted for Donald Trump. We are very lucky that 5 million more democrats voted Biden. If you are so disconnected from society that you have to believe that all 70 million are "idiots and losers" then I just don't get it. Ya'll need to get out more and engage with people to find out why they voted for Trump. Many are tired of being called redneck, idiot, ignorant, loser and much worse. Many others have fear of social change. Others have fear of lazy democrats who would rather live off the government instead of being productive. Many many others have fear of economic collapse from social policies and more taxes. Most of them have fear of the collapse of the family unit, banning prayer from our schools, acceptance of religions other than Christianity, loss of cultural values, loss of identity and becoming a minority. African Americans like Dave Chappelle, Daryl Davis and Herschel Walker understand Trump supporters better than you. Come on. Know your opponent then engage in a respectful way. It is real ignorance that does not understand why so many people vote for Donald Trump. The more you disrespect them the more they will vote for people like Donald Trump. The stronger their fears of the above the more they will vote for people like Donald Trump. We have to engage with them, respect them and calmly point out their fallacies. I swear if democrats simply withdraw because they are too frustrated, too irritated and too lazy to engage with a Trump supporter then what does your intelligence tell you about that for future elections? Come on this is only one battle for the soul of this Country. Get out there and engage with people. Don't use the excuse that you don't have any friends that are Trump supporters or know of any. They are all around you! I know you don't like this but get over it and be an active, respectful, engaging democrat...
If they’re tired of it then they should stop being ignorant loser idiots and face the reality trump is a POS.
Beach Fanatic
#9647
I really do understand that it is much easier to type on this forum than to engage with a Trump supporter but I do it almost every day. It is unbelievably frustrating! I actually may need therapy to try and understand them better :)
Beach Fanatic
#9648
Ya'll just kidding right? Over 70 million people voted for Donald Trump. We are very lucky that 5 million more democrats voted Biden. If you are so disconnected from society that you have to believe that all 70 million are "idiots and losers" then I just don't get it. Ya'll need to get out more and engage with people to find out why they voted for Trump. Many are tired of being called redneck, idiot, ignorant, loser and much worse. Many others have fear of social change. Others have fear of lazy democrats who would rather live off the government instead of being productive. Many many others have fear of economic collapse from social policies and more taxes. Most of them have fear of the collapse of the family unit, banning prayer from our schools, acceptance of religions other than Christianity, loss of cultural values, loss of identity and becoming a minority. African Americans like Dave Chappelle, Daryl Davis and Herschel Walker understand Trump supporters better than you. Come on. Know your opponent then engage in a respectful way. It is real ignorance that does not understand why so many people vote for Donald Trump. The more you disrespect them the more they will vote for people like Donald Trump. The stronger their fears of the above the more they will vote for people like Donald Trump. We have to engage with them, respect them and calmly point out their fallacies. I swear if democrats simply withdraw because they are too frustrated, too irritated and too lazy to engage with a Trump supporter then what does your intelligence tell you about that for future elections? Come on this is only one battle for the soul of this Country. Get out there and engage with people. Don't use the excuse that you don't have any friends that are Trump supporters or know of any. They are all around you! I know you don't like this but get over it and be an active, respectful, engaging democrat...
No thanks.
Beach Fanatic
#9649
If they’re tired of it then they should stop being ignorant loser idiots and face the reality trump is a POS.

It just ain't going to happen. They are able to justify voting for Donald Trump in their minds and their soul. The arguments being used to persuade trump supporters is not working. You and I will have to find a way to get over our frustration and work to keep them engaged in values that you share with them. How about starting with kindness which is the opposite of Donald Trump. Just ask them what they like about Trump. The key is to listen. Follow up with what do you dislike about Biden. Find some common ground in the first conversation. In following conversations they might listen to you...or not but at least it does not hurt your chances. Hey it is up to democrats to learn how to engage with people. The Democratic Party even understands this. They have admitted that Republicans do a better job at knocking on doors!
Beach Fanatic
#9650
No thanks.

Understood. That is your call and I respect it.
Beach Fanatic
#9651
I now believe that Joe Biden was the only Democrat that had any chance of defeating Donald Trump. I am a big believer in the Joe Biden brand of politics. He is nice, kind, respectful and has clear policies to help with real issues. He is moderate but progressive. Just try pulling that one off! I just wish he were younger because we need two terms of Joe Biden to get the people in this country talking, debating, compromising and laughing together again.

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