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It just ain't going to happen. They are able to justify voting for Donald Trump in their minds and their soul. The arguments being used to persuade trump supporters is not working. You and I will have to find a way to get over our frustration and work to keep them engaged in values that you share with them. How about starting with kindness which is the opposite of Donald Trump. Just ask them what they like about Trump. The key is to listen. Follow up with what do you dislike about Biden. Find some common ground in the first conversation. In following conversations they might listen to you...or not but at least it does not hurt your chances. Hey it is up to democrats to learn how to engage with people. The Democratic Party even understands this. They have admitted that Republicans do a better job at knocking on doors!

Exactly, it just ain’t gonna happen so stop wasting your time on a pipe dream. Just look at the silence coming from republican leadership. Republicans can’t believe they failed and will now intensify their voter suppression efforts. I have no interest in appeasing these aholes. You’re bringing an olive branch to a gun fight.

No I ain't doing no such thing. I am talking about bringing energy (work ethic) to the democratic party to defeat the (lost their soul) republicans. Joe Biden defeated the republicans with hard work. He campaigned non stop. Trump did the same thing. So we can be lazy or scared and let them continue suppressing the vote, damaging our planet and all sorts of hideousness or we can work to disarm them. Disarming an opponent takes place before the gun fight. Democrats must work hard well before the gun fight which I have heard them say is something they have not been doing as well as the republicans. It is time for democrats to put some skin in the game instead of a bunch of disrespectful words. It is a challenge not an ultimatum. You can say whatever you want to but talk is cheap...

No I ain't doing no such thing. I am talking about bringing energy (work ethic) to the democratic party to defeat the (lost their soul) republicans. Joe Biden defeated the republicans with hard work. He campaigned non stop. Trump did the same thing. So we can be lazy or scared and let them continue suppressing the vote, damaging our planet and all sorts of hideousness or we can work to disarm them. Disarming an opponent takes place before the gun fight. Democrats must work hard well before the gun fight which I have heard them say is something they have not been doing as well as the republicans. It is time for democrats to put some skin in the game instead of a bunch of disrespectful words. It is a challenge not an ultimatum. You can say whatever you want to but talk is cheap...

Sounds like you’re justifying an abusive relationship. We hear your cries. Please seek help.

WE JUST DID!!!

LOL! So the way you communicate with a Biden supporter is even disrespectful! If all democrats have your abilities then that sort of explains why so many people are Trump supporters! We democrats better get together and come up with a better plan than what you are suggesting...

LOL! So the way you communicate with a Biden supporter is even disrespectful! If all democrats have your abilities then that sort of explains why so many people are Trump supporters! We democrats better get together and come up with a better plan than what you are suggesting...

Fox is now considered too liberal so good luck communicating with people flocking to Parler, OANN, and Newsmax for their information.

LOL! So the way you communicate with a Biden supporter is even disrespectful! If all democrats have your abilities then that sort of explains why so many people are Trump supporters! We democrats better get together and come up with a better plan than what you are suggesting...

Give us a fricking break. You are such a troll in sheep's clothing with your insults wrapped in faux blue. To suggest we have respect for people who support a man who brags about grabbing womens' private parts is galling. I can't wait for another confederate flag thread for you to jump on the defense to distract you from your Biden support BS. You aren't fooling anyone.

Jensky you have become so anti-social that you do not really care about communicating with respect to a Biden supporter much less a Trump supporter. I don't know how many democrats are like you but I know I am not. I would just as soon write you off as a troll in sheep's clothing and all others like you but I don't. I keep trying to help you understand that a divided America is not good for our Democracy. Apparently both you and Trump supporters are okay with a divided America. Maybe you are just lazy and don't want to work for our Democracy but I am out there talking with both sides almost every day. If you are looking for a lazy troll look into the mirror. Checking a box on a ballot is about the least you can do. Trump is about to take us to defcon 2 and something tells me when the going gets tough...where is Jensky? We should be working together to build bridges not blow up the d___ thing...

Fox is now considered too liberal so good luck communicating with people flocking to Parler, OANN, and Newsmax for their information.

Yes that is a problem. Trump supporters are not even trying to find the truth. Alternative facts is fine with them. It is almost worth giving up on them completely except that if we do then we will lose future elections. Republicans are out there working hard. We agree that they have become so low that they are willing to lie, cheat and steal elections and they are hard at it. Democrats can't afford to sit back and believe that superior morality and intellect will win out. I am only repeating what I hear on programs like NPR just yesterday or the day before. Democrats are getting out worked and they admit it. Look it up.

Just follow your chickens lead...

Grief, anger, disbelief: Trump voters face Biden's victory

Jensky you have become so anti-social that you do not really care about communicating with respect to a Biden supporter much less a Trump supporter. I don't know how many democrats are like you but I know I am not. I would just as soon write you off as a troll in sheep's clothing and all others like you but I don't. I keep trying to help you understand that a divided America is not good for our Democracy. Apparently both you and Trump supporters are okay with a divided America. Maybe you are just lazy and don't want to work for our Democracy but I am out there talking with both sides almost every day. If you are looking for a lazy troll look into the mirror. Checking a box on a ballot is about the least you can do. Trump is about to take us to defcon 2 and something tells me when the going gets tough...where is Jensky? We should be working together to build bridges not blow up the d___ thing...

I have watched republicans and those who back republicans destroy this country from the inside out for nearly 50 years. They've held on as long as they can by lying, cheating, and stealing. It is time for it to end. There is no quarter.

I have watched republicans and those who back republicans destroy this country from the inside out for nearly 50 years. They've held on as long as they can by lying, cheating, and stealing. It is time for it to end. There is no quarter.

And how do you propose to "end" it?

I really do understand that it is much easier to type on this forum than to engage with a Trump supporter but I do it almost every day. It is unbelievably frustrating! I actually may need therapy to try and understand them better

Eye opening isn’t it.

More like eye popping But we can not afford to get lazy now and let them win in two years and four years! We have to build bridges. We can do it with enthusiasm. If Trump can do it we can do it better...

Alka Seltzer helps that

All of us that support Biden need to understand that he still needs our help because the right is becoming radicalized under Trump. I don't know what to tell you except Democracy is hard work! Do something beside b**ch and complain maybe...

No thanks.

Trump supporter. Radicalized leftist. No difference. Intolerance is intolerance. That isn't getting us anywhere Che.

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They get free paper towels with every orange man vote!

Exactly, it just ain’t gonna happen so stop wasting your time on a pipe dream. Just look at the silence coming from republican leadership. Republicans can’t believe they failed and will now intensify their voter suppression efforts. I have no interest in appeasing these aholes. You’re bringing an olive branch to a gun fight.

you just used Republican and leadership in the same sentence))

Fox is now considered too liberal so good luck communicating with people flocking to Parler, OANN, and Newsmax for their information.

So the Trump thing is funny. Apparently he called Rupert on Tuesday night when Fox News called Arizona for Biden, Trump went on profanity laced bender. The next day, with the exception of the prime time geniuses, Fox flipped the switch on Trumpy.

Life is too short, and I just don't have the energy.

No, I Will Not Be 'Reaching Out' To Trump Voters, Now Or Ever. Here's Why. | HuffPostu

I understand that life is too short. Trust me I do. Stress is like a disease if not managed and it will kill us so I really do understand.

But here is the problem. If we do not bridge this divide our democracy will likely not make it because I am now convinced that republicans are no longer interested in a Democracy of we the people. Democrats moved away from the bible belt around Nixon and republicans being the opportunist they are picked up the bible belt. The bible belt is never going to accept other religions or non- religious people, social change, racial or gender equality, income equality or any other equality UNLESS we give them reasons beyond good conscience. They are comfortable with status quo because of course it gives them advantages and in addition it is much easier to just follow. When you look at the demographics and geography of this divide there is a lot more bible belt red than open minded blue and those colors are not going to change a whole lot no matter whether we have a good President like Obama or a bad President like Trump. So something is going on beyond electing a democrat or republican. It is not a movement but more like a visceral reaction to too much change in social and institutional norms. Just in my family I have had to adjust to a lot of change and if I were "religious" I can certainly understand the fear. To be honest I probably will not ever fully understand gender identity, homosexuality, transgender, sexual orientation and queer or questioning. Fortunately I am a spiritual person who learned how to live and let live from my grandmother. Anyway no question there has been a lot of social change for one generation. Instead of accepting the words written in red Christians seem to be falling back to the Old Testament values where sacrifice, fear and social structure are prevalent. It is easy for us to throw hypocrite darts at religious people but we need to stop. I do understand that following a man like Donald Trump is almost unforgivable and definitely stressful to many of us who clearly see the hypocrisy. The problem is that "religion" is a unified institution. Democrats do not have a unified bunch like that. If we believe in Democracy and willing to make sacrifices for democracy then we must come to terms with building a bridge to the bible belt republicans. I listened to a Democratic Party leader say on NPR that democrats have allowed republicans to beat them in door to door campaigning. We democrats must not wait until the next election to get our message out but even before that happens we have to find a unifying element in our message. I think that it needs to be "follow the awareness of our natural changing world and in doing so we will find that connection to a spiritual presence or energy that connects us together for the purpose of a greater good". Whatever the message it needs to connect us to each other not separate us. If we try to convince a Trump supporter that we democrats are just better than you then how do you think they will react? Our United States of America and the great experiment of democracy will only succeed with "unity". It is not complicated. We either find a way to unite for a common purpose or sit back and complain about how the other side is a hypocrite and watch our democracy fail. It seems that we may be at the beginning of the end of the great experiment because we are so divided but it is not yet decided...

Trump supporter. Radicalized leftist. No difference. Intolerance is intolerance. That isn't getting us anywhere Che.

If my own mother was a Trump supporter, I would piss on her grave.

If my own mother was a Trump supporter, I would piss on her grave.

Agenda clearly stated. However unless you were abused by your mother I doubt that statement is sincere. Even if you were abused I would not believe you. I here that sort of resistance on both sides. We are clearly divided and both sides believe they are on the right side of truth. I hear you but you have no solution to a very big problem that affects more than just you. The republican solution is to take away your democracy and you are saying "go ahead because I don't care enough to do more than type in a forum or mark a ballot or threaten to piss on something". Either you believe in democracy or you don't. If you don't you just as well be a republican. But I think you care. So while those kind of short reactive statements are funny they don't really do anything. Human life has been sacrificed for our Democracy so please do not tell me life is too short. All we have to do is be respectful to that other side. You know, treat them like you want to be treated. How hard is that? Okay it's hard but not like giving your life hard. Democracy inherently means that you are part of something bigger than yourself. So don't be like the self centered republicans who have become my way or the highway. Lets find common ground from which to build a bridge and save our democracy!

Agenda clearly stated. However unless you were abused by your mother I doubt that statement is sincere. Even if you were abused I would not believe you. I here that sort of resistance on both sides. We are clearly divided and both sides believe they are on the right side of truth. I hear you but you have no solution to a very big problem that affects more than just you. The republican solution is to take away your democracy and you are saying "go ahead because I don't care enough to do more than type in a forum or mark a ballot or threaten to piss on something". Either you believe in democracy or you don't. If you don't you just as well be a republican. But I think you care. So while those kind of short reactive statements are funny they don't really do anything. Human life has been sacrificed for our Democracy so please do not tell me life is too short. All we have to do is be respectful to that other side. You know, treat them like you want to be treated. How hard is that? Okay it's hard but not like giving your life hard. Democracy inherently means that you are part of something bigger than yourself. So don't be like the self centered republicans who have become my way or the highway. Lets find common ground from which to build a bridge and save our democracy!

My son is an Eagle Scout and I was an assistant leader. My son became the scout master to his son who is also an Eagle Scout. This is a story used as a lesson we both taught the scouts many times over the years and it’s a lesson we should all learn. Simply substitute republican for rattlesnake.

A little boy was walking down a path and he came across a rattlesnake. The rattlesnake was getting old. He asked, "Please little boy, can you take me to the top of the mountain? I hope to see the sunset one last time before I die." The little boy answered "No Mr. Rattlesnake. If I pick you up, you'll bite me and I'll die." The rattlesnake said, "No, I promise. I won't bite you. Just please take me up to the mountain." The little boy thought about it and finally picked up that rattlesnake and took it close to his chest and carried it up to the top of the mountain.

They sat there and watched the sunset together. It was so beautiful. Then after sunset the rattlesnake turned to the little boy and asked, "Can I go home now? I am tired, and I am old." The little boy picked up the rattlesnake and again took it to his chest and held it tightly and safely. He came all the way down the mountain holding the snake carefully and took it to his home to give him some food and a place to sleep. The next day the rattlesnake turned to the boy and asked, "Please little boy, will you take me back to my home now? It is time for me to leave this world, and I would like to be at my home now." The little boy felt he had been safe all this time and the snake had kept his word, so he would take it home as asked.

He carefully picked up the snake, took it close to his chest, and carried him back to the woods, to his home to die. Just before he laid the rattlesnake down, the rattlesnake turned and bit him in the chest. The little boy cried out and threw the snake upon the ground. "Mr. Snake, why did you do that? Now I will surely die!" The rattlesnake looked up at him and grinned, "You knew what I was when you picked me up."

Boy and the RattleSnake Story