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The amount of time and energy spent here hating and blaming Trump and his followers for everything is staggering.

I think you underestimate the amount of good quality links to a rather huge amount of deplorable behavior by this president. You also underestimate the enjoyment of raining ridicule down on his supporters. It’s fun.

I think you underestimate the amount of good quality links to a rather huge amount of deplorable behavior by this president. You also underestimate the enjoyment of raining ridicule down on his supporters. It’s fun.

If that is "fun" for "you" please speak for yourself. How in the world is "ridicule" fun for you? Staggering is a good word to describe this behavior.

If that is "fun" for "you" please speak for yourself. How in the world is "ridicule" fun for you? Staggering is a good word to describe this behavior.

Pointing out the staggering stupidity of the people who support the psychotic conman who is president, to me, is enjoyable. I want everyone of them to look at themselves and think "am I doing the honorable thing?" That is the purpose behind my ridicule.

If that is "fun" for "you" please speak for yourself. How in the world is "ridicule" fun for you? Staggering is a good word to describe this behavior.

We are ridiculing people who said nothing when their lying hero thought it would be funny if he ridiculed a disabled reporter. That alone should have been disqualifing.

The amount of time and energy spent here hating and blaming Trump and his followers for everything is staggering.

Hang in there. Just a month to go. Here's one for you:

We are ridiculing people who said nothing when their lying hero thought it would be funny if he ridiculed a disabled reporter. That alone should have been disqualifing.

My Grandmother would probably send you to the wood shed for ridiculing anyone whether they deserve it or not. You are making the division and hatred worse. Two wrongs do not make a right. It is staggering to me that you justify ridicule as an appropriate civil behavior. Where is your good sense?

Pointing out the staggering stupidity of the people who support the psychotic conman who is president, to me, is enjoyable. I want everyone of them to look at themselves and think "am I doing the honorable thing?" That is the purpose behind my ridicule.

That kind of behavior is staggering to me. Seems hypocritical to treat people the way you do not want to be treated. It is the same thing that a bully does. I don't think you are a bully so just get a grip on the frustrations and find a better way to communicate. If it in fact does make you proud of yourself then maybe you need to listen to your conscience.

My Grandmother would probably send you to the wood shed for ridiculing anyone whether they deserve it or not. You are making the division and hatred worse. Two wrongs do not make a right. It is staggering to me that you justify ridicule as an appropriate civil behavior. Where is your good sense?

Never claimed moral superiority. These deplorable lowlifes are continuing to campaign for anti-democratic solutions to their perceived injustices and support trump’s efforts to invalidate the votes of millions of Americans. Even AG Barr reiterated today there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud and no justification for a special counsel. This is trump trying to settle his petty grudges.

I've read the first couple pages of this thread and the last dozen or so, they hatred and energy spent on this has to be toxic to your system, you speak of division while being devisive. I am a Trump supporter and I will put my character and intelligence up against anyone on this planet. Thats why I post with my real name.

I know. I understand. At least some of his appointees being honest and doing the right thing. More of these Trump supporters will come around if we just keep being civil in our behavior. Biden is going to bring some of them back from the twilight zone. Not all but enough that maybe Trump's damage to our democracy will heal. It is important to keep the dialogue respectful. Hard yes. The right thing to do, absolutely.

I've read the first couple pages of this thread and the last dozen or so, they hatred and energy spent on this has to be toxic to your system, you speak of division while being devisive. I am a Trump supporter and I will put my character and intelligence up against anyone on this planet. Thats why I post with my real name.

Of course you are but you just called your character into question by making that statement.

I've read the first couple pages of this thread and the last dozen or so, they hatred and energy spent on this has to be toxic to your system, you speak of division while being devisive. I am a Trump supporter and I will put my character and intelligence up against anyone on this planet. Thats why I post with my real name.

I do not question your intelligence or your character. My mom is a Trump supporter and I know that she is a good human and smart but she listens to one news network all the time all thru the day to get her information. She has essentially been brain washed by Fox News and now even newsmax. I try to listen to all the news channels to get a fair understanding of what is happening in the world. News is a business and they have to make money with sensational headlines to keep you tuned in. You are correct about divisive behavior and our democracy is in trouble because of all the hatred. Joe Biden will not ridicule you or try to make you feel unwelcome to his brand of politics. He is a true moderate democrat that will try as hard as he can to be more bi-partisan but you will have to let him. If your support of Donald Trump will not allow you to accept Joe Biden as our President then that in itself does not help us keep our democracy. Make no mistake about the fact that our democracy is in trouble and if that is not checked by more rational, more civil and more respectful behavior in all of us we will lose our democracy. I know you do not want our children to go thru the kind of violence that happens when we we the people are muted out by those in charge. History is there for us to learn from. We are all still learning...

I've read the first couple pages of this thread and the last dozen or so, they hatred and energy spent on this has to be toxic to your system, you speak of division while being devisive. I am a Trump supporter and I will put my character and intelligence up against anyone on this planet. Thats why I post with my real name.

Hahahaha

Of course you are but you just called your character into question by making that statement.

If you go back a page or two some of the posts are about the character of Trump supporters, that is why I brought it up. I know my character is solid and unshakeable.

Hahahaha

Very productive, Merry Christmas

If you go back a page or two some of the posts are about the character of Trump supporters, that is why I brought it up. I know my character is solid and unshakeable.

So you think mocking handicapped people is character?

You think cheating people is character?

If that's your rock solid character no thanks.

If you go back a page or two some of the posts are about the character of Trump supporters, that is why I brought it up. I know my character is solid and unshakeable.

Exactly! Unshakable, no matter what that lying Pussygrabber does you trumpers will excuse, justify, and normalize, then celebrate it against any criticism.

So you think mocking handicapped people is character?

You think cheating people is character?

If that's your rock solid character no thanks.

Mocking handicapped people is not character
Let me know the contect of who you think he cheated and I will answer that question
Personal digs make you seem petty and smallminded

I like Trump as a president I didn't say I would have him over for dinner
If you would like to know more just ask a question and I'll answer it to the best of my ability
If you get personal I'll tell you to go f*ck yourself (as I would expect you to do to me)
Americans need to come together under whomever is president, personal attacks will not heal our divide
Just my opinion

Exactly! Unshakable, no matter what that lying Pussygrabber does you trumpers will excuse, justify, and normalize, then celebrate it against any criticism.

Wrong, if you want to have an adult conversation ask a question, if you want to lump half the country together as stupid you will no longer be worth the time

Wrong, if you want to have an adult conversation ask a question, if you want to lump half the country together as stupid you will no longer be worth the time

Not half, more like a third. And I don’t need to ask a question. You thought trump would make a good president for a second time so any question I would have has been answered.

I've read the first couple pages of this thread and the last dozen or so, they hatred and energy spent on this has to be toxic to your system, you speak of division while being devisive. I am a Trump supporter and I will put my character and intelligence up against anyone on this planet. Thats why I post with my real name.

Anyone who won't denounce Trump for his post-election behavior is no good. I'll leave it at that.

I can see coming on here to have an intellectual conversation was a mistake, best of luck, not worth my time.

I can see coming on here to have an intellectual conversation was a mistake, best of luck, not worth my time.

I can see you're ill-equipped for such conversation. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

I can see you're ill-equipped for such conversation. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

OK, you got me, good one. Minus the fact that there was never a conversation Socrates

I can see coming on here to have an intellectual conversation was a mistake, best of luck, not worth my time.

I believe that you have a right to support anyone that your brain and conscience can agree on which is very hard to do when there is so much misinformation. So in my humble opinion I prefer you to give Joe Biden a chance instead of a demand requirement to denounce Donald Trump. If you can withstand these democrat loyalist who have gone too far in their ridicule and disrespectful behaviors I am pretty sure that eventually you will find that Joe Biden and the moderate democratic party is our hope for a Better America. Donald Trump has not just abused our democratic process but he has hurt our country in a way that we may not recover unless people like you can let Donald Trump go and accept and trust Joe Biden's Presidency. If you only watch one news channel then you will never have full and truthful information so the first step in protecting our democracy is learning how to filter information coming from partisan politic sources. Poppaj and others in this forum do not represent the methods of democracy that I represent. I do agree with their frustration of Donald Trump and now the GOP but I see no good reason to attack you for not having character or intelligence. I see an opportunity to connect with you and learn from you and hopefully you will learn from me. If we can navigate all the misinformation and communicate with respect we will both move toward the center of political and social ideology because in my opinion is where we become a UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Our country, our democracy and our future will reflect whether or not people like you and I are able to come together for a bigger purpose than the misinformation coming from extremism. All through history their have been civil wars when extremism wins out over centrism. The media has become too extreme so one source of media all the time and all day long is going to hurt our chances at continuing not only our democracy but our civil behaviors. Political ads are damaging to our democracy because they are full of misinformation if not complete mistruths. We will have to turn off the TV and learn how to hold our representatives accountable. It is difficult to find information but we do have people with very bad character running for an office that is supposed to represent you and me. Many don't represent you and me. Many represent only those with money and power while lying to our faces about how they are going to help you and me. It is important for us to have accurate and truthful information. Don't listen to their mouths. Listen to your conscience. Search for the truth. Don't depend on words. Look for their actions. Make sure your brain and conscience are in agreement before you vote...