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After tweeting “This is 1776” Q-Anon nut and proud gun toter Colorado Republican Lauren Boebert tweeted real time movements of the speaker of the house during deadly trump ordered insurrection.

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Man Armed With Assault Rifle Texted Plans To Shoot Nancy Pelosi, Officials Say | HuffPost

Cleveland Grover Meredith Jr. relayed plans to hurt the House speaker while traveling to attend Wednesday’s pro-Trump rally near the Capitol, authorities said.

If you read my posts you will find at least some of the answer to your question. I have very personal conversations with Trump supporters so maybe I have insight that you might not have. Of course this is my opinion and we all have one of those

Some are super religious. They fear that liberals are taking God out of everything. I am trying to keep this simple but generally they believe that liberals are mean spirited athiest and trying to take away their faith. They make up about a third of the trump supporter group. There is some truth to their beliefs in terms of mean spirited liberals who use the f bomb in conversations a lot. Many in this group are working class to middle class Americans.

Some are super anti-government. They fear government intrustion into both their private and business lives. They hate paying taxes and believe that government waste too much. This group includes a broad range of economic class from poor to upper middle class and even the wealthiest Americans. I would say that at least half of all Trump supporters are in this group.

Some are super followers of any person with power that seems to support their chaotic drama filled lives. They are thugs, criminals, conspiracist, racist, white supremacist etc. This group is the most vulnerable to radicalization and they range from working class to middle class. Hard to say how many are in this group but based on what happened this past week there are too many of them.

All three groups have factions that are easily radicalized. All three groups are angry beyond what many in this forum probably understand. When/If Trump goes away there will be others like Ted Cruz that steps in to stoke the anger and hatred. There is money to be made in anger and hatred and that seems to be what motivates people like Cruz and Trump and others. The Republican Party recognized this a long time ago and lost their soul along the way. The Democratic Party has room to improve but when they have full power to wield who really knows whether that power will corrupt them as well. Money and Power just seems to corrupt humans. We the people need to be United in terms of electing good people to political office rather than party affiliation whether it be County, State or Federal offices. We need more choice in our elections. The election of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris is a good sign that our Democracy is not over yet...

OK, I need to clarify. My bad. I wasn't talking about the common man, average Joe or Jane. I was talking about the higher ups in our power base. The elected officials, the appointed officials. Why can't they just say "thanks but no thanks"?

Boy, that bit of levity was brief...but seriously, Bob, isn't is just plain logical, if not written in law, that a pardon can only be given to someone convicted of a crime? This pardoning of someone suspected of a crime, some one thinking about a crime, someone who may be thinking about a crime next week, someone who may have done a crime in the last four years... that seems crazy.

Nope, Nixon was pardoned in advance of commission of a crime.

Also think about the self pardon argument. I have zero training in constitutional law, but common sense would dictate this shouldn’t be possible. A self pardon would place the president above the law. He could spend four years committing any number of crimes knowing there will be no accountability. This is exactly what the current criminal in the oval office believes and these anti-democracy republicans are re-enforcing that belief.

I believe that the pardon would be legit, but after he leaves office he could be prosecuted for issuing the pardon.

My favorite line in a movie is from The Renaissance Man when Danny DeVito’s character tells the group of misfits he is charged with educating “The choices you make dictate the lives you lead.” Here is a trumpnazi learning that lesson.

I imagine they are also on the no f**k list. For the future of mankind, I certainly hope so.

I imagine they are also on the no f**k list. For the future of mankind, I certainly hope so.

That would be hilarious if dating sites automatically added a warning to their profiles. Wonder how many people are scrubbing all references to trump from their profiles.

Good thing Trump wasn’t caught getting a BJ.
Impeachment for insurrection, no.
Impeachment for an erection, yes.

That would be hilarious if dating sites automatically added a warning to their profiles. Wonder how many people are scrubbing all references to trump from their profiles.

The bumper stickers and signs vanished after the election.

Lying POS trump fluffer Matt Gaetz needs to resign

Records Prove The Obvious: Fervent Trump Fans Fueled The Capitol Siege | HuffPost


The Associated Press reviewed social media posts, voter registrations, court files and other public records for more than 120 people either facing criminal charges related to the Jan. 6 unrest or who, going maskless amid the pandemic, were later identified through photographs and videos taken during the melee.

The evidence gives lie to claims by right-wing pundits and Republican officials such as Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., that the violence was perpetrated by left-wing antifa thugs rather than supporters of the president.

“If the reports are true,” Gaetz said on the House floor just hours after the attack, “some of the people who breached the Capitol today were not Trump supporters. They were masquerading as Trump supporters and, in fact, were members of the violent terrorist group antifa.”


Steven D’Antuono, the assistant director in charge of the FBI’s Washington field office, told reporters that investigators had seen “no indication” antifa activists were disguised as Trump supporters in Wednesday’s riot.

Man Armed With Assault Rifle Texted Plans To Shoot Nancy Pelosi, Officials Say | HuffPost

Cleveland Grover Meredith Jr. relayed plans to hurt the House speaker while traveling to attend Wednesday’s pro-Trump rally near the Capitol, authorities said.

I wonder why the word "deplorable" hasn't been used a little more this week. "criminal" seems to be be a little more appropriate.

Lying POS trump fluffer Matt Gaetz needs to resign

Records Prove The Obvious: Fervent Trump Fans Fueled The Capitol Siege | HuffPost


The Associated Press reviewed social media posts, voter registrations, court files and other public records for more than 120 people either facing criminal charges related to the Jan. 6 unrest or who, going maskless amid the pandemic, were later identified through photographs and videos taken during the melee.

The evidence gives lie to claims by right-wing pundits and Republican officials such as Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., that the violence was perpetrated by left-wing antifa thugs rather than supporters of the president.

“If the reports are true,” Gaetz said on the House floor just hours after the attack, “some of the people who breached the Capitol today were not Trump supporters. They were masquerading as Trump supporters and, in fact, were members of the violent terrorist group antifa.”


Steven D’Antuono, the assistant director in charge of the FBI’s Washington field office, told reporters that investigators had seen “no indication” antifa activists were disguised as Trump supporters in Wednesday’s riot.

What I find the most sadly humorous is that backing the blue is an in vogue thing unless you are trying to interfere with the take over of the Capitol or you are investigating and arresting someone from one's own party, then you are part of a grand conspiracy. What is wrong with these people. Does anyone know what Representatives Gaetz view on term limits are? Now might be a perfect time to persuade me to change my opposition to it.

OK, I need to clarify. My bad. I wasn't talking about the common man, average Joe or Jane. I was talking about the higher ups in our power base. The elected officials, the appointed officials. Why can't they just say "thanks but no thanks"?

Okay that answer is a lot easier. First they have no conscience. Second they have they have found a gold mine in hyper-politicization. Third they have tasted the blood in authoritarian power. Fourth they have chosen to reject democracy and consider it a weakness. Again, just my opinion and I hope I am wrong...

What I find the most sadly humorous is that backing the blue is an in vogue thing unless you are trying to interfere with the take over of the Capitol or you are investigating and arresting someone from one's own party, then you are part of a grand conspiracy. What is wrong with these people. Does anyone know what Representatives Gaetz view on term limits are? Now might be a perfect time to persuade me to change my opposition to it.

I think the elephant in the room is whether or not we Trust elected officials to represent us. In a democracy there must be trust but verify. Politicians do say a lot of words and I don't think we should rely more on their words than we do their actions. We need good information sources. Not biased information sources. Our American democracy is being affected by social media, 24 hour mainstream media and tons of misinformation coming from extremely biased sources. So conspiracies are easier to get started and even become like a cult following of people who do not care about anything but selfish reasoning. We the people have to first recognize our selfishness before searching for accurate information. Humans are greedy and selfish. Politicians are human. Democracy is a slow process of getting things right. We want to believe that the people we vote for are good but a democracy requires us to continue our verification process. The longer a human has power the more opportunity there is for corruption. HOWEVER there are exceptions and I believe Joe Biden is a good human. He may be a rare exception. Anyway my point is that term limits is an issue that we the people need to be aligned on. I think term limits improve our democracy because it means that we will not get complacent on verification.

Does anyone know how many republicans have gone to the WH and demanded trump face the camera and tell his cult the truth?
The party had a spine in Nixon’s day.

Huh?
“It’s like throwing a match on a gasoline fire.”
Brian Kilmeade

This was so 2016.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"

Turns out he didn’t need to. His cult was willing to do five better in his name including beating a capital police officer to death.

Looks like Parler was very open...

70TB of Parler users’ data leaked by security researchers | CyberNews

The Nazi's didn't keep records this detailed.

Another thing I didn’t see coming from lowlife trump supporting scumbags.

Federal officials seek information on manatee harassment

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is investigating the harassment of a manatee. The animal was reported to federal authorities over the weekend when it was discovered with the words "Trump" scraped in its back.

You know a while back I was more than willing to accept that President Trump would have completed his term and would have hoped that he could have moved on. That has changed for me January 6th. I realize those who physically performed the actions should be held to account. I would have accepted the idea of a second term had the courts could have been convinced by the Presidents Lawyers. With that said, I support the idea of either Impeachment or invoking the 25th Amendment. I recieved an email today from someone I respect asking me to support a letter to the Vice President expressing his support for the President. I will not!

You know a while back I was more than willing to accept that President Trump would have completed his term and would have hoped that he could have moved on. That has changed for me January 6th. I realize those who physically performed the actions should be held to account. I would have accepted the idea of a second term had the courts could have been convinced by the Presidents Lawyers. With that said, I support the idea of either Impeachment or invoking the 25th Amendment. I recieved an email today from someone I respect asking me to support a letter to the Vice President expressing his support for the President. I will not!

I respect your decision but completely can't fathom what took you so long. The incompetence alone from day one is enough to want him out.
The damage to international relations, race relations, the environment, our fiscal health and to our fundamental democracy is staggering.

Okay that answer is a lot easier. First they have no conscience. Second they have they have found a gold mine in hyper-politicization. Third they have tasted the blood in authoritarian power. Fourth they have chosen to reject democracy and consider it a weakness. Again, just my opinion and I hope I am wrong...

I agree and I would simply say that they are either fascists or find something about fascism to be appealing. Trump of course is a full blown fascist. BTW, Godwin's law is now officially obsolete. It is fully appropriate and necessary to use references to Nazis and Hitler when describing the current state of affairs.

Florida Congress members who voted to interfere in another state’s election certification in order to overturn a free and fair election after the deadly attempted coup instead of simply telling Floridians the truth.

Rick Scott (R-Fla.)
Kat Cammack (R-Fla.)
Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.)
Byron Donalds (R-Fla.)
Neal Dunn (R-Fla.)
Scott Franklin (R-Fla.)
Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.)
Carlos Gimenez (R-Fla.)
Brian Mast (R-Fla.)
Gregory Steube (R-Fla.)
Daniel Webster (R-Fla.)

Congress members who refused to wear masks for extended periods of time during lockdown for several hours in crowded quarters. Look who is right there in the middle.


Andy Biggs (Ariz.)

Mo Brooks (Ala.)

Michael Cloud (Texas)

Matt Gaetz (Fla.)

Paul Gosar (Ariz.)

Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.)

Doug LaMalfa (Calif.)

Markwayne Mullin (Okla.)

Scott Perry (Pa.)

You know a while back I was more than willing to accept that President Trump would have completed his term and would have hoped that he could have moved on. That has changed for me January 6th. I realize those who physically performed the actions should be held to account. I would have accepted the idea of a second term had the courts could have been convinced by the Presidents Lawyers. With that said, I support the idea of either Impeachment or invoking the 25th Amendment. I recieved an email today from someone I respect asking me to support a letter to the Vice President expressing his support for the President. I will not!

I hope that you hit reply all and set this person and any others on the email list straight.