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PoppaJ avatar
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#10128
Yep, they’ve gone full Nazi. Republicans purposely misrepresent memo and feign anger the DOJ wants to protect school board members from death threats. No surprise why their stupid low info followers attacked the Capitol.
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#10129
Now you know 2 of us, enjoy
Aren’t you actually a contractor who builds custom homes not simply the wage earning carpenter you claim to be?
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#10130
LVT Just read the article and I cannot get past some points that I have read. First it says Trump is 'reportedly' advising, second its states 'the letter, according to politico' (if they have a letter then show it), then it states Trump will use executive privilege (there is no executive privilege for past presidents), Biden has the right to expose this to daylight, if its true he should do so. We should all want the truth but that word does not carry the weight it once did. You are correct on the pleaded guilty, that being said it is hard to not plead guilty to parading, demonstrating, and picketing when they have footage of you doing those things. A lot of Americans have done all these things and yet only the Jan 6th people have been found guilty of a crime because of them, thats not right
What a joke of a post. Shaking my effin head.
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#10131
Now you know 2 of us, enjoy
I know plenty of carpenters. Based on your ignorant drivel, all are much finer human beings than you could ever hope to be.
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#10132
Now you know 2 of us, enjoy
Nope, I enjoy one of you, and you ain't one of them.
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#10134
They are being treated the same as others who forced their way through police barriers and broke into the Capitol with the intention of forcing Congress to suspend performing their official duties. Remember, they weren’t convicted, they pleaded guilty.I don’t understand the disconnect. Are there other federal government buildings where this took place you are referring to?
Funny you should ask, let me share a link and then lets play a game called 'were they punished equally'

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#10135
They are being treated the same as others who forced their way through police barriers and broke into the Capitol with the intention of forcing Congress to suspend performing their official duties. Remember, they weren’t convicted, they pleaded guilty.I don’t understand the disconnect. Are there other federal government buildings where this took place you are referring to?
What proof do you have that they 'broke into the Capitol with the intention of forcing Congress to suspend performing their official duties'. PROOF
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#10136
Yep, they’ve gone full Nazi. Republicans purposely misrepresent memo and feign anger the DOJ wants to protect school board members from death threats. No surprise why their stupid low info followers attacked the Capitol.
You couldn't get this more wrong if you tried
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#10137
What proof do you have that they 'broke into the Capitol with the intention of forcing Congress to suspend performing their official duties'. PROOF
WTF do you believe their goal was?
The theme of the rally was “Stop the Steal.”
In addition to being allowed to plead to a reduced charge prosecutors have insisted defendants fully admit the role they played — not just the individual criminal activity they’re pleading guilty to, but also enabling the attack on Congress and bolstering Trump’s effort to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power after he lost in November.

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#10138
You couldn't get this more wrong if you tried
Go read the memo, I posted it.
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#10139
Aren’t you actually a contractor who builds custom homes not simply the wage earning carpenter you claim to be?
I am a general contractor that specializes in custom homes but at my core I am a carpenter. I cannot wait until my son is at a point where he can run the day to day of our companies and I can go back out into the field. I love doing carpenter work, running equipment, and figuring headaches out but the money is in running the whole show and I have a family to take care of. When I retire I will build custom furniture which is a passion of mine. I never claimed to be or never have been a wage earner, I started my first business at 22 when I retired from minor league baseball. I'm a 3rd generation tradesmen training the 4th generation.
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#10140
I know plenty of carpenters. Based on your ignorant drivel, all are much finer human beings than you could ever hope to be.
LOTB, You don't know me at all what would make you say something like this? Just let me know when you'd like to grab that lunch, my treat.
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#10141
Funny you should ask, let me share a link and then lets play a game called 'were they punished equally'



Thanks for the link. I like this part,

But in a tweet, Donald Trump described the protesters as “Domestic Terrorists” who “have taken over Seattle, run by Radical Left Democrats, of course. LAW & ORDER!”

Post a link where the lying POS made the statement about the Jan, 6 rioters.

You forget this is state jurisdiction, but trump’s DOJ jumped right in with trump even throwing in his Antifa obsession.

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#10142
Nope, I enjoy one of you, and you ain't one of them.
Please rewrite this in english, Thx
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#10143
I am a general contractor that specializes in custom homes but at my core I am a carpenter. I cannot wait until my son is at a point where he can run the day to day of our companies and I can go back out into the field. I love doing carpenter work, running equipment, and figuring headaches out but the money is in running the whole show and I have a family to take care of. When I retire I will build custom furniture which is a passion of mine. I never claimed to be or never have been a wage earner, I started my first business at 22 when I retired from minor league baseball. I'm a 3rd generation tradesmen training the 4th generation.
So the answer is yes.
I am very happy for you for building a successful business through your hard work.
My brother and I were also carpenters right after our military service.
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#10144
WTF do you believe their goal was?
The theme of the rally was “Stop the Steal.”
In addition to being allowed to plead to a reduced charge prosecutors have insisted defendants fully admit the role they played — not just the individual criminal activity they’re pleading guilty to, but also enabling the attack on Congress and bolstering Trump’s effort to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power after he lost in November.
Please open your mind for a second while you read this.
For example do you think every person that goes to a George Floyd rally goes with the intention of burning stuff or looting? Of coarse not but nothing is going to stop the small percentage of bad element from either side
Post a link or video of someone admitting to being part of a Trump or Repub driven coup
The major issue I have about the point you are pushing is this. How could they have overturned the election? You are saying they went there to overturn the election, how would this have been accomplished? This argument doesn't make sense unless you take over everything and if that was the case Jan 6th would have been insanely violent not just one protestor getting shot by a scared cop (who I think was in the right and justified because I believe he felt he had to shoot her)
This is the reason I can't get on board with what the left is pushing, there was no path to overturn.
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#10145
So the answer is yes.
I am very happy for you for building a successful business through your hard work.
My brother and I were also carpenters right after our military service.
You want a job? Also thank you for your service
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#10146
You want a job? Also thank you for your service
Thanks, but no. I had to give it up back then because of my service connected epilepsy. I did enjoy it though. Have never been a behind the desk type.
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#10147
Thanks for the link. I like this part,

But in a tweet, Donald Trump described the protesters as “Domestic Terrorists” who “have taken over Seattle, run by Radical Left Democrats, of course. LAW & ORDER!”

Post a link where the lying POS made the statement about the Jan, 6 rioters.

You forget this is state jurisdiction, but trump’s DOJ jumped right in with trump even throwing in his Antifa obsession.

Poppa, Please open your mind again for my post. Let me be clear just because I support Trump doesn't mean I like the guy as a person. Trump, as many of us, has a lot of faults. I could list them just like you guys but my would lack the personal insults. My support of Trump comes from a very basic concept, politicians have got us in the mess that are country is currently in and no politician (from either side) will ever get us out. I know America is not a business but we need a business man in there to get it heading in the right direction. I am not saying Trump is that businessman but I hoe you can at least follow my reason for supporting him. To me its kind of like this, I don't think anyone truly voted for Biden I think the majority of our citizens voted against Trump. Does that make sense?
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#10148
Thanks, but no. I had to give it up back then because of my service connected epilepsy. I did enjoy it though. Have never been a behind the desk type.
I hate being at my desk, thats why I argue with people on the internet. :)
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#10149
Please open your mind for a second while you read this.
For example do you think every person that goes to a George Floyd rally goes with the intention of burning stuff or looting? Of coarse not but nothing is going to stop the small percentage of bad element from either side
Post a link or video of someone admitting to being part of a Trump or Repub driven coup
The major issue I have about the point you are pushing is this. How could they have overturned the election? You are saying they went there to overturn the election, how would this have been accomplished? This argument doesn't make sense unless you take over everything and if that was the case Jan 6th would have been insanely violent not just one protestor getting shot by a scared cop (who I think was in the right and justified because I believe he felt he had to shoot her)
This is the reason I can't get on board with what the left is pushing, there was no path to overturn.
They believed they had a path but it failed. They truly believed Pence could halt it so they could convince some states to install new electors. They needed to stall for time to achieve that goal. Whether it would have worked or not doesn’t matter, they believed it.
I also don’t believe the violence was planned, but trump, Brooks, and Giuliani underestimated how really stupid and gullible their audience was when giving their fire and brimstone speeches lying by telling them the election was stolen.

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#10150
Poppa, Please open your mind again for my post. Let me be clear just because I support Trump doesn't mean I like the guy as a person. Trump, as many of us, has a lot of faults. I could list them just like you guys but my would lack the personal insults. My support of Trump comes from a very basic concept, politicians have got us in the mess that are country is currently in and no politician (from either side) will ever get us out. I know America is not a business but we need a business man in there to get it heading in the right direction. I am not saying Trump is that businessman but I hoe you can at least follow my reason for supporting him. To me its kind of like this, I don't think anyone truly voted for Biden I think the majority of our citizens voted against Trump. Does that make sense?
No I can’t follow your reasons because his is a proven lifelong lying conman. For him revenge and cruelty has always been job one.
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#10151
They believed they had a path but it failed. They truly believed Pence could halt it so they could convince some states to install new electors. They needed to stall for time to achieve that goal.
I also don’t believe the violence was planned, but trump, Brooks, and Giuliani underestimated how really stupid and gullible their audience was when giving their fire and brimstone speeches lying by telling them the election was stolen.
I would believe this if I weren't actually in the mix. One of the major issue that led to Jan 6th was that people on the right did not think it was even remotely possible for Biden to have won, that is why they (we) felt like something illegal had happened. I am not saying it did I am telling you about the right thought process, this does not make us bad people. That combined (or multiplied) with the right side media makes our side feel as though it was robbed. The major percentage of people went on Jan 6th because they were mad, I do not believe they went to the capital with the intention of overturning the election results. They were mad and then the mob mentality took over because of a few bad eggs. As I said before, if the Jan 6th people went in there to cause destruction and hurt people there wouldn't be a capital there today and a lot of people would have been killed. As someone on the right, I pride myself on law and order and Jan 6th diminished our cause. I do not like it but I understand it

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