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Matt J avatar
SWGB
#10377
Lou if you truly don't like taxes, gloriously enshrined in our infallible constitution, then I'd suggest you take the advice I'm sure you've yelled at someone different:

Love it or leave it.
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Beach FanaticAuthor
#10378
The part where you expect to be taken serious when you say you don’t like socialism, but really do when you relabel it social program.
The part where you say the government has no money yet we are a self governing republic. The government is us, we are the government. We all know where the money comes from you weren’t enlightening anyone.
And this,

“You not simple you care for your fellow people which is very honorable”

No idea wtf you’re trying say.

Oh, and the other post where you claim ignorance you didn’t alter it.
I'm still trying to figure this one out: "Now I am not saying there wasn't an element there that did not have bad intentions but there are extremist on both sides of the isle."

I don't think it means what he thinks it means, but does it??:creepy:
Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10379
Most folks on here are pretty consistent in their beliefs. I also recognize that overtime those beliefs can change. Some transform a whole lot faster than expected.
Beach Fanatic
#10380
Nan
Lets make sure we are not confusing Socialism with social program. No good person left or right wants to see people go without but when able bodied people sit home and collect instead of working thats when some people start pushing back. I do not know anyone against school taxes until the money is being wasted. No one is against real infrastructure improvements until you try to wrap them up with money being sent to Afghanistan for gender studies. A lot of people do not understand that there is no such thing a government funded, the government has no money that was not taken from a taxpayer and the amount of people paying taxes in this country is diminishing. There should be no such thing as welfare for people that can work. There should be workfare. You not simple you care for your fellow people which is very honorable
Lou, if you do not want to lose credibility then you need to stop using your anger to generalize into a hypocritical rant against our social programs that are in fact socialism policies. To use your logic again I do not think I hear anyone on the left saying they want our entire government to operate on pure socialism. What you are really complaining about is that you can't find workers willing to work for minimum wage any more so just be honest. If you want workers pay them a living wage. If you do not want your money wasted then get involved in your local school districts. Arm chair quarterbacking is a lazy man's game. If you want Congress to stop putting in a lot of pork into these huge spending packages then again call your congressmen. Stop blaming government if you are not going to be involved in the process. I can tell you voting is NOT enough because politicians say one thing and do another sometimes. You and I need to be accountable and hold our representatives accountable. You are just being complacent if you think you can hire a man like trump to hold anyone's feet to the fire because his character is at the very least poor if not worse.

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Beach Fanatic
#10381
Mput
How was I wrong about the loss of life?

You asked if I knew what Trump said about Pence, I asked which time, your reply is that my mind won't allow the truth, is this really how you guys process info?

The NE is only brash to people that didn't grow up there

I played a lot of sports as well.

Dolald Trump would tell you he works hard but in his mind he might think that. What is hard work to one person is not to another. I have worked hard my whole life but compared to someone that works really hard I'm sure my life would be considered easy. To answer your question I do not think Trump has ever worked a hard day in his life

Calling me foolish is your opinion and doesn't bother me at all

My opinion is the left can be foolish

Your last sentence is where it gets odd. I couldn't care less about Donald Trump anymore, he isn't the president and has no bearing on my life. The left is infatuated with him, you guys cannot let him go. It really is sick how bad the TDS is with almost everyone I know on the left. He lives in your mind all the time. You cannot bring up Biden without the left bringing up Trump. Hopefully you guys will get better soon
So trump never admits that he can be wrong and you seem to be following his path so that is my logic. I am infatuated with very few things in life but fishing for mullet might be one :) If I never heard the name Donald Trump again it would be very nice but he now has found politics to be a money making machine so he is now a politician by his own words. Yes we can all be foolish including myself and those big groups of people you like to label as leftist. Your mind is not able to accept that you can be foolish...but maybe one day!
Beach Fanatic
#10382
I agree a 2 party system does not work. Not enough good choices
There is common ground...if only our minds would allow it :)
Beach Fanatic
#10383
Most folks on here are pretty consistent in their beliefs. I also recognize that overtime those beliefs can change. Some transform a whole lot faster than expected.
My rational brain says that is true. Mother time will help us change. My irrational brain says that our beliefs are worth fighting for. It is a battle within our mind to find peace...
Beach Fanatic
#10386
You actually did say, "I do want a civil war" BTW.
Looking back I stand corrected, you are like a ninga, I must have posted it for 2 minutes before I realized I forgot to type the word not. My bad
Beach Fanatic
#10387
So trump never admits that he can be wrong and you seem to be following his path so that is my logic. I am infatuated with very few things in life but fishing for mullet might be one :) If I never heard the name Donald Trump again it would be very nice but he now has found politics to be a money making machine so he is now a politician by his own words. Yes we can all be foolish including myself and those big groups of people you like to label as leftist. Your mind is not able to accept that you can be foolish...but maybe one day!
Does it bother you that I address all of your questions and points and you do not do the same?
For example you ask a direct question about how many people died on Jan 6th, I answer, you reply I'm wrong, I ask how, your reply is that I am like Trump. Is this how it done? Seems odd to me
elgordoboy avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10388
And somehow mputnal surmises that you are mad that you have to pay more than minimum wage. Absolutely making stuff up. The game is checkers and occasionally beginner chess around here. and mputnal is stuck on playing tic tac toe.
Beach Fanatic
#10389
And somehow mputnal surmises that you are mad that you have to pay more than minimum wage. Absolutely making stuff up. The game is checkers and occasionally beginner chess around here. and mputnal is stuck on playing tic tac toe.
This bee has decided not to spend any more time explaining to fly's why honey is better then s**t
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#10390
Looking back I stand corrected, you are like a ninga, I must have posted it for 2 minutes before I realized I forgot to type the word not. My bad
You posted at 2:51am, I posted at 9:06am here it is 8:00 pm and the original post still says “I do want a civil war.”
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Beach FanaticAuthor
#10391
You posted at 2:51am, I posted at 9:06am here it is 8:00 pm and the original post still says “I do want a civil war.”
This reminds me of something Trump would do. Deny a reality that the rest of us can plainly see with our own eyes and ears.
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Beach FanaticAuthor
#10392
Looking back I stand corrected, you are like a ninga, I must have posted it for 2 minutes before I realized I forgot to type the word not. My bad
Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10393
This reminds me of something Trump would do. Deny a reality that the rest of us can plainly see with our own eyes and ears.
Alternate Universe ;)
Beach Fanatic
#10394
Does it bother you that I address all of your questions and points and you do not do the same?
For example you ask a direct question about how many people died on Jan 6th, I answer, you reply I'm wrong, I ask how, your reply is that I am like Trump. Is this how it done? Seems odd to me
If I have not answered your questions my bad. I think you said there were no people who died then you admitted to one and now not admitting to your mistake. Trump is not able to admit to any mistakes. In my opinion I think you are doing the same thing. My logic. Your oddness.

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Beach Fanatic
#10395
And somehow mputnal surmises that you are mad that you have to pay more than minimum wage. Absolutely making stuff up. The game is checkers and occasionally beginner chess around here. and mputnal is stuck on playing tic tac toe.
You have given up a lot of X's :)

As a small businessman myself I would rather keep labor expenses low because of taxes but there is a lot of demand for labor. I have found out the hard way "probably" like Louy that the only way to keep good labor is to pay them a living wage. It seems to me that Louy would rather blame something else on the problem as I did too...until I woke up from my thick head of entitlements! You seem to be a very sarcastic person. I have been wrong before though :)
Beach Fanatic
#10396
This bee has decided not to spend any more time explaining to fly's why honey is better then s**t
The only way to prevent your civil war is for us to keep talking and explaining our sh**t so I hope you will find the time. People can be very hateful and none of us are really immune to those emotions. I have had many battles with LOTB and Poppaj in the past. Nasty things were said by all of us. I would like to believe that we have found some respect along the way but it takes a lot of work and a lot of self reflection. I would like to think I am a better person for it. We will never agree on everything but it is the respect that is most important...
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#103971
Nan
Lets make sure we are not confusing Socialism with social program. No good person left or right wants to see people go without but when able bodied people sit home and collect instead of working thats when some people start pushing back. I do not know anyone against school taxes until the money is being wasted. No one is against real infrastructure improvements until you try to wrap them up with money being sent to Afghanistan for gender studies. A lot of people do not understand that there is no such thing a government funded, the government has no money that was not taken from a taxpayer and the amount of people paying taxes in this country is diminishing. There should be no such thing as welfare for people that can work. There should be workfare. You not simple you care for your fellow people which is very honorable
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elgordoboy avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10398
You have given up a lot of X's :)

As a small businessman myself I would rather keep labor expenses low because of taxes but there is a lot of demand for labor. I have found out the hard way "probably" like Louy that the only way to keep good labor is to pay them a living wage. It seems to me that Louy would rather blame something else on the problem as I did too...until I woke up from my thick head of entitlements! You seem to be a very sarcastic person. I have been wrong before though :)
And you persist in being wrong here on the forum. You are probably a nice and thoughtful guy irl. I’m going to try and let you be and just skip over your posts going forward. i think you have a need to express yourself here in the odd manner that you do. And as you mentioned before I don’t have to read them. That was good advice. Peace
elgordoboy avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10399
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Is it possible for Bob to learn some skills and go get a job with Shell and move away from the food stamps? Then he can be earning a better than living wage and Shell can share some of that $2,000,000,000 a year with Bob as they do with countless others?
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#10400
Is it possible for Bob to learn some skills and go get a job with Shell and move away from the food stamps? Then he can be earning a better than living wage and Shell can share some of that $2,000,000,000 a year with Bob as they do with countless others?
Possibly. Not sure what Bob’s situation is. Maybe he is temporarily unemployed because he lost his job when his company moved operations overseas to cut labor costs. Maybe he has an injury or disablity and no insurance because we have the “greatest healthcare in the world.” Maybe he was laid off because his employer found someone to work for less. I really don’t know. I do know feeding Bob and his family doesn’t make me suffer or feel cheated in any way.
Beach Fanatic
#10401
And you persist in being wrong here on the forum. You are probably a nice and thoughtful guy irl. I’m going to try and let you be and just skip over your posts going forward. i think you have a need to express yourself here in the odd manner that you do. And as you mentioned before I don’t have to read them. That was good advice. Peace
We agree on you not reading my wrong because two wrongs don't make a right :)

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