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Beach Comber
#10402
Nan
Lets make sure we are not confusing Socialism with social program.
I am not a We and I am not confused (curated, remember?) I do have a question for you though: Just who, in your way of thinking, is deciding (or will get to decide) who is and who is not able-bodied? Glioblastomas, diabetes, cancer, Parkinson's, rheumatoid arthritis and myriad other conditions and illnesses that can be devastating are not always evident to the untrained eye. Are you saying you or just some random person can effectively make those judgements to slap those labels on others? Feels like fear of the "Other" to me.
elgordoboy avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10403
Possibly. Not sure what Bob’s situation is. Maybe he is temporarily unemployed because he lost his job when his company moved operations overseas to cut labor costs. Maybe he has an injury or disablity and no insurance because we have the “greatest healthcare in the world.” Maybe he was laid off because his employer found someone to work for less. I really don’t know. I do know feeding Bob and his family doesn’t make me suffer or feel cheated in any way.
Quite possible. Maybe Bob irresponsibly had many children by many different women and Bob doesn’t mind being a deadbeat. We can both pick from the left and the right of the bell curve. Charity can, and does, provide for the feeding of Bob and his family, along with many others. I know, I’ve been there when I was young.

adding- I realized I am responding just to argue. In yours and Nans examples of Bobs, the minuscule numbers dont warrant a reaction. Give them $15000 a month in assistance, it won’t move the needle in a broad sense and those folks need it in one way or the other I’m sure. I don’t mind the Bobs that didn’t make smart choices getting the $1500 either. I believe that the social safety net keeps the peace and general unrest at bay. Better to write some checks than fend off some blows.

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PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#10404
Quite possible. Maybe Bob irresponsibly had many children by many different women and Bob doesn’t mind being a deadbeat. We can both pick from the left and the right of the bell curve. Charity can, and does, provide for the feeding of Bob and his family, along with many others. I know, I’ve been there when I was young.

adding- I realized I am responding just to argue. In yours and Nans examples of Bobs, the minuscule numbers dont warrant a reaction. Give them $15000 a month in assistance, it won’t move the needle in a broad sense and those folks need it in one way or the other I’m sure. I don’t mind the Bobs that didn’t make smart choices getting the $1500 either. I believe that the social safety net keeps the peace and general unrest at bay. Better to write some checks than fend off some blows.
True, Bob could be a lazy sh*thead, but I don’t care. I have no interest in means testing the hungry.
I want everyone fed. I want everyone to have health insurance. I want child care assistance for working mothers. I want every student guaranteed four years of college.
I believe giving people better choices help them make better choices.
elgordoboy avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10406
True, Bob could be a lazy sh*thead, but I don’t care. I have no interest in means testing the hungry.
I want everyone fed. I want everyone to have health insurance. I want child care assistance for working mothers. I want every student guaranteed four years of college.
I believe giving people better choices help them make better choices.
Or Trades school
Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10407
During the Clinton Administration they did a "program" in Minnesota or Wisconsin. The program was a welfare to work. The government subsidized an individual with continued financial assistance while they worked. I seem to remember it was a 3 year and that as the individual continued employment they would ween them off of public assistance. Program made sense then and believe it would make sense now. The saying, " give a person a fish you feed them for a day, teach a person to fish they feed themselves for life."
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#10408
Or Trades school
Absolutely
ottomatik avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10409
The office of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis says that more than 70 night-time flights moving migrants from the border landed in Jacksonville since the summer -- amid concerns about the effects of the border crisis on states across the country.

"Over 70 air charter flights [on] jetliner airliners coming from the southwest border have landed at Jacksonville International Airport," Larry Keefe, DeSantis’s public safety czar, told The Washington Examiner.

Looking @ the

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find a job, fill a job, barter services

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Rentals - Long Term New​

list or find a rental, roommates .

Perhaps the Biden lovers here should contact him & ask him to fly a few thousand to Panama City Airport or Eglin
Leader of the Banned avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#10410
The office of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis says that more than 70 night-time flights moving migrants from the border landed in Jacksonville since the summer -- amid concerns about the effects of the border crisis on states across the country.

"Over 70 air charter flights [on] jetliner airliners coming from the southwest border have landed at Jacksonville International Airport," Larry Keefe, DeSantis’s public safety czar, told The Washington Examiner.

Looking @ the

Employment New​

find a job, fill a job, barter services

&

Rentals - Long Term New​

list or find a rental, roommates .

Perhaps the Biden lovers here should contact him & ask him to fly a few thousand to Panama City Airport or Eglin
If they did, I'm sure the collective IQ and overall classiness would skyrocket. But that's not saying much.
Leader of the Banned avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#10411
Quite possible. Maybe Bob irresponsibly had many children by many different women and Bob doesn’t mind being a deadbeat. We can both pick from the left and the right of the bell curve. Charity can, and does, provide for the feeding of Bob and his family, along with many others. I know, I’ve been there when I was young.

adding- I realized I am responding just to argue. In yours and Nans examples of Bobs, the minuscule numbers dont warrant a reaction. Give them $15000 a month in assistance, it won’t move the needle in a broad sense and those folks need it in one way or the other I’m sure. I don’t mind the Bobs that didn’t make smart choices getting the $1500 either. I believe that the social safety net keeps the peace and general unrest at bay. Better to write some checks than fend off some blows.
I gues you're not Demanically possessed like I thought.
Beach Fanatic
#10412
Quite possible. Maybe Bob irresponsibly had many children by many different women and Bob doesn’t mind being a deadbeat. We can both pick from the left and the right of the bell curve. Charity can, and does, provide for the feeding of Bob and his family, along with many others. I know, I’ve been there when I was young.

adding- I realized I am responding just to argue. In yours and Nans examples of Bobs, the minuscule numbers dont warrant a reaction. Give them $15000 a month in assistance, it won’t move the needle in a broad sense and those folks need it in one way or the other I’m sure. I don’t mind the Bobs that didn’t make smart choices getting the $1500 either. I believe that the social safety net keeps the peace and general unrest at bay. Better to write some checks than fend off some blows.
How would you separate the deadbeats? Start at the top with all the trillions of dollars of corporate welfare and too big to fail nonsense. There is no left and right in the middle "class". Our backbone is in the middle...

Oh, never mind you are not reading my posts right?
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#10413
The office of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis says that more than 70 night-time flights moving migrants from the border landed in Jacksonville since the summer -- amid concerns about the effects of the border crisis on states across the country.

"Over 70 air charter flights [on] jetliner airliners coming from the southwest border have landed at Jacksonville International Airport," Larry Keefe, DeSantis’s public safety czar, told The Washington Examiner.

Looking @ the

Employment New​

find a job, fill a job, barter services

&

Rentals - Long Term New​

list or find a rental, roommates .

Perhaps the Biden lovers here should contact him & ask him to fly a few thousand to Panama City Airport or Eglin
Maybe you could re-post your objections when trump was doing this.
Leader of the Banned avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#10414
I would concede to your point but NO ONE has been charged with any of the high crimes we constantly hear about (insurrection, treason, ect)
Beach Lover
#10415
None. Let’s go, Brandon!View attachment 91590
Three of the greatest Americans ever thanks for the pic so proud of them.
Biden’s greatest accomplishment just getting that moron out of our house.
Thank you America.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#10416
Those wiley wascals are at it again.

PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#10417
Just one of many examples how today’s GOP is now a party of domestic terrorists.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#10418
What a great list! Could not have said it better. Thanks.
I guess he’s pissed there’s no tax cut for the 1%
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Skunky
#10419
Gas prices dropped about three cents this week. Look for the rednecks that posted the 'I did that' stickers to start getting nervous soon :rolleyes:
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#10420
Yes, his interference killed people. Lock him up!
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#10421
Gas prices dropped about three cents this week. Look for the rednecks that posted the 'I did that' stickers to start getting nervous soon :rolleyes:

You mean the ones I pull off when I see them. Perhaps they'll replace them with chairman Xi's saying "I did that"?
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#10422
Why Doesn’t He Admit He Voted Against It?

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SoWal Insider
#10423
Why Doesn’t He Admit He Voted Against It?

Spineless hypocrisy is just standard operating procedure for the GQP. In days past, it would have been headline scandal. Now, it's just cute. Gosh, how stupid is his constituency?
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#10424
Under report job losses for trump and under report job gains for Biden.

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