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Putting aside the legality of the whole thing, I have a bunch of questions.

• Did President "Return to Normalcy" approve this, or is America now run by a shadow government? Biden claims he didn't know about the raid. If true, that's even scarier than the raid.
• Has Merrick Garland erased any doubt that the Deep State is a genuine threat to our republic?
• Is there any need for more evidence to fire Chris Wray and impeach Merrick Garland?
• Has anyone made a stronger argument than Merrick Garland for limited government?
• Does this raid undermine or reinforce the notion that we now have a two-tiered justice system?
• If searches of ex-presidents are now accepted practice, who has the most to hide: Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, or Joe "Ten Percent for the Big Guy" Biden? It's a valid question because they're all fair game now.
• Is it just a coincidence that Director Wray cut his Senate testimony short, and skedaddled out of Washington just days before the raid? Might he have been worried about a leak concerning the raid while he was still seated before Senator Grassley?
• Do we have enough now to at least start talking seriously about disbanding the FBI?
• Is this the "return to normalcy" that the Democrats promised us?
• Has this action "red-pilled" any traditional Democrat voters? Has this action shamed any of them, similar to how the FBI has shamed former agents?
• Will this raid encourage or discourage Democrat voters from going to the polls in November?
• Has this action gotten any independent voters off of the fence? If so, are they likely to fall left or right after news of the raid?
• Are people suffering through stagflation getting sick of the Democrat party's obsession with the last election?
• Will this raid enhance or poison future legislative cooperation?
• Will this be the "crossing of the Rubicon" that actually forces RINOs to take a side?
• Did the NeverTrumps not see the character of the people they were climbing into bed with? Do they see now that they should have used protection?
• Is this the kind of banana republic b------- that the NeverTrumps meant to unleash on America when they sided with the Dems?
• Where do the NeverTrumps stand on the raid? Are they against or in support of the action? Do they have any principles left, or has hatred burned their consciences to ashes?
• What is Liz Cheney's position on the raid? Does her hatred of Trump outweigh her love of country? I have the same question for Kevin "Real Man" Costner and Senator Pierre Delecto.
• Has this raid increased or decreased the likelihood that The Donald will run again? I'm sure the Dems have contemplated this question a lot.
• Has this raid increased or decreased the likelihood of The Donald being re-elected? I'm pretty sure the Dems didn't spend much time thinking this one out.
• Did the Dems consider that this action might actually help to rehabilitate Trump's image? They created an America in which victimhood is admired — and they just made Trump public victim number one.
• Has Merrick Garland converted Trump from a mean-tweeting ogre to a sympathetic martyr yet?
• Could the Biden administration have possibly done anything more potent to maximize Republican turnout in November?
• Has this angered average Americans? If so, how are they likely to respond? Did the Dems devote even one brain cell to that question?

These are not rhetorical questions. I have suspicions about the answers — but I don't know for sure. I am pretty sure the Democrats don't know, either — which makes this raid seem all the more desperate.

Tell me again how MAGA isn't winning. If the sun were really setting on MAGA, would the left and its servants in the Deep State be acting like this? Desperation is never a sign of strength or confidence.

Putting aside the legality, Trump is not a felon.

Putting aside the legality of the whole thing, I have a bunch of questions.

• Did President "Return to Normalcy" approve this, or is America now run by a shadow government? Biden claims he didn't know about the raid. If true, that's even scarier than the raid.
• Has Merrick Garland erased any doubt that the Deep State is a genuine threat to our republic?
• Is there any need for more evidence to fire Chris Wray and impeach Merrick Garland?
• Has anyone made a stronger argument than Merrick Garland for limited government?
• Does this raid undermine or reinforce the notion that we now have a two-tiered justice system?
• If searches of ex-presidents are now accepted practice, who has the most to hide: Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, or Joe "Ten Percent for the Big Guy" Biden? It's a valid question because they're all fair game now.
• Is it just a coincidence that Director Wray cut his Senate testimony short, and skedaddled out of Washington just days before the raid? Might he have been worried about a leak concerning the raid while he was still seated before Senator Grassley?
• Do we have enough now to at least start talking seriously about disbanding the FBI?
• Is this the "return to normalcy" that the Democrats promised us?
• Has this action "red-pilled" any traditional Democrat voters? Has this action shamed any of them, similar to how the FBI has shamed former agents?
• Will this raid encourage or discourage Democrat voters from going to the polls in November?
• Has this action gotten any independent voters off of the fence? If so, are they likely to fall left or right after news of the raid?
• Are people suffering through stagflation getting sick of the Democrat party's obsession with the last election?
• Will this raid enhance or poison future legislative cooperation?
• Will this be the "crossing of the Rubicon" that actually forces RINOs to take a side?
• Did the NeverTrumps not see the character of the people they were climbing into bed with? Do they see now that they should have used protection?
• Is this the kind of banana republic b------- that the NeverTrumps meant to unleash on America when they sided with the Dems?
• Where do the NeverTrumps stand on the raid? Are they against or in support of the action? Do they have any principles left, or has hatred burned their consciences to ashes?
• What is Liz Cheney's position on the raid? Does her hatred of Trump outweigh her love of country? I have the same question for Kevin "Real Man" Costner and Senator Pierre Delecto.
• Has this raid increased or decreased the likelihood that The Donald will run again? I'm sure the Dems have contemplated this question a lot.
• Has this raid increased or decreased the likelihood of The Donald being re-elected? I'm pretty sure the Dems didn't spend much time thinking this one out.
• Did the Dems consider that this action might actually help to rehabilitate Trump's image? They created an America in which victimhood is admired — and they just made Trump public victim number one.
• Has Merrick Garland converted Trump from a mean-tweeting ogre to a sympathetic martyr yet?
• Could the Biden administration have possibly done anything more potent to maximize Republican turnout in November?
• Has this angered average Americans? If so, how are they likely to respond? Did the Dems devote even one brain cell to that question?

These are not rhetorical questions. I have suspicions about the answers — but I don't know for sure. I am pretty sure the Democrats don't know, either — which makes this raid seem all the more desperate.

Tell me again how MAGA isn't winning. If the sun were really setting on MAGA, would the left and its servants in the Deep State be acting like this? Desperation is never a sign of strength or confidence.

Putting aside the legality, Charles Manson was just an average Joe.

Putting aside the legality of the whole thing, I have a bunch of questions.

• Did President "Return to Normalcy" approve this, or is America now run by a shadow government? Biden claims he didn't know about the raid. If true, that's even scarier than the raid.
• Has Merrick Garland erased any doubt that the Deep State is a genuine threat to our republic?
• Is there any need for more evidence to fire Chris Wray and impeach Merrick Garland?
• Has anyone made a stronger argument than Merrick Garland for limited government?
• Does this raid undermine or reinforce the notion that we now have a two-tiered justice system?
• If searches of ex-presidents are now accepted practice, who has the most to hide: Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, or Joe "Ten Percent for the Big Guy" Biden? It's a valid question because they're all fair game now.
• Is it just a coincidence that Director Wray cut his Senate testimony short, and skedaddled out of Washington just days before the raid? Might he have been worried about a leak concerning the raid while he was still seated before Senator Grassley?
• Do we have enough now to at least start talking seriously about disbanding the FBI?
• Is this the "return to normalcy" that the Democrats promised us?
• Has this action "red-pilled" any traditional Democrat voters? Has this action shamed any of them, similar to how the FBI has shamed former agents?
• Will this raid encourage or discourage Democrat voters from going to the polls in November?
• Has this action gotten any independent voters off of the fence? If so, are they likely to fall left or right after news of the raid?
• Are people suffering through stagflation getting sick of the Democrat party's obsession with the last election?
• Will this raid enhance or poison future legislative cooperation?
• Will this be the "crossing of the Rubicon" that actually forces RINOs to take a side?
• Did the NeverTrumps not see the character of the people they were climbing into bed with? Do they see now that they should have used protection?
• Is this the kind of banana republic b------- that the NeverTrumps meant to unleash on America when they sided with the Dems?
• Where do the NeverTrumps stand on the raid? Are they against or in support of the action? Do they have any principles left, or has hatred burned their consciences to ashes?
• What is Liz Cheney's position on the raid? Does her hatred of Trump outweigh her love of country? I have the same question for Kevin "Real Man" Costner and Senator Pierre Delecto.
• Has this raid increased or decreased the likelihood that The Donald will run again? I'm sure the Dems have contemplated this question a lot.
• Has this raid increased or decreased the likelihood of The Donald being re-elected? I'm pretty sure the Dems didn't spend much time thinking this one out.
• Did the Dems consider that this action might actually help to rehabilitate Trump's image? They created an America in which victimhood is admired — and they just made Trump public victim number one.
• Has Merrick Garland converted Trump from a mean-tweeting ogre to a sympathetic martyr yet?
• Could the Biden administration have possibly done anything more potent to maximize Republican turnout in November?
• Has this angered average Americans? If so, how are they likely to respond? Did the Dems devote even one brain cell to that question?

These are not rhetorical questions. I have suspicions about the answers — but I don't know for sure. I am pretty sure the Democrats don't know, either — which makes this raid seem all the more desperate.

Tell me again how MAGA isn't winning. If the sun were really setting on MAGA, would the left and its servants in the Deep State be acting like this? Desperation is never a sign of strength or confidence.

Putting aside the legality, anyone can do anything, and it's OK.

"Putting aside the legality..." : The New GQP Campaign Slogan

Louisville Courier Journal today. Marc Murphy.

I voted for the man mainly to keep us from going off a cliff. Mission and so much more accomplished.

I am very proud of the old man on the left. He gets things done that are in all of our best interest. The old man on the right breaks the law, breaks all sorts of moral codes like lying and cheating and finally is the leader that wants to end our Democracy. Those that support the old man on the right will regret the day when they no longer can choose who represents us...

Former C.I.A. Director Agrees Republicans Are A Threat

She needs to get a SOWAL account. We've got a whole journal right here.

I'm fairly sure a lot of those epic back pages of this thread accurately predicted what his behavior has become. He has done even more heinous things than we ever predicted. Saying "we told you so", doesn't even come close to this nightmare. The latest revelation is that CIA briefers had to be quite clever in trying to keep him from pocketing top secret documents. Most likely he was planning to sell them to Vladimer, his soul mate.

I have to share part of an article from the Louisville Courier Journal. This republican secretary of state is so unrepublican. I wish he would leave the party but maybe he's going to try to change from within? Very un kentucky like:

"The Kentucky State Board of Elections voted unanimously Tuesday to certify the victories of six Republicans in primaries where losing candidates filed recount petitions, despite several of those cases still pending before courts.

Republican Secretary of State Michael Adams, the board’s chairman, indicated before the vote that only two races with a recount petition were relatively close, with one petition already being dismissed and the other race having a recount last week that showed no change in the outcome.

“We’ve had enough harm to our taxpayers and to our democracy by these folks,” Adams said before the vote to certify the general election ballot. “It’s time to put an end to this madness and certify these people and let them get on with their fall campaigns.”

These people are thoroughly broken, yet I can't muster an ounce of sympathy for them.

This might be old news. Trump says he is willing to use his magical powers to calm things down. Instead it comes off as an obvious threat.

"Donald Trump sent an ally with access to the DOJ to "pass along a message" to Attorney General Garland that "the country is on fire" and Trump is willing to act "to reduce the heat," according to the New York Times. The unusual attempt to secretly back channel with the DOJ, after Trump's home was searched and as he is the subject of multiple investigations, comes amidst "a spike in threats" to police identified by FBI director Christopher Wray, and several alarming incidents and arrests. MSNBC's Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports on the violent context for Trump's "message," and the failure of efforts to negotiate or "appease" individuals threatening violence to deter the rule of law. "

These people are thoroughly broken, yet I can't muster an ounce of sympathy for them.

The red hat is the MAGA stiff arm salute.

This might be old news. Trump says he is willing to use his magical powers to calm things down. Instead it comes off as an obvious threat.

"Donald Trump sent an ally with access to the DOJ to "pass along a message" to Attorney General Garland that "the country is on fire" and Trump is willing to act "to reduce the heat," according to the New York Times. The unusual attempt to secretly back channel with the DOJ, after Trump's home was searched and as he is the subject of multiple investigations, comes amidst "a spike in threats" to police identified by FBI director Christopher Wray, and several alarming incidents and arrests. MSNBC's Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports on the violent context for Trump's "message," and the failure of efforts to negotiate or "appease" individuals threatening violence to deter the rule of law. "

Yeah, maybe should have done that on January 6th. Not buying he is doing anything positive at this point.

Yeah, maybe should have done that on January 6th. Not buying he is doing anything positive at this point.

I think you may be missing the point of that story about Trump "reaching out " to the DOJ. He is basically saying "if you go easy on your attempts to prosecute me, THEN I will call off my thugs". Basic Mafia style bargaining. By thugs I am referring to the legions of low info white male bigots that have been indoctrinated by his rhetoric willfully disseminated by all right-wing media.

I think you may be missing the point of that story about Trump "reaching out " to the DOJ. He is basically saying "if you go easy on your attempts to prosecute me, THEN I will call off my thugs". Basic Mafia style bargaining. By thugs I am referring to the legions of low info white male bigots that have been indoctrinated by his rhetoric willfully disseminated by all right-wing media.

Thanks, I obviously missed it.

Yeah, maybe should have done that on January 6th. Not buying he is doing anything positive at this point.

I agree. He is saying that he has control of the mob, and I think it's rather incriminating. It could be taken as an admission that he incited the Jan 6 mob, and could have calmed them down a lot sooner than he did.

I think you may be missing the point of that story about Trump "reaching out " to the DOJ. He is basically saying "if you go easy on your attempts to prosecute me, THEN I will call off my thugs". Basic Mafia style bargaining. By thugs I am referring to the legions of low info white male bigots that have been indoctrinated by his rhetoric willfully disseminated by all right-wing media.

Yes, but I also think it implies that he thinks could have quieted the mob sooner on Jan 6. I think it's doubly incriminating. Statements like this will not help him with the Jan 6 investigation in my opinion.

The red hat is the MAGA stiff arm salute.

I think of it as the Hitler moustache. At one time, you wouldn't hesitate to grow one. Some time in the 30s, it would be unthinkable. That's how I feel about wearing a red baseball hat of any kind.

There is some progress in bringing her murderers to justice. DOJ is in charge now instead of the MAGA/ky AG/McMitch protégée, who is an African American who lives in Louisville. The LMPD chief is from Atlanta who appears to be doing a decent job compared to the men we've had. We will have a new mayor next year. Planned Parenthood recently supported the democratic candidate, guess who the police union supported. The small city within Louisville republican candidate did not run a MAGA primary campaign, so we're hopeful, that will continue in the fall. Would love to hear him disown MAGA. Ellen

Update from Louisville Courier Journal today:

More than two years after the killing of Breonna Taylor, a fourth Louisville Metro Police officer has been fired in connection with the March 2020 raid on her apartment.
Sgt. Kyle Meany, who joined the department in 2013, was terminated after meeting with Chief Erika Shields, the department announced Friday. The termination comes two weeks after Meany and three other former officers were indicted by a federal grand jury on various charges, largely relating to the search warrant that allowed officers to break in to Taylor’s apartment.
“I made the decision to terminate Sgt. Kyle Meany after careful consideration and not with ease,” Shields said in a statement provided Friday through an LMPD spokeswoman. “I fully respect the judicial process and realize Sergeant Meany has yet to be heard before a jury of his peers. That being said, he is facing multiple federal charges after a lengthy investigation by the DOJ. As an employer, the character of our organization is paramount and it is not reasonable to expect continued employment under such conditions.”
Why Meany was fired
Meany is accused of knowing the affidavit used to obtain the warrant was based on false information. His attorney, Brian Butler, said he is “not going to comment on any aspect of this case.”
“Your actions have brought discredit upon yourself and the department,” Shields wrote in a letter to Meany to begin the termination process last week. The letter cited his federal case as grounds for dismissal for violating LMPD’s policy regarding “Obedience to Rules and Regulations.”
“Your conduct has adversely affected the morale, operations and/or efficiency of the department,” Shields also wrote, using standard language sometimes used in termination letters for other LMPD personnel. “… Your conduct has severely damaged the image of our department within the community.”
Meany can appeal his termination to the Police Merit Board, which has a track record of rarely overturning firing decisions. Meany supervised the sincedisbanded Place-Based Investigations unit, which had secured the warrant for Taylor’s home along with four others as part of a larger narcotics investigation. Each warrant included “no-knock” clauses.
Meany has pleaded not guilty after being indicted on federal charges of deprivation of rights and giving a false statement to federal investigators.
The indictment alleges that Meany knew the affidavit used to get a warrant to search Taylor’s home included false, misleading and out-of-date information. He approved the warrant despite this knowledge and despite knowing the warrant would be executed by other officers, creating a dangerous situation, the indictment says.
His second charge of providing false information is related to the entry of Taylor’s home. Meany allegedly told FBI investigators that the police department’s SWAT unit had asked for noknock authority, when no such request had been made. After the federal indictments, LMPD announced the department had started the termination process for Meany and Detective Kelly Ann Goodlett, who retired the following day.
Meany is the fourth officer to be fired in relation to Taylor’s case.
Which LMPD officers have been fired after Breonna Taylor’s killing?
Former Detective Brett Hankison was the first to be fired by the department in June 2020.
He had worked for the department for about 17 years when he fired 10 rounds into Taylor’s apartment through a covered glass door and window during the raid. Three of those rounds traveled into an adjacent apartment with a man, pregnant woman and 5-year-old child inside, and he was subsequently charged with three counts of wanton endangerment by a state grand jury.
He was fired after a former interim chief called the rounds he shot “a shock to the conscience.” He appealed his firing to the Police Merit Board, but the appeal hearing was set aside until criminal proceedings concluded. He was found not guilty of those charges in March 2022 but is now facing the federal charges. He shot into the neighboring apartment, “without a lawful objective justifying the use of deadly force,” said Kristin Clarke, assistant attorney general for the Civil Rights Division, said during a news conference last week alongside U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland in Washington, D.C.
In January 2021, two more officers were fired. Myles Cosgrove was fired by former interim Chief Yvette Gentry for failing to “properly identify a target” when he shot 16 times into Taylor’s apartment. He also failed to use a body camera during the raid. He has filed a lawsuit appealing his termination.
He has not been charged criminally in relation to the case. Taylor was shot six times during the raid and Cosgrove fired the fatal bullet to her chest, according to Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron’s investigation.
Former Detective Joshua Jaynes also was fired in January 2021 for inserting what former interim police Chief Yvette Gentry found to be an untruthful statement in his sworn affidavit for the warrant to search Taylor’s apartment.
The federal charges against him include deprivation of rights, conspiracy and falsification of records in an FBI investigation. The indictment accuses Jayne of depriving Taylor of her constitutional rights by knowingly including false, misleading and out-of-date information in the affidavit used to obtain the warrant to search her home. Additionally, the affidavit in support of the search warrant omitted material information, and officers lacked probable cause for the search, according to the indictment.
The indictment alleges that after the raid, he continued his attempts to cover up his lies by conspiring with another detective and pressuring other officers to support his story.
His third federal charge is that he continued reiterating this false information in an official investigative letter given to investigators on May 1, 2020.

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Words have consequences.
Words have impact.
Incitement should be punished.
Remember In 1971, Manson was convicted of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder for the deaths of seven people, including the film actress Sharon Tate. The prosecution contended that, while Manson never directly ordered the murders, his ideology constituted an overt act of conspiracy.

The NRSC put Rick Scott, the Florida Man who oversaw the largest Medicare fraud in the nation's history, in charge of finances and they are having money problems.
Holy sht, who could have seen that coming?
What’s next, Matt Gaetz in charge of the Young Republicans?