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Would it help your comprehension if I would have written ALL before ex presidents. Sometimes the law id tough. FYI presidents terms don't end at the election, are you stupid? Not defending anyone just pointing out fact over emotion

You are starting to babble a little bit, so let me clarify. President's terms end when the next president is sworn in. Ex-presidents do not get to de-classify anything when they are ex-presidents. Also, nobody, not Trump, not Elvis, nor Jesus, can de-classify anything without going through the legal process of de-classifying documents. For somebody who isn't defending Trump, it sounds like you have been really rooting for him to behave like a dictator. But, he's just a dick.

This is comforting.

According to photos taken in the office, Trump's visitors in the room with the classified documents include Michael Flynn, Mike Lindell, Kari Lake, Matt Gaetz, George Hamilton, Vanilla Ice, Alex Rodriguez, and The Nelk Boys.

This is comforting.

According to photos taken in the office, Trump's visitors in the room with the classified documents include Michael Flynn, Mike Lindell, Kari Lake, Matt Gaetz, George Hamilton, Vanilla Ice, Alex Rodriguez, and The Nelk Boys.

I bet Kid Rock and Kanye are kind of feeling lonely tonight.

Would it help your comprehension if I would have written ALL before ex presidents. Sometimes the law id tough. FYI presidents terms don't end at the election, are you stupid? Not defending anyone just pointing out fact over emotion

I hate to break it to you, but you are a bundle of emotion. And no, presidents are not allowed to take government property home with them. Even if those documents are unclassified, his actions are theft at the very least. Even documents that are unclassified may still be sensitive. If they were top secret and trump waved his wand to declassify them, chances are it was an act of unconscionable irresponsibilty. Seeing as he stole the documents and never told anyone, the government is quite rightfully gravely concerned. They would most likely want to reclassify them, which they can do.

I hate to break it to you, but you are a bundle of emotion. And no, presidents are not allowed to take government property home with them. Even if those documents are unclassified, his actions are theft at the very least. Even documents that are unclassified may still be sensitive. If they were top secret and trump waved his wand to declassify them, chances are it was an act of unconscionable irresponsibilty. Seeing as he stole the documents and never told anyone, the government is quite rightfully gravely concerned. They would most likely want to reclassify them, which they can do.

Before you respond Lardman this response is posted by someone who has actually handled, had authorization and training with top secret and classified documents. In other words he speaks from experience and not talking points so maybe stop eating you're own foot.

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You are starting to babble a little bit, so let me clarify. President's terms end when the next president is sworn in. Ex-presidents do not get to de-classify anything when they are ex-presidents. Also, nobody, not Trump, not Elvis, nor Jesus, can de-classify anything without going through the legal process of de-classifying documents. For somebody who isn't defending Trump, it sounds like you have been really rooting for him to behave like a dictator. But, he's just a dick.

As per written documents (google it) Trump declassified ALL of the paperwork he would take with him when he would go to Florida. 2 days before he left office he declassified ALL of the documents he was taking. That being said did he probably take stuff he shouldn't have? I would say yes, as have every one of his predecessors for the last 6 elections. Lets also not overlook the fact that I, personally, cannot see a scenario where Trump himself was loading boxes to take when he left the White House. I'm sure staffers loaded up the boxes and took them out but yall act like Trump handpicked what he left with. No one said he declassified them after his term, that would be silly talk. As far as being a dick there are lots of them around

I hate to break it to you, but you are a bundle of emotion. And no, presidents are not allowed to take government property home with them. Even if those documents are unclassified, his actions are theft at the very least. Even documents that are unclassified may still be sensitive. If they were top secret and trump waved his wand to declassify them, chances are it was an act of unconscionable irresponsibilty. Seeing as he stole the documents and never told anyone, the government is quite rightfully gravely concerned. They would most likely want to reclassify them, which they can do.

LB, wrong again. I couldn't care less about any of it because I know none of us on Sowal makes 1 bit of difference in the grand scheme but I do love coming on here and seeing you guys all knotted up about someone that doesn't even know your alive. If he stole anything why isn't he in jail? Did either of the clintons go to jail when they took furniture? How about the documents Obama took? Lets at least be semi fair in are talking. I could never see the Donald being irresponsible (sarcasm)

As per written documents (google it) Trump declassified ALL of the paperwork he would take with him when he would go to Florida. 2 days before he left office he declassified ALL of the documents he was taking. That being said did he probably take stuff he shouldn't have? I would say yes, as have every one of his predecessors for the last 6 elections. Lets also not overlook the fact that I, personally, cannot see a scenario where Trump himself was loading boxes to take when he left the White House. I'm sure staffers loaded up the boxes and took them out but yall act like Trump handpicked what he left with. No one said he declassified them after his term, that would be silly talk. As far as being a dick there are lots of them around

There doesn’t seem to be any record of this de-classification you said happened. Let’s see some proof. Furthermore, there is signed statement from Trump’s lawyer that they returned ALL the documents in June. But, then the search found well over 200 pages of classified documents at Mara Lago, and some were found in his desk. So, if all these documents were de-classified, Trump only needs to show the written proof that they were declassified. Surely the US government has a documented procedure for de-classifying documents. Awaiting your dick-tated talking points from the Trump Defenders League.

Before you respond Lardman this response is posted by someone who has actually handled, had authorization and training with top secret and classified documents. In other words he speaks from experience and not talking points so maybe stop eating you're own foot.

It's PD. If this guy has actually handled classified documents then he knows what I'm saying is 100% accurate. If I am wrong at all please let me know, no foot eating here. FYI all of the info you guys are disputing is easy to look up, why not do that first? Just my opinion, when we meeting up PD?

You show your ignorance of the law. Anyone else would have been arrested and held without bail.

What crime do you know he committed?

If we are going to use our common sense I think you will agree that Trump makes a lot of mistakes and has not been held accountable for those mistakes. Accountability is not having a gang of lawyers fight your battles. You are okay with a man being above the law but there is NO common sense in that at all. You and I will be held accountable for our actions but trump lives a world where money and power allows you to "shoot someone in the street and get away with it". Trump is the king of corruption in terms of accountability. I know you know that trump is not "clean as a whistle". Not many people are clean as a whistle but the difference is most of us will be held accountable...even Joe Biden our President. I think you may have confused Old Joe with his son, Hunter who has not shown much accountability either. I believe if Hunter has broken as many laws as trump he will be held accountable. Ask yourself this question if hunter runs for President would you vote for him yet you would vote for trump. I hope your common sense is not corrupted by any man who has never been held accountable...

At last someone that wants to communicate like an adult. Yes Trump makes a lot of mistakes. Which mistakes do you feel require what level of accountability? Are you actually telling me what I am OK with? Did Trump shoot someone? When you say 'Trump is the king of corruption in terms of accountability' I'm not really sure what you mean. I agree Trump is not as clean as a whistle, no one I know is. Has Biden been held to account for some of his misdoings? I agree Hunter is above the law. In my opinion, I would say Hunter has broken a ton more laws then Trump. In case you actually cared let me tell you why people like Trump. It is because he is not part of the system, half this country thinks its silly to believe that the politicians that got us into the messes we are in are going to get us out of them. Its really just that simple. FYI we are surrounded by tons of people that have never had to face the music for their misdeeds. Thank you for being civil

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Thats actually pretty funny

It's PD. If this guy has actually handled classified documents then he knows what I'm saying is 100% accurate. If I am wrong at all please let me know, no foot eating here. FYI all of the info you guys are disputing is easy to look up, why not do that first? Just my opinion, when we meeting up PD?

Post one link to your research or STFU.

I'm wondering how many "Patriots" are going to keep defending the first President in US history to commit treason?

This is clearly lining up that Trump gave secrets to hostile country(ies). I'll bet anything my statement ages way better than, "but the Clintons took furniture".

LB, wrong again. I couldn't care less about any of it because I know none of us on Sowal makes 1 bit of difference in the grand scheme but I do love coming on here and seeing you guys all knotted up about someone that doesn't even know your alive. If he stole anything why isn't he in jail? Did either of the clintons go to jail when they took furniture? How about the documents Obama took? Lets at least be semi fair in are talking. I could never see the Donald being irresponsible (sarcasm)

You really are more ignorant than I could have ever imagined. It’s right there on the internet.

What crime do you know he committed?

At the very least, theft of government property, but bear in mind that it would be the job of the courts to make the final determination if he is brought to trial. The court of common sense also indicates he is guilty of obstruction of justice for his lack of cooperation in the matter. He's been asked nicely to hand over documents, and it looks like he has gone out of his way to hide them. Whether he turns out to be guilty, common sense enters the picture. Any reasonable person would agree that the government had every reason to be gravely concerned about possible damage caused by the information Trump literally stole. To imply that this search wasn't warranted is absurd. Even if you buy into the questionable argument that Trump declassified what were considered to be highly sensitive TOP SECRET document, the incoming administration has every right and reason to want to assess whether or not that decision to declassify was the result of sound judgement. Based on Trump's past history and character, a reasonable person would have every reason to think it was NOT. So not cooperating with a justifiable government inquiry into THEIR sensitive personal property, which was stolen from THEM, certainly seems like obstruction to me. I think the court of law would be in agreement with the court of common sense.

I'm wondering how many "Patriots" are going to keep defending the first President in US history to commit treason?

This is clearly lining up that Trump gave secrets to hostile country(ies). I'll bet anything my statement ages way better than, "but the Clintons took furniture".

When / how did Trump commit treason?

LB, wrong again. I couldn't care less about any of it because I know none of us on Sowal makes 1 bit of difference in the grand scheme but I do love coming on here and seeing you guys all knotted up about someone that doesn't even know your alive. If he stole anything why isn't he in jail? Did either of the clintons go to jail when they took furniture? How about the documents Obama took? Lets at least be semi fair in are talking. I could never see the Donald being irresponsible (sarcasm)

He is not in jail because of legal discretion. That's it.

At the very least, theft of government property, but bear in mind that it would be the job of the courts to make the final determination if he is brought to trial. The court of common sense also indicates he is guilty of obstruction of justice for his lack of cooperation in the matter. He's been asked nicely to hand over documents, and it looks like he has gone out of his way to hide them. Whether he turns out to be guilty, common sense enters the picture. Any reasonable person would agree that the government had every reason to be gravely concerned about possible damage caused by the information Trump literally stole. To imply that this search wasn't warranted is absurd. Even if you buy into the questionable argument that Trump declassified what were considered to be highly sensitive TOP SECRET document, the incoming administration has every right and reason to want to assess whether or not that decision to declassify was the result of sound judgement. Based on Trump's past history and character, a reasonable person would have every reason to think it was NOT. So not cooperating with a justifiable government inquiry into THEIR sensitive personal property, which was stolen from THEM, certainly seems like obstruction to me. I think the court of law would be in agreement with the court of common sense.

Your hatred of Trump has you reaching. How did he not cooperate? You keep using the term ' Any reasonable person' and 'court of common sense', these are your opinions, not fact or truth. Any president can declassify any document they want, period. You know this to be true (if you really did work with classified info). Who's personal property? What was stolen from who?

It's PD. If this guy has actually handled classified documents then he knows what I'm saying is 100% accurate. If I am wrong at all please let me know, no foot eating here. FYI all of the info you guys are disputing is easy to look up, why not do that first? Just my opinion, when we meeting up PD?

You couldn't possibly be more wrong and inaccurate.

As per written documents (google it) Trump declassified ALL of the paperwork he would take with him when he would go to Florida. 2 days before he left office he declassified ALL of the documents he was taking. That being said did he probably take stuff he shouldn't have? I would say yes, as have every one of his predecessors for the last 6 elections. Lets also not overlook the fact that I, personally, cannot see a scenario where Trump himself was loading boxes to take when he left the White House. I'm sure staffers loaded up the boxes and took them out but yall act like Trump handpicked what he left with. No one said he declassified them after his term, that would be silly talk. As far as being a dick there are lots of them around

Okay first of all are you a lawyer? I'm not. However trump's lawyers just pleaded today that those documents were like "overdue library books" If you and I have an overdue library book then you and I should be accountable. Now If you have taken a library book without checking it out first then it is called stealing the library book. That is what I would argue if I were a lawyer for we the people. You can not de-classify the library book because it was never yours to begin with. We the people own that library book. If you believe in our Democracy then you have trust in the Judicial branch of government. It is not perfect but it is a lot closer to perfect than the man you believe is above the law...

When / how did Trump commit treason?

This is an educated assessment. The only reason the DOJ hasn’t charged him is because they are trying to assess the extent of the damage. I think Matt is correct in his assessment. They have proof positive that he stole the documents. Prove positive that he obstructed justice. And the key thing is several of his lawyers are facing 10 years or more for the same charges. Why wouldn’t they turn on him?

Your hatred of Trump has you reaching. How did he not cooperate? You keep using the term ' Any reasonable person' and 'court of common sense', these are your opinions, not fact or truth. Any president can declassify any document they want, period. You know this to be true (if you really did work with classified info). Who's personal property? What was stolen from who?

No. Any president cannot declassify any document without going through documented procedure. Again, please prove that he de-classified these specific documents.

No. Any president cannot declassify any document without going through documented procedure. Again, please prove that he de-classified these specific documents.

Just google it