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Are you against all "Parks" or just the one's that the "left" supports. That is also a hypocrisy.

Trump has a lawsuit about misrepresenting the facts of his ability to repay a loan. This was after those multiple bankruptcies. That is how people who abuse power roll? They cheat the system. If someone owes you money and declares for bankruptcy I know it will hurt you. Trump hurts people to get what he wants when he wants it. He would not blink an eye to hurt your or my business. Not accepting how he hurts people and believing he cares about people is a hypocrisy.

When trump coined the phrase "lock her up" for those emails and then took classified and top secret documents to maragogo you justify his behavior again. That is hypocrisy.

Oh but there is even more hypocrisy in your posts but really I got to go now...

Do you own stock in the word hypocrisy?

It's the man in the arena....

Not simply a show. Sometimes the court of public opinion is the only one you get. Justice has become too political to hold politicians accountable. Too many lawyers int he hen house.

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I'm against forced birth. It's a form of torture.

So the unborn child has no rights in your view? When does it become a person with the same rights as you or I?

I do not agree with pretty much anything in your comment

That was predictable

I'm against killing the innocent, I'm for killing people that have done what I would consider a major wrong. I'm pretty sure I can make this call, I'll deal with the higher power when the time comes

Then you must be against war or there would be more hypocrisy.

So the unborn child has no rights in your view? When does it become a person with the same rights as you or I?

You see everything from a political lens and that is what gets us all in trouble with strong and uncompromising opinions. That lens filters out our common sense. Remove the lens and let’s go back to civil conversations that allow is to listen and learn things or maybe even help to see other perspectives. I think you want to do that but something keeps you from doing it. Is it because people you think are leftist are just mean and evil or is it something else.

You're wearing the word hypocrisy out. The constitution has been amended 27 times, seems very doable

I here maga people say all the time that the left is trying to change the constitution. If that is what you are saying well more hypocrisy.

Then you must be against war or there would be more hypocrisy.

Depends on where you stand. The aggressors are in the wrong unless there are odd circumstances. Those defending their homeland or people have every right to kill those that wish to do harm. You have wore the word hypocrisy out, it doesn't mean anything anymore

I here maga people say all the time that the left is trying to change the constitution. If that is what you are saying well more hypocrisy.

This is fake news. You don't converse with many MAGA people. You are above those peasants

You see everything from a political lens and that is what gets us all in trouble with strong and uncompromising opinions. That lens filters out our common sense. Remove the lens and let’s go back to civil conversations that allow is to listen and learn things or maybe even help to see other perspectives. I think you want to do that but something keeps you from doing it. Is it because people you think are leftist are just mean and evil or is it something else.

I'm trying to see your side of the coin. To me abortion is 100% a moral issue but I don't think that approach will get anywhere with you. My take on it is this, I hold myself in high moral regard so I am personally against killing the unborn but I do not care if other people get abortions because their standard is up to them. So where are you on abortion? either morally, personally, or politically?

This is fake news. You don't converse with many MAGA people. You are above those peasants

Well most of my friends and family are maga people and I love them very much. They are good and decent people. They are better than me in many ways. I talk to them and customers almost every day. Is that what you are calling fake? Having these conversations are very hard but it gives me hope that common sense will prevail.

I'm trying to see your side of the coin. To me abortion is 100% a moral issue but I don't think that approach will get anywhere with you. My take on it is this, I hold myself in high moral regard so I am personally against killing the unborn but I do not care if other people get abortions because their standard is up to them. So where are you on abortion? either morally, personally, or politically?

Women have that right to decide because it is her life that gives life. I really don’t see where any male gets to decide when life begins in the womb. Life begins when she says it begins.

Depends on where you stand. The aggressors are in the wrong unless there are odd circumstances. Those defending their homeland or people have every right to kill those that wish to do harm. You have wore the word hypocrisy out, it doesn't mean anything anymore

“Every right to kill” is hypocrisy.

Well most of my friends and family are maga people and I love them very much. They are good and decent people. They are better than me in many ways. I talk to them and customers almost every day. Is that what you are calling fake? Having these conversations are very hard but it gives me hope that common sense will prevail.

I am messing with you, if you know MAGA people sarcasm is how we hug. Sarcasm is my first language

Women have that right to decide because it is her life that gives life. I really don’t see where any male gets to decide when life begins in the womb. Life begins when she says it begins.

Thats one way of looking at it. Do you have kids?

“Every right to kill” is hypocrisy.

Mputnal
To go to the latest war, do you think the people of the Ukraine have the right to kill the Russians that are threating the Ukrainians people and land?

Lets hit closer to home, if someone is breaking into your home. Would you put them down?

Absolutely no hypocrisy at all

I'll go first, if someone attempts, try's, wants to, or is the process of hurting anyone I care about I would put them down and would never blink an eye. If I saw someone hurting you or anyone else I would intervein and then decide how to move forward. I might help them if they aren't hurting you too bad (that was sarcasm (I think))

“Every right to kill” is hypocrisy.

I'm starting to think you don't know what hypocrisy means

LVT
I can assure you that I have a full and complete gasp of the law on this matter. President can declassify info while in office and they have every right to take home any and all declassified info as it was their work. Now as someone here noted (I can't remember who) that info can be reclassified and therefore should not be in the hands of citizens (the ex president in this case). I have already stated my personal opinion that I think it was foolish of Trump to be in possession of these items. Trump will not be prosecuted for this, the raid was merely a political dog and pony show. I don't really care either way about how the DOJ conducted themselves but to say this was done by the book is laughable.

Growing up in the Northeast it is amazing how small of a community it actually is, you grow up with friends that eventually go on to work for the White House legal counsel and sometimes you talk to them about issues like these. Its cool to see hear their take on how this stuff plays out

Don’t you think that not prosecuting Trump, at this point, would be the more political move? After all, they have documented proof he did the crimes. Not prosecuting now would be showing favoritism. We want law-breakers to be held accountable, don’t we?

Mputnal
To go to the latest war, do you think the people of the Ukraine have the right to kill the Russians that are threating the Ukrainians people and land?

Lets hit closer to home, if someone is breaking into your home. Would you put them down?

Absolutely no hypocrisy at all

I'll go first, if someone attempts, try's, wants to, or is the process of hurting anyone I care about I would put them down and would never blink an eye. If I saw someone hurting you or anyone else I would intervein and then decide how to move forward. I might help them if they aren't hurting you too bad (that was sarcasm (I think))

Yes we have a right to defend ourselves but you have concluded that you can decide who is innocent and who is not and who can kill and who can not. If you see me fighting with someone how do you know who is innocent?

I'm starting to think you don't know what hypocrisy means

I am starting to think you don't either

Thats one way of looking at it. Do you have kids?

The answer is yes but has absolutely no relevance to this discussion.

I am messing with you, if you know MAGA people sarcasm is how we hug. Sarcasm is my first language

I have a cousin Ricky that sounds just like you

Bob
I see your all knotted up at 3 in the AM
I'll try to break down your comment

If you want the definition of pork then look it up, if you want my short version opinion it is the extra considerations that politicians throw in bills to buy their vote.

I have not thought this through 100% but a flat tax would be a fair tax. The flat tax would strictly handle income, income on investments would only be taxed on the gains with some kind of consideration of the length of the holding. I have not thought it all the way through as pertains to moneys made overseas as that would be much more complicated.

Yes when I say flat tax there would be no deductions, there would have to be considerations for charitable contributions and the like.

I always try to answer as many questions as I can

The 10th amendment is quite clear on what gets handled at each level. Yes abortion is a state issue

If Regan was holding federal funds then it was a federal issue and he would have the right to do so, if someone were holding state funds it would be a state issue and should be handled at the state level.

To your last point, I agree some people thought slavery was a state issue. I believe this was the reason the south fought to secede from the Union. Personally I am glad that slavery ended. I'm not really sure what you are asking me here.

Bob
Feel free to set a trap for me if you wish. I think you can see that if I don't know something or if I don't have an opinion I will tell you. I can only give my opinion on items put in front of me. I am here to try to figure out what makes people on the left think the way they do, for this knowledge I will answer anything asked of me so that you guys can do the same. I have no hidden agenda and clearly I am not going to change anyones point of view. I do not like the personal attacks of which I have also taken part in. My main fear is 'what if I'm wrong' in how I look at things. If I am then I need to change how I view and process info.

I don't think I was setting a trap, I felt I was asking legitimate questions. I play "gotcha" all the time when I see what I believe to be hypocrisy, this wasn't one of those times.