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Lets play devils advocate
Lets say the 50k people there wanted to overthrow the government
How would it happed?
Give me even the farthest reach you can think of for that to happen

Then you are going to try to tell me that this is what the people thought they could do like you know what these people thought

Lets hear it because this is the question that never gets asked nor will ever be answered, your side just likes to keep you emotional

To your first line, no, who ever said that? Never said the second line either. Third line doesn't meet your 'common sense' standard. Forth line is stupid. Fifth line is up to you, I'm in. Always remember, I give what I get, I never swing first thats your sides tactic, I'm always civil till pushed

I think you should go back and read what you are posting. Then listen to your words. Then answer your own questions. Then decide what stupid is

“Your honor my client did no wrong because even though his actions caused many to lose their lives that day there was no way possible he was going to rob Fort Knox. He was just too stupid to know that. Defense rests.”

Try again
How many people were killed?
Seriously how many?

1 protestor

The left wants Jan 6th to be more then it actually was. Being from that area I know a ton of people that were at the capital on Jan 6th, not one of them saw anything more then some pushing with police to get through make shift barriers, they went into a building that we all own so their presence could be felt by those that they feel weren't listening. Some idiots got out of control but that is always the case where there are a lot of people and emotions were running high, just like people on your side. The left cannot highlight its policies or accomplishments so they have to keep the coals on this stoked to drum up fear from likeminded people. The horse is dead, there was no avenue at all to overturn an election or overturn the government, you sound stupid, stop speaking when you know what you are saying isn't true.

Really. You do not see that trump was trying to create a path to overturn an election. He inspires you and your friends to become angry enough to do his dirty work. Come on man...

You guys just don't get it. Trump is just a man, of the dozens of my buddies I share political ideology with not one of us even really like Trump the man. We like what he represents, which is an outsider. There is not a politician alive, that I have ever met or followed, that doesn't act in their best interest. Just look at what it takes to become a politician, they have to become dirty out of the chute. You guys think Trump is the cherry on top of our ice cream, you could not be more wrong, at all. F*ck

Yes trump is just a man. I think we can agree that he is not a good man. I think we can agree that he is an outsider rich man. I think we can agree that we need to reform term limits for politicians. I think we can agree on immigration. I think we can agree that we need to reform the tax structure. We can agree on a lot but for the stupid sh.t. I am not on the left or right so try and find another word if you think you know me and my politics.

So you literally believe that Biden's job is to lock up people who hire illegal immigrants. You have even said that the illegal migrants come here to get jobs to have a better quality of life so we should not blame them. That only leaves people like you to blame and Biden should "lock you up". At some point I hope you break away from this nonsense or cult like following of ego driven power mongers. If that happens I am sure we can have decent and productive conversations.

Once again, line by line, 1) I have never said biden should lock up employers who hire illegals, the government loves people who hire illegals because it generated free money for the government

2) I never said we shouldn't blame the illegals, they have broken our laws. I did say they come here for a better life

3) I am way downstream and very disconnected from the governments choice not to enforce our laws. To blame employers who hire people that want to work is silly

4) This is your opinion based on your point of view, I can promise you I don't follow anyone. I walk my own path every single day. I do not live or think like you guys. My ideology and morals aligns more with the right then the left.

5) I always want to have meaningful conversations but the people on your side (not saying you specifically) just want to throw insults and get personal. I miss the old days when if someone had something stupid to say you would figure it out but those days are behind most of you, I'm a little different.

Really. You do not see that trump was trying to create a path to overturn an election. He inspires you and your friends to become angry enough to do his dirty work. Come on man...

Enough BS, name me 1 even remote path that could have been used to overturn the election. Just one and I don't care if it involves a yeti riding a unicorn. This theory the left constantly preaches doesn't make sense.

Well we are all human so I look at that as something in common. You keep trying to put me in some category of people who you are bound and determined to disagree with and hate. I think that is not a good way to have a meaningful conversation. I have learned in my old age that when people try to insult me they are really insulting themselves and that is totally within your control to react or ignore.

Enough BS, name me 1 even remote path that could have been used to overturn the election. Just one and I don't care if it involves a yeti riding a unicorn. This theory the left constantly preaches doesn't make sense.

The Vice President for one.

Yes trump is just a man. I think we can agree that he is not a good man. I think we can agree that he is an outsider rich man. I think we can agree that we need to reform term limits for politicians. I think we can agree on immigration. I think we can agree that we need to reform the tax structure. We can agree on a lot but for the stupid sh.t. I am not on the left or right so try and find another word if you think you know me and my politics.

Mputnal
When I say you I do not mean Mputnal. I have no idea who any of you guys are. When I say left I mean people that think from a place on the far left. I have no problem with the majority on either side from the middle because they are still open to conversation and thought.

I agree with points number:
1 2 4 5 6

3 I don't think Trump is nearly as rich as he portrays

There will always be extremes in ideologies. I am not one of those people but you are making a good case for being one of those people. I do not think you are but you need to read and listen to what you are posting. Ignore the stuff that causes you to react negatively. Trust me I have learned that is peace

Well we are all human so I look at that as something in common. You keep trying to put me in some category of people who you are bound and determined to disagree with and hate. I think that is not a good way to have a meaningful conversation. I have learned in my old age that when people try to insult me they are really insulting themselves and that is totally within your control to react or ignore.

First I do not hate anyone, we have a cat that bites me everyday, I don't hate the cat she is like that because of how some man treated her when she was young (she doesn't bite the women in the house). I don't like they way some of you guys view stuff but hate is a cancer that I won't let in. I have hated in my life and no good comes from it. I pretty much agree with the rest of what you stated. Once again I do not mean to lump you in where you shouldn't be

The Vice President for one.

How? Do you HONESTLY think Pence could have overturned the election, HONESTLY. Not what you have been told that Trump people think, you yourself, do you think Pence could have said 'Nope Trump wins'

Yes I have also learned the hard way about hatred. I think it can lead to evil and that my friend is something we do have to fight.

How? Do you HONESTLY think Pence could have overturned the election, HONESTLY. Not what you have been told that Trump people think, you yourself, do you think Pence could have said 'Nope Trump wins'

Yes I believe it was an important step for trump to force Pence to not certify the election results.

The left wants Jan 6th to be more then it actually was. Being from that area I know a ton of people that were at the capital on Jan 6th, not one of them saw anything more then some pushing with police to get through make shift barriers, they went into a building that we all own so their presence could be felt by those that they feel weren't listening. Some idiots got out of control but that is always the case where there are a lot of people and emotions were running high, just like people on your side. The left cannot highlight its policies or accomplishments so they have to keep the coals on this stoked to drum up fear from likeminded people. The horse is dead, there was no avenue at all to overturn an election or overturn the government, you sound stupid, stop speaking when you know what you are saying isn't true.

Republicans sure thought they could. Explain away the fake electors.

Enough BS, name me 1 even remote path that could have been used to overturn the election. Just one and I don't care if it involves a yeti riding a unicorn. This theory the left constantly preaches doesn't make sense.

I’ll name THE path.

The riot was a distraction to allow trump to declare martial law. Pence was going to be removed and replaced by Grassley to oversee the certification which was going to be sent back to the states for the fake electors to decide.

Chuck Grassley Tue Jan 5:

Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said he would preside over the U.S. Senate debate surrounding disputes of the 2020 election results if Vice President Mike Pence does not show up.

“Well, first of all, I will be — if the Vice President isn’t there and we don’t expect him to be there, I will be presiding over the Senate.”

Grassley told reporters on Tuesday that any challenges to the election results are a “legitimate” move that Republicans are allowed to conduct.

“First of all, it’s a legal process under the law and under the Constitution, for these folks to do what they’re doing.”

SS directed Pence to get in a car after the breach and he refused believing he would be removed from the Capitol and not be able to fulfill his duties to certify the election.

Once sent back to the states the fake electors would falsely declare trump the winner in their respective state.


Again, the rioters were dumbass rubes being used and now going to prison for their stupidity.

Bring it on mofo. With you we’ve already seen problems the likes of which we have never seen before.
It’s time to call your bluff and put this sad chapter in our history to rest.

"I think, if it happened, you'd have problems in this country the likes of which, perhaps, you have ever seen before. I don't think the people of the United States would stand for it."

trump - today

Yes I have also learned the hard way about hatred. I think it can lead to evil and that my friend is something we do have to fight.

Agreed

Republicans sure thought they could. Explain away the fake electors.

I’ll name THE path.

The riot was a distraction to allow trump to declare martial law. Pence was going to be removed and replaced by Grassley to oversee the certification which was going to be sent back to the states for the fake electors to decide.

Chuck Grassley Tue Jan 5:

Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said he would preside over the U.S. Senate debate surrounding disputes of the 2020 election results if Vice President Mike Pence does not show up.

“Well, first of all, I will be — if the Vice President isn’t there and we don’t expect him to be there, I will be presiding over the Senate.”

Grassley told reporters on Tuesday that any challenges to the election results are a “legitimate” move that Republicans are allowed to conduct.

“First of all, it’s a legal process under the law and under the Constitution, for these folks to do what they’re doing.”

SS directed Pence to get in a car after the breach and he refused believing he would be removed from the Capitol and not be able to fulfill his duties to certify the election.

Once sent back to the states the fake electors would falsely declare trump the winner in their respective state.

Comprehensive Timeline on False Electors Scheme in 2020 Presidential Election

The most comprehensive factual record of former President Donald Trump and his close associates coordination of the false electors scheme.

www.justsecurity.org

Again, the rioters were dumbass rubes being used and now going to prison for their stupidity.

Do you believe what you wrote? I mean Honestly believe. I know this is the kind of stuff you want to believe that people in the other party believed because of your feelings for Trump and his followers but you know that there is no legal way or path for the election to have been overturned or the government taken over through this process, correct? You know you saying what repubs thought on or before Jan 6th is beyond silly right? That would be like me telling you what people on the left think, thats coo coo talk

Following your logic. Where’s the crime?

I said there's pee in the pool not that a crime was committed. I will find out more when we have our briefing this afternoon as I am an integral part of the investigation. Why would the FBI pay this guy after they learned what he did? Maybe to go after someone else? Not sure, hopefully time will tell

Of course he’s from Florida

Pro-Trump Pundit Accused of Pocketing $200K Meant for Ukraine Body Armor​

Pundit Accused of Taking $200K Meant for Ukraine Body Armor

In a lawsuit filed in Florida, conservative pundit John Cardillo is accused of making off with nearly $200,000 meant to purchase body armor for Ukrainian police officers.

www.thedailybeast.com

This is politics to the extreme, now when someone commits a completely unrelated crime the media is going to tell you who they voted for? This is silly

Bring it on mofo. With you we’ve already seen problems the likes of which we have never seen before.
It’s time to call your bluff and put this sad chapter in our history to rest.

"I think, if it happened, you'd have problems in this country the likes of which, perhaps, you have ever seen before. I don't think the people of the United States would stand for it."

trump - today

Poppa
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Do you believe what you wrote? I mean Honestly believe. I know this is the kind of stuff you want to believe that people in the other party believed because of your feelings for Trump and his followers but you know that there is no legal way or path for the election to have been overturned or the government taken over through this process, correct? You know you saying what repubs thought on or before Jan 6th is beyond silly right? That would be like me telling you what people on the left think, thats coo coo talk

Wallow in your ignorance.

Poppa
Shoot a link
Trying to see the context for the comment
Thx

Na don’t think so. Not interested in your opinion on this one.