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PoppaJ avatar
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#12202
If you have a problem with a president blackmailing a foreign leader then your issue is with biden, as he himself admitted it.
What president took Russia side over the US?
Who foments violence? How do they do this?
Who encourages an insurrection?
Who stole top secrets?

The last comment is just silly talk
Anyone who asks these questions is either stupid or needs a new source of information.
I’ll go with stupid.
Beach Fanatic
#12203
Excuse me, sir, but you are again not making a lot of sense. The documents that ended up at Maro Lago were taken after drumpf was no longer president*. Do you want to keep this silly dialogue going forever? Again, the United States Government has no problem with him de-classing them. The United States Government would like him to him to do it through an orderly documented process, not the 'voodoo de-class" method. The United States Government does call it a crime when he removes those documents from the possession of the United States Government, according to the Presidential Records Act of 1978. The DOJ, legally, and responsibly, obtained a search warrant and searched the premises of a night club owned by Donald Drumpf. And yet you keep harping on this "political stunt" (you really have to get new material - cold, frozen, soup) As you alluded to before, possibly 99% of the country now considers him guilty of something, whether it be violating the Presidential Records Act of 1978 or possibly espionage. But, I admire the fact that you keep defending him to the very end. I know he would do the same for you if the roles were reversed. Unfortunately, you are starting to smell like Ted Cruz. Sad.
I can explain the law to you but I cannot understand it for you
Your stance is the one thats moving
The Mar Lago raid was 100% a political stunt.
The truth never gets old, no need for any kind if different 'material'
I said 'even if' 99% of the people say whatever that doesn't make it the law
I phrase 'clam chowder' is an old SNL skit, you guys should be old enough to remember, there is no frozen cold soup
I am not defending Trump, I am saying lets follow the law, if this concept is beyond you I understand
I don't know what 'starting to smell like Cruz means' seems a little gay
Happy pappy
Beach Fanatic
#12204
Just a reminder to everybody who may be getting confused, the Presidential Records Act pertains to all presidential documents, whether classified, declassified, or voodoo de-class. Private citizen Donald Drumpf is guilty of Theft and Obstruction, provable by signed documents. The questions about de-classification would mainly be important in the sentencing phase which would take into account the severity of the damage that resulted from the Theft, and matters of Espionage. This is my opinion.

If anybody wants to mention de-classification again, it will be considered a red-herring and be put in a basket along with "political stunt", "televised pre-dawn raid with guns visible", "Hunter's Laptop", "Benghazi", and Ted Cruz, just because he stinks.
I didn't know they even went to court yet alone passed down a sentence of guilt but don't let any facts get in the way of your emotion. At least you admit this is your opinion

The second paragraph is an emotional response. Sometimes you have to let children just 'cry it out'. FYI any president can declassify anything they want.
Beach Fanatic
#12205
:yawn:
I'll bet you've seen that face before as well
Beach Fanatic
#12206
That was a pretty good display of the back peddle bullshit two step.
If you say so, now stock the shelves
Beach Fanatic
#12207
Anyone who asks these questions is either stupid or needs a new source of information.
I’ll go with stupid.
What are you lying about now?
Beach Fanatic
#12208
Yes Biden is weak, no one is afraid of him which is not good in a leader
Trump was strong is many ways weak in many others
Biden doesn't face a fraction of the vitriol and push back that Trump did, the left was trying to impeach him before he even took office
I'm a a very honest man
I am a strong man
To say I'm weak minded when you don't even know me says more about you then me
I never bully anyone unless they swing first, ever, I learned a long time ago to bully bullies, a lot of our current issues is the lack of consequence, you're old enough to remember when you said something stupid you got dealt with, moving away from this has made us weaker as a whole
I listen to everything and everybody, then I process the info and decide what to do with it
The learning thing is your wrongful assumption
Biden is hurting all of us, if you have kids or grandkids that you care about how can you be OK with saddling them with the crushing debt hes adding?
I don't know who Crist is
I never said the left is trying to hurt anyone, their ideology is what will hurt all of us
I always keep it civil until someone else goes personal then I go all the way personal
Then again with the insults that say more about you and your views then anything else
The rest of your comment is coo coo talk in the attempt to bring it to some kind of a witty last jab kinda ending
I do not believe you are able to be honest with yourself. You can't even listen to your own words. Biden beat trump. Biden had vitriol to pass helpful legislation. Biden is weak. Trump is strong. Poor trump. No you are not an honest person with words. In real life you may be the most honest person in the history of mankind :) You bully bullies. Wow. You really believe you are a super hero. Crushing debt. Do you know who the last President was that actually balanced the budget? HINT Not a republican. You must be lost in a sea of hatred to not see the hypocrisy and the willingness to follow leaders who are bad for this country. If you do not know who Crist is that is understandable and makes sense to me. You are close minded and not willing to listen or learn or at all comfortable outside your little box. This back and forth BS is coo coo talk and I prefer to be more productive so live your life and I will do the same...
Beach Fanatic
#12209
Lou prefers thugs and crooks and dictators for his leaders. They make him feel safe :)
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Beach Lover
#12210
I don't know who Crist is
Well this confirms why I haven’t set foot in the back and forth here. Ya just can’t argue with willful stupidity.
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SoWal Insider
#12212
I didn't know they even went to court yet alone passed down a sentence of guilt but don't let any facts get in the way of your emotion. At least you admit this is your opinion

The second paragraph is an emotional response. Sometimes you have to let children just 'cry it out'. FYI any president can declassify anything they want.
Yes, the case is "in the courts". By this, the matter, as to the former's ownership of any of the documents is in the hands of the judge who has been picked, by Donald Trump, to be special master to determine if any of the documents retrieved could conceivably be owned by Donald Trump. That judge has requested that Trump produce just cause that he legally has ownership of any or all of the docs. He is starting to run out of time to decide what his "just cause" is. If he doesn't present his case to that point, then all the docs are considered Government Property, and he is then in violation of the Presidential Records Act. None of this part of the investigation has anything to do with "declassified". You continue to throw out that red herring because you got nothing. I repeat: whether the docs were classified or not is irrelevant to the Theft of the documents. My opinion of your "voodoo de-class" theory is that it smells like desperation. Your guy is panicking., but it's all in good fun.
Beach Fanatic
#12213
I do not believe you are able to be honest with yourself. You can't even listen to your own words. Biden beat trump. Biden had vitriol to pass helpful legislation. Biden is weak. Trump is strong. Poor trump. No you are not an honest person with words. In real life you may be the most honest person in the history of mankind :) You bully bullies. Wow. You really believe you are a super hero. Crushing debt. Do you know who the last President was that actually balanced the budget? HINT Not a republican. You must be lost in a sea of hatred to not see the hypocrisy and the willingness to follow leaders who are bad for this country. If you do not know who Crist is that is understandable and makes sense to me. You are close minded and not willing to listen or learn or at all comfortable outside your little box. This back and forth BS is coo coo talk and I prefer to be more productive so live your life and I will do the same...
Again with so many words yet nothing gets said. My opinion is that your opinion is irrelevant. Hit the showers
Beach Fanatic
#12214
Well this confirms why I haven’t set foot in the back and forth here. Ya just can’t argue with willful stupidity.
Sweety, don't get too bunched up, of coarse I know who Crist is but its more fun to watch these guys get fired up, I like to play Pavlov while these guys act the dogs
Beach Fanatic
#12215
Lou prefers thugs and crooks and dictators for his leaders. They make him feel safe :)
More words from the guy that wants to move on, you can't help yourself can you little guy
Beach Fanatic
#12216
Yes, the case is "in the courts". By this, the matter, as to the former's ownership of any of the documents is in the hands of the judge who has been picked, by Donald Trump, to be special master to determine if any of the documents retrieved could conceivably be owned by Donald Trump. That judge has requested that Trump produce just cause that he legally has ownership of any or all of the docs. He is starting to run out of time to decide what his "just cause" is. If he doesn't present his case to that point, then all the docs are considered Government Property, and he is then in violation of the Presidential Records Act. None of this part of the investigation has anything to do with "declassified". You continue to throw out that red herring because you got nothing. I repeat: whether the docs were classified or not is irrelevant to the Theft of the documents. My opinion of your "voodoo de-class" theory is that it smells like desperation. Your guy is panicking., but it's all in good fun.
I've noticed how you like to hang on to certain words and phrases in an odd manner. You may need to carve out some time to address this. Just my opinion.

Of coarse it matters if the documents he had were classified or declassified but I don't want to let anything get in your way.
Beach Fanatic
#12217
Again with so many words yet nothing gets said. My opinion is that your opinion is irrelevant. Hit the showers
Your words are irrelevant...to yourself :)
Beach Fanatic
#12218
More words from the guy that wants to move on, you can't help yourself can you little guy
Yes this is all pretty childish in my opinion. No entertainment value for me or desire to be a super hero so no excuses.
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SoWal Insider
#12219
I've noticed how you like to hang on to certain words and phrases in an odd manner. You may need to carve out some time to address this. Just my opinion.

Of coarse it matters if the documents he had were classified or declassified but I don't want to let anything get in your way.
I’m really just trying to see how many times you are going say declassified. What is your theory about why he hasn’t proposed that defense to the special master yet?
Beach Fanatic
#12220
Your words are irrelevant...to yourself :)
Good one, that makes sense
Beach Fanatic
#12221
Yes this is all pretty childish in my opinion. No entertainment value for me or desire to be a super hero so no excuses.
Yet here you still are, words words words words
Beach Fanatic
#12222
I’m really just trying to see how many times you are going say declassified. What is your theory about why he hasn’t proposed that defense to the special master yet?
I'll help you out, as many as it takes.
I don't know, I'll ask him when we have our next meeting
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#12223
I'll help you out, as many as it takes.
I don't know, I'll ask him when we have our next meeting
So much misunderstanding... I want to know Your opinion. I want to understand what Your thinking is in terms of the defense of poor Donny. I know you must have a couple more red herrings to throw out. "Voodoo de-class" and "political stunt" can't be all ya got. Think 'til it stinks, good buddy.
Beach Fanatic
#12224
So much misunderstanding... I want to know Your opinion. I want to understand what Your thinking is in terms of the defense of poor Donny. I know you must have a couple more red herrings to throw out. "Voodoo de-class" and "political stunt" can't be all ya got. Think 'til it stinks, good buddy.
My opinion is the same as its always been
Trump should not have had these documents
If he broke a law or rule he should be held to account

If I were Trump and I found out I had documents that I wasn't suppose to have I would have gone full co-op and just said / emailed to whomever 'you have my full cooperation, I have cc'd my lawyer and someone to let you into me place for you convience, lets set up a meeting for your people to come over and go through whatever you would like whenever is good for you, I am sorry if I did something wrong, lets make this right, what kind of lunch / drinks can we have ready for your people, once again I apologize for the inconvenience.'

If possible please stop with the sillyness in your posts, I have been very clear in my posts. I think the raid was a pollical stunt you do not, lets put that sword down neither is going to bend. You keep saying voodoo de class, I simply stated he had the right while president, I have been very clear that I do not know the process of declassifying stuff or if he did it, so maybe lets put that sword down.

If there is ever any of my positions you want to know, just ask, clearly I will reply. You may not like the reply but I will shoot straight.

Or we can keep being silly, the choice is yours
Beach Fanatic
#12225
You finally found a mirror :)
Beach Fanatic
#12226
You finally found a mirror :)
You're doing great, keep going and going and going and going and going ..............

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