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Beach Fanatic
#12527
If we could just focus on protecting our children please!!! Imagine a world where we care more about the safety of our children than being right.
Beach Fanatic
#12528
If we continue to live in a world of democrats and republicans fighting each other with anger we will not need that large portion of our brains where reason seeks truth. Politics is 90 percent emotion and 10 percent reason. Politics is onesiderism. Politics causes brain damage! Stop it!
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#12529
Democrats that can’t get off their…high horse long enough to figure out that that moral high ground also causes blindness is a problem. Looks like two peas in a pod to me.
Name me one Democratic gun control proposal that you think is unreasonable. Do you think being opposed to "concealed carry without a permit" is too high moral ground?
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SoWal Insider
#12530
Looks like republicans are now the party in favor of defunding law enforcement.
Beach Fanatic
#12531
Name me one Democratic gun control proposal that you think is unreasonable. Do you think being opposed to "concealed carry without a permit" is too high moral ground?
Just stop with the politics and focus on the children please is what we all should be saying to each other. Not who has the moral high ground. I agree with you but I am tired of not doing anything. The only way to remove a stump is with a shovel. Most Democrats have probably never dug out a stump with a shovel. I have many times so the work of dealing with a stump does not bother me as much as you probably.
Beach Fanatic
#12532
Looks like republicans are now the party in favor of defunding law enforcement.
Poppaj you know I should be debating your methods more but you are too clever for me :)
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#12533
I've never dug a stump, but then, I was shown how to pull it with a truck or backhoe.
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SoWal Insider
#12534
Just stop with the politics and focus on the children please is what we all should be saying to each other. Not who has the moral high ground. I agree with you but I am tired of not doing anything. The only way to remove a stump is with a shovel. Most Democrats have probably never dug out a stump with a shovel. I have many times so the work of dealing with a stump does not bother me as much as you probably.
Before you get all huffy on me, I am merely pointing out that the Democrats are proposing gun control legislation and have been doing so for decades. The Republicans have been opposed to ANY gun control for more decades than that. You call this politics. I call this reality. I also call this insanity.

Here’s the reality: Even if the Republicans did give in on some common sense gun control, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference. The problem is the entire gun culture that has run rampant in this country. Christmas cards with AK-47’s, really?!
What passing even some small common sense gun control laws would do would be to say that the US government does not condone senseless gun idolization. It would be one small, symbolic gesture just saying stop the senseless insanity. But one party doesn’t want to stop the sale of insanity.
Beach Fanatic
#12535
That has become my point. The gun culture is not going anywhere. Therefore we have to build barriers around our schools which have to be paid for. Increase the taxes on gun sales to pay for it. We have to
Make schools safe! Arguing with a stump is not working. So time to grab a shovel. Everyone should know how to use a shovel :).

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Beach Fanatic
#12536
I've never dug a stump, but then, I was shown how to pull it with a truck or backhoe.
I figured as much! You need to learn how to use a shovel. At least in a political sense. I have 3 children and I raised them all to know the value of hard work. You are too dependent on everyone agreeing with you. Grab a shovel every once in while. It may help you be more open minded. Once the soreness goes away :)

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SoWal Insider
#12537
That has become my point. The gun culture is not going anywhere. Therefore we have to build barriers around our schools which have to be paid for. Increase the taxes on gun sales to pay for it. We have to
Make schools safe! Arguing with a stump is not working. So time to grab a shovel. Everyone should know how to use a shovel :).
Enough with the stump analogy. (You know there are chemicals you can pour on a stump to accelerate its decay.) If you think fortifying every school in America is the answer to school shootings, then insanity has just won the day. No other countries in the world have this gun culture. None. I know it would be a very long, long process, but the Federal Government could pass some gradual gun control measures that simply reduce the availability of assault weapons, just to signal to the citizenry that weapons of war are not acceptable. It may be a somewhat poor analogy (but probably better than digging a stump) but America has shown that public awareness campaigns have worked on, at least, two major public health issues, smoking tobacco and seat belts, to reduce senseless deaths. Just something to think about while you are getting blisters digging on that stump. I'll get the truck keys.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#12538
Enough with the stump analogy. (You know there are chemicals you can pour on a stump to accelerate its decay.) If you think fortifying every school in America is the answer to school shootings, then insanity has just won the day. No other countries in the world have this gun culture. None. I know it would be a very long, long process, but the Federal Government could pass some gradual gun control measures that simply reduce the availability of assault weapons, just to signal to the citizenry that weapons of war are not acceptable. It may be a somewhat poor analogy (but probably better than digging a stump) but America has shown that public awareness campaigns have worked on, at least, two major public health issues, smoking tobacco and seat belts, to reduce senseless deaths. Just something to think about while you are getting blisters digging on that stump. I'll get the truck keys.
An idea that has been put forth before is to require liability insurance for all guns.
Republicans sure don’t mind insurance making homes unaffordable. Just ask DeSantis.
My wife and I saw it coming which is one of the many reasons we sold and moved to a condo.
I may have posted before but our flood zone X home went from around $4000.00 +/-annually to $8400.00 plus $799.00 for flood insurance.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#12539
An idea that has been put forth before is to require liability insurance for all guns.
Republicans sure don’t mind insurance making homes unaffordable. Just ask DeSantis.
My wife and I saw it coming which is one of the many reasons we sold and moved to a condo.
I may have posted before but our flood zone X home went from around $4000.00 +/-annually to $8400.00 plus $799.00 for flood insurance.

The recent listings of various properties makes me wonder if the great exodus is about to take place.

Love that the solution to our insurance problem was to MANDATE the purchase of more insurance. Remember when Republicans were going to die on the cross rather than be forced to buy health insurance?
Beach Fanatic
#12541
Enough with the stump analogy. (You know there are chemicals you can pour on a stump to accelerate its decay.) If you think fortifying every school in America is the answer to school shootings, then insanity has just won the day. No other countries in the world have this gun culture. None. I know it would be a very long, long process, but the Federal Government could pass some gradual gun control measures that simply reduce the availability of assault weapons, just to signal to the citizenry that weapons of war are not acceptable. It may be a somewhat poor analogy (but probably better than digging a stump) but America has shown that public awareness campaigns have worked on, at least, two major public health issues, smoking tobacco and seat belts, to reduce senseless deaths. Just something to think about while you are getting blisters digging on that stump. I'll get the truck keys.
I would say the insanity of onesiderism has won the day and our children lose. You do not like to work hard I get it. You just want to blame others for not doing what you want them to do. Ridiculous nonsense to me. By the way pouring chemicals on a stump is something Donald Trump would do :)

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Beach Fanatic
#12543
Only the white lady survived. Mputnal will now tell us all about how Democrats used to be racist.

Democrats, republicans, independents and all humans are racist, prejudiced, biased, judgemental, sexist etc. etc. Your onesidedism has blinded you to anything outside a little box. I know you don't like hearing it but it is the truth.
Beach Fanatic
#12544
The recent listings of various properties makes me wonder if the great exodus is about to take place.

Love that the solution to our insurance problem was to MANDATE the purchase of more insurance. Remember when Republicans were going to die on the cross rather than be forced to buy health insurance?
As long as both republicans and democrats are stumps nothing will happen that is good for anyone...
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SoWal Insider
#12545
As long as both republicans and democrats are stumps nothing will happen that is good for anyone...
Speaking of stumps, did I stump you when I asked you to cite which Democratic proposals for gun control you thought were unreasonable? Did I stump you when I asked you why the Republicans are against ANY gun control? If you haven't noticed, rhetoric about digging stumps is rhetoric. Actively calling out people to condemn the party that is actively promoting pro gun adulation is a step, or shovel full, in the right direction.
Beach Fanatic
#12546
Speaking of stumps, did I stump you when I asked you to cite which Democratic proposals for gun control you thought were unreasonable? Did I stump you when I asked you why the Republicans are against ANY gun control? If you haven't noticed, rhetoric about digging stumps is rhetoric. Actively calling out people to condemn the party that is actively promoting pro gun adulation is a step, or shovel full, in the right direction.
I think we both know who to vote for when it comes to elections. Digging stumps is hard work. Democracy is hard work. Lets get to work and do something...
Beach Fanatic
#12547
Matt do you really believe you are superior in morality and superior in you awareness and management of prejudice to all groups of people including republicans? If the answer is yes then I would presume that you and Donald Trump are a lot alike :) The problems I have with the Republican Party is too long to list because I am busy digging stumps. The problems I have with the Democratic Party is a shorter list but one is that they are have become complacent and lazy. That stems from the fact that most seem to feel superior to a "republican", a "christian" and certainly a "trump supporter". Look up the definition of Prejudice. You will never have enough information to classify yourself as less prejudice as someone else unless you grab a shovel and start digging around that stump. You need to know the full history of another person not just who they support in politics. Your assumptions may be right but they may be wrong until you do the work. So what does that mean do the work? It means engage in conversation and debate. It means that you have to listen and not react. It means that you will have to control your emotions. Believe me I am not that good at it either but I am trying to learn. You and many others do not want to do the hard work. Why?
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#12548
I love being lectured by a boomer.

Boomer - someone completely unaware of their advantage and privilege who then blindly applies their life experiences to younger people in horribly judgmental ways.
Beach Fanatic
#12549
I love being lectured by a boomer.

Boomer - someone completely unaware of their advantage and privilege who then blindly applies their life experiences to younger people in horribly judgmental ways.
So you are prejudiced against boomers right? Not only are you prejudiced but you go even further and become belligerent, accusatory and judgemental and you do these things without adequate information. It is the same thing that trump supporter do against liberals. You are really no different in my opinion and no need to answer why. I talk to trump supporters a lot and I realize why they have anger toward people like yourself. I am so glad that me boomer tried to teach my children to be open minded, paid for my education and my 3 children's college education and know how to use a shovel! You my friend make me proud to be a boomer :)
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Beach Fanatic
#12550
I am prejudice against fascist. I am prejudice against communist. I am prejudice against those who say they are against being woke but are really no different than those who they complain about. Just for starters
Beach Fanatic
#12551
I am prejudice against fascist. I am prejudice against communist. I am prejudice against those who say they are against being woke but are really no different than those who they complain about. Just for starters
I agree. In addition I am developing a prejudice for those that say they are woke but are really no different than those they complain about :)

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