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I don’t have that answer so I’ll go with what medical science believes is the earliest they are able to survive outside the womb.
When do you believe life begins?
Another question when did republicans and Christians become all consumed with abortion?

You either don't read or comprehend well
I already answered all you questions above
Science knows life begins at conception anything else is a political jargon to push an agenda
Christian have had the same stance since the beginning I have no idea as far as republicans
Personally I don't care if somebody murders their baby, I only have to live with my life choices
Weird that your not really able to give a personal opinion on a moral question but I understand the topic is tough for some

Funny how conservatives and Christians had a totally different view as late as the 70’s. They were too busy defending their racism to be concerned with abortion because after all Christian women were enjoying their bodily autonomy also. But being the easily duped rubes you conservatives are that begin to change and our old buddy “suppress the vote” Paul Wyrick is right there.

In 1968, Christianity Today, the flagship magazine of evangelicalism, organized a conference with the Christian Medical Society to discuss the morality of abortion. The gathering attracted 26 heavyweight theologians from throughout the evangelical world, who debated the matter over several days and then issued a statement acknowledging the ambiguities surrounding the issue, which, they said, allowed for many different approaches.

“Whether the performance of an induced abortion is sinful we are not agreed,” the statement read, “but about the necessity of it and permissibility for it under certain circumstances we are in accord.”

Two successive editors of Christianity Today took equivocal stands on abortion. Carl F. H. Henry, the magazine’s founder, affirmed that “a woman’s body is not the domain and property of others,” and his successor, Harold Lindsell, allowed that, “if there are compelling psychiatric reasons from a Christian point of view, mercy and prudence may favor a therapeutic abortion.”

Meeting in St. Louis in 1971, the messengers (delegates) to the Southern Baptist Convention, hardly a redoubt of liberalism, passed a resolution calling for the legalization of abortion, a position they reaffirmed in 1974 — a year after Roe — and again in 1976.

When the Roe decision was handed down, W. A. Criswell, pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas and sometime president of the Southern Baptist Convention, issued a statement praising the ruling. “I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person,” Criswell declared, “and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.”

When Francis Schaeffer, the intellectual godfather of the Religious Right, tried to enlist Billy Graham in his antiabortion crusade in the late 1970s, Graham, the most famous evangelical of the 20th century, turned him down. Even James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family who later became an implacable foe of abortion, acknowledged in 1973 that the Bible was silent on the matter and therefore it was plausible for an evangelical to believe that “a developing embryo or fetus was not regarded as a full human being.”

The Religious Right and the Abortion Myth

White evangelicals in the 1970s didn’t initially care about abortion. They organized to defend racial segregation in evangelical institutions — and only seized on banning abortion because it was more palatable than their real goal.

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Thats a lot of words from some people who lack character in an attempt to justify what you know is wrong, you know its bad to murder a child. You can say it

When their mother said it started. It is her life, her body and her choice to make. There are many miscarriages from nature and abortion is a form of miscarriage. HER RIGHT. Not yours or mine. I don't care a rats ass what you think about conception and the beginning of life. When you King Louy become pregnant then it will be your right

How can you even stand upright?
Abortion is a form of miscarriage? So now abortion is a naturally occurring thing? How many times do you have to say that to yourself to start to believe it?
I can see I hit a nerve thats because you know its murder but you cannot bring yourself to say it, let alone admit it to yourself. I would hate you have your character.

A Republican accidentally tells the truth.

Tim Burchett R-TN answers question on why other countries don’t have our rates of gun death,

“Well, they don’t have our freedom, either, they don’t have the Second Amendment,”

Look at you trying to change the subject, big guy, its OK to think that murdering a child isn't murder.
Maybe gun deaths are a natural form of post birth abortion, that how mput may see it

A Republican accidentally tells the truth.

Tim Burchett R-TN answers question on why other countries don’t have our rates of gun death,

“Well, they don’t have our freedom, either, they don’t have the Second Amendment,”

Why do you think this was an accident? Life is a balance, the more good is going to come with more bad, thats just the way of things. Maybe we should get rid of all the guns and then see how long it takes for all of us to become slaves, just saying

I would never wish for Tucker Carlson to have any platform because he abuses power. There was a time when I thought he had something to say that was beneficial but when trump became a politician his bright light turned off and all that was left is darkness. Rush Limbaugh the same way. Tucker lied to his audience and talked himself into one retirement and my opinion he will do it again. DeSantis is on the same path. Covered several threads. Efficiency.

How can you possible make your first statement? He's never had any power, he was an employee, any power he was given could have been pulled at any moment, as it was. Tucker has never really liked Trump unless you think he's lying in his personals texts and emails dating back years, maybe he was so smart he saw this coming back in 2019, good one. Tucker is about to become a monster in the political arena, just saying

Or you. That is my point. Neither will EVER have enough information to have "principles to die for" unless we are talking family because information that we get has biases. In this forum all we have are words. No actions. So my take on why we are typing words in a forum is because we have an opportunity to listen, learn and debate issues. I care about issues and others do as well. I do not think that is why you are here. My opinion about you is based on your words and since you do not care about any opinion than yours then please explain why you are here trying to make enemies, not listening and definitely not caring.

I been very consistent and very clear that I am here to learn how the left thinks and process's info. If it helps some time I don't even care about my own opinion. I don't have any enemies, thats not how I roll, I either like you or I don't bother with you. Some times the young man in me likes to argue but I usually get annoyed quickly. I do listen but I generally don't care. You are starting to grow on me sometimes though, you're like a fungus

Thats a lot of words from some people who lack character in an attempt to justify what you know is wrong, you know it’s bad to murder a child. You can say it

It is so tell your side to do something about gun violence then go play ball with an embryo.
If any what religion were you raised under.

Why do you think this was an accident? Life is a balance, the more good is going to come with more bad, thats just the way of things. Maybe we should get rid of all the guns and then see how long it takes for all of us to become slaves, just saying

Great idea! I’m in.
Do you really believe more guns make us safer?

Why do GOP supporters place so much emphasis on strong leaders? Do they need to follow a strong man? WHy not a competent professional? Why not someone who is smart and efficient? Trump is the weakest leader in American history. Say a few kind words to him and he'll follow you around like a puppy dog. Guys like Putin laugh at him.

Why do GOP supporters place so much emphasis on strong leaders? Do they need to follow a strong man? WHy not a competent professional? Why not someone who is smart and efficient? Trump is the weakest leader in American history. Say a few kind words to him and he'll follow you around like a puppy dog. Guys like Putin laugh at him.

Because they have daddy issues.

You either don't read or comprehend well
I already answered all you questions above
Science knows life begins at conception anything else is a political jargon to push an agenda
Christian have had the same stance since the beginning I have no idea as far as republicans
Personally I don't care if somebody murders their baby, I only have to live with my life choices
Weird that your not really able to give a personal opinion on a moral question but I understand the topic is tough for some

You’re full of it, read the timeline, or have someone in your little chat group read it, in the article contained in the link I provided. Christians didn’t give a sht until they were told to in the 70’s.
Having been born in 1951 this is something I have personally witnessed.

I’m going to say I agree with these two loons. If no MAGAS are participating in the debates the nation has a chance to be less stupid.

A reminder to ignore the radical MAGA
a-holes in your red state and simply obey the law.

Feds: Hospitals that denied emergency abortion broke the law​

It is so tell your side to do something about gun violence then go play ball with an embryo.
If any what religion were you raised under.

poppa
I am a huge gun guy, my friends are huge gun guys, no one on either side wants to see a single child get hurt
What gun measures would have stopped any of the gun violence in the past 10 years?
People with bad intention are going to do bad, the gun is the object of choice if it is an option for them
Murder is already illegal so these people are already criminals by definition.
Everyone I know is for anything that will actually help and I think that one crosses party lines

I was not raised with religion at all
I am not sure what I believe as far as god or something like that

Great idea! I’m in.
Do you really believe more guns make us safer?

Factually any area with more guns is significantly safer then areas with strict guns laws
Interpret that as you see fit
I've been around thousands of guns and not one of them has ever hurt anyone

You’re full of it, read the timeline, or have someone in your little chat group read it, in the article contained in the link I provided. Christians didn’t give a sht until they were told to in the 70’s.
Having been born in 1951 this is something I have personally witnessed.

What am I full of?
You posting one cherry picked article that may have been written from someone with an agenda is not going to change what you or me knows is morally wrong
Who cares who wrote what or when they wrote it, you cannot say you want to save kids from guns and in the next breath not want to protect kids from abortion. Pick a lane

I’m going to say I agree with these two loons. If no MAGAS are participating in the debates the nation has a chance to be less stupid.

Trump and Kari Lake hint at MAGA boycott if DeSantis pursues GOP nomination

Trump retweeted a county singer's post that suggested the Florida governor wouldn't be backed by Trump supporters if he's the GOP's presidential candidate.

www.newsweek.com

This is like porn to the left, enjoy

Factually any area with more guns is significantly safer then areas with strict guns laws
Interpret that as you see fit
I've been around thousands of guns and not one of them has ever hurt anyone

When is that going to happen?
We already have more guns per capita than anywhere in the universe so when does the safer part kick in?

What am I full of?
You posting one cherry picked article that may have been written from someone with an agenda is not going to change what you or me knows is morally wrong
Who cares who wrote what or when they wrote it, you cannot say you want to save kids from guns and in the next breath not want to protect kids from abortion. Pick a lane

It is an article written from factual historical record. Your willful ignorance is strong.

Why do GOP supporters place so much emphasis on strong leaders? Do they need to follow a strong man? WHy not a competent professional? Why not someone who is smart and efficient? Trump is the weakest leader in American history. Say a few kind words to him and he'll follow you around like a puppy dog. Guys like Putin laugh at him.

Dawn, no one listens to or fears weak leaders. People only follow strong leaders, they don't have to be men. A competent professional has his place but its not at the tip of the spear. Smart and efficient are great qualities but it takes strength to lead. Clearly you don't like Trump but it is undeniable that no one messed with the US during his reign. Whens the last time an American president walked in North Korea? If you think Putin would have invaded the Ukraine under Trump you are fooling yourself. If you think China would be meeting with the middle east you are fooling yourself. The world knows we are weak right now and I hope we can make a change before it bites us in the ass

It is an article written from factual historical record. Your willful ignorance is strong.

And this affects your character? the moral decisions you make? You're too old to be this silly

And this affects your character? the moral decisions you make? You're too old to be this silly

What’s your view on freezing kids for later use?

When is that going to happen?
We already have more guns per capita than anywhere in the universe so when does the safer part kick in?

The safer part kinks in when we actually want to address the real problem
Let me know if you want the real answer on this

What’s your view on freezing kids for later use?

Good question, I don't know, I've never really thought about it.
I can see how this is a solution for some people but I'm sure there are issues downstream.
I will think about this and reply later