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What is the Tea Party?

Bob Wells avatar
Bob WellsBeach Fanatic
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Just asking, what is the the Tea Party, what does the Tea Party believe in. I have an idea but only because I am not, but would love to understand what it is and why they believe what they believe?

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Henry ApfelbachBeach Lover
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I love the fact that they love the constitution and appear to use it like a weapon, but do they remember it is not a perfect document as history has shown us over and over. I also love all the Thomas Jefferson quotes. Here is one that sticks out to me. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal". He wrote this but yet did nothing about slavery. What does that say about him as a person? If you look at our history the founding fathers created a nation with a giant flaw. They created a constitution that allowed slavery among other things. We needed a war just to fix that flaw. But we also have a short memory as a country. We hold our founding fathers high on a pedestal but they were not perfect as we are not perfect now. I believe Abraham Lincoln said it best. A great battle was fought so that “government of the people, by the people, and for the people, shall not perish from this earth”. 150yrs later and we are still kicking. I don’t really understand what the Tea Party thinks has happened. Is it just a fad?
idlewindBeach Fanatic
#4
Our form of government as envisioned by the founding fathers is imperfect but is superior to every other form of government known to man. And indeed it was fashioned by imperfect men, but as the only perfect man once said, " he who is without sin, let him cast the first stone." Slavery was the most vexing problem of the time in 1700-1800 America and the country failed to deal with it properly with the ultimate solution costing over 600,000 American lives, the vast majority of whom never owned a single slave.
While no one deserves a pedestal, the founding fathers deserve enormous credit for constructing a system of government that led to the largest economic boom and expansion in history. Our problems today, from ignoring Washington's counsel against foreign entanglements to ignoring Madison's 10th Amendment, come from our departure from the foundation and expanding the size and scope of the federal government. Our solution is therefore simple: return to the system of government designed by the founding fathers.
Henry ApfelbachBeach Lover
#5
Key word used? Amendment. This document had to be amended right from the start so if you want to use the document the founding fathers agreed upon I’ll give you the bill of rights but, what about the 17 other good changes to the constitution that happened well after the founding fathers? I believe their key argument is out of context. The constitution is a living and growing document and was meant that way or they would not have left a way to amend the articles. Just a reminder it was the war to end slavery that really put the federal government in prespective. Until that point it was all about state rights but we know how that ended.
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AlphaCrabBeach Fanatic
#7
Could someone please give me the demographic make up of the Walton County Tea Party: male vs female, under 55 Vs over 55, white Vs non-white, white collar Vs blue collar, etc.

If I had this information I could tell you exactly who the average Tea Partier is and what they believe in (once the fake "let's take back the Constitution" mantel is removed), and I will be 95% accurate.

Any takers?
Kurt avatar
KurtAdmin
#8
Could someone please give me the demographic make up of the Walton County Tea Party: male vs female, under 55 Vs over 55, white Vs non-white, white collar Vs blue collar, etc.

If I had this information I could tell you exactly who the average Tea Partier is and what they believe in (once the fake "let's take back the Constitution" mantel is removed), and I will be 95% accurate.

Any takers?
Maybe you could go ahead and make your point in a clear and respectful way.
Andy A avatar
Andy ABeach Fanatic
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AC, I have serious doubts about your demographic methodology being able to determine "exactly who the average Tea Partier is and what they believe in (once the fake "let's take back the Constitution" mantel is removed), and I will be 95% accurate." would be successful.
I can tell you without providing your required demographics but you won't accept or like what you are told.
A "Tea Partier" does believe in the Constitution, the fact it can be amended and when required should be and that it is the primary law of the land from which all other laws should flow.
A "Tea Partier" is normally one who has served their country in one way or another and has strong beliefs in the system of capitalism and assistance to those who need assistance in whatever manner that may be.
A "Tea Partier" believes in a small, compact government that is as responsive as possible to its citizens and realizes it works for them, not them working for the government.
A "Tea Partier" is for a system of taxation that is one in which all are treated fairly. They also believe that the spending done by government should be judicious and meet the goals for which such spending was designed.
I could go on but I will challenge other "Tea Partiers" to add their own attributes of the Tea Party. Members of the Tea Party are not necessarily of a certain age, sex, race, religious backround or political belief but are of the opinion we are headed in the wrong direction and wish to get us back to the right one. And they are right!
idlewindBeach Fanatic
#10
The main focus of most members I know is to return to limited government. Each level, federal, state and local has its place and most members wish to return to a place where the federal government stayed out of the state and local business. In a nutshell, most believe that the best government is that government closest to the people it governs.
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30A SkunkapeSkunky
#11
You all can say what you want, but if you look at the Walton County Tea Party Patriot website linked by Andy A., it looks to me like the agenda is anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-United Nations taking our guns and anti-any religion other than Christianity as being 'American'. Yes, there is talk of small government and spending limits, too. Interesting that Thomas Jefferson, who I strongly doubt would consisder himself a 'Christian' in the 21st Century sense of the term, is so oft quoted on the website (and I am dubious the quotes are wholly accurate-Mr Kelly who looks to be part of this group was busted printing fake Abe Lincoln quotes in the Defuniak Herald before he was shown the door). If it floats your boat, OK, freedom to assemble is yours to use as you wish. I'll pass.
CampCreekLou avatar
CampCreekLouBeach Lover
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Could someone please give me the demographic make up of the Walton County Tea Party: male vs female, under 55 Vs over 55, white Vs non-white, white collar Vs blue collar, etc.

If I had this information I could tell you exactly who the average Tea Partier is and what they believe in (once the fake "let's take back the Constitution" mantel is removed), and I will be 95% accurate.

Any takers?

Do you think that if I was told the race of our current president, that I could tell you how good a job he is doing? And how long he'll last in the job? :bang:
30ashopper avatar
30ashopperSoWal Insider
#13
Key word used? Amendment. This document had to be amended right from the start so if you want to use the document the founding fathers agreed upon I’ll give you the bill of rights but, what about the 17 other good changes to the constitution that happened well after the founding fathers? I believe their key argument is out of context. The constitution is a living and growing document and was meant that way or they would not have left a way to amend the articles. Just a reminder it was the war to end slavery that really put the federal government in prespective. Until that point it was all about state rights but we know how that ended.

Exactly, and that ability was built into the original design. So long as we respect original intent and avoid undermining the power the Constitution holds, we'll be just fine. I think this more than anything is the main thrust of the TP movement - the federal government is an abomination in the context what the Constitution defines as it's role. We need to start undoing some of the damage that has been done over the last 70 years. If we choose to expand federal power, it should be accomplished through amendments that grant that power, not through an ever creeping redefinition based on 'reinterpretation' by the people who hold power.
LuciferSam avatar
LuciferSamBanned
#14
Navigating Andy's link is like experienceing a kind of strange, surreal, tripped out nightmare.
Andy A avatar
Andy ABeach Fanatic
#15
Navigating Andy's link is like experienceing a kind of strange, surreal, tripped out nightmare.
Nothing says you have to agree but I was asked what the Tea Party is about. It makes perfect sense to me but then I've been around long enough to see many things happen in this nation so I'm sure my inclinations and observations are without merit because they have been formed by time and not elite intelligence.
Zebraspots avatar
ZebraspotsBeach Fanatic
#16
Do you think that if I was told the race of our current president, that I could tell you how good a job he is doing? And how long he'll last in the job? :bang:

Please tell me I am misinterpreting your post.
Henry ApfelbachBeach Lover
#17
I get the feeling from reading their website that they are a state right's type of organization. It's sad but even after the civil war the Supreme Court has had to rule on this issue. They have time and time again upheld federal law over state laws.

I was also struck at all the Thomas Jefferson quotes on the page and I wonder if they have any idea what he really stood for? If you have studied American history you will find out fast he was a fence rider and did not speak for or against much of anything. A very smart man indeed becuase it made him a great politician even in his time.
beachFoolBeach Fanatic
#18
He did like girls...especially the ones he owned.
CampCreekLou avatar
CampCreekLouBeach Lover
#19
Please tell me I am misinterpreting your post.

you are.
Gidget avatar
GidgetBeach Fanatic
#20
You all can say what you want, but if you look at the Walton County Tea Party Patriot website linked by Andy A., it looks to me like the agenda is anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-United Nations taking our guns and anti-any religion other than Christianity as being 'American'. Yes, there is talk of small government and spending limits, too. Interesting that Thomas Jefferson, who I strongly doubt would consisder himself a 'Christian' in the 21st Century sense of the term, is so oft quoted on the website (and I am dubious the quotes are wholly accurate-Mr Kelly who looks to be part of this group was busted printing fake Abe Lincoln quotes in the Defuniak Herald before he was shown the door). If it floats your boat, OK, freedom to assemble is yours to use as you wish. I'll pass.

I just went to the site - I'll pass too skunky.

And this is one of their petitions to Home Depot on the local site:
To: The Home Depot:

I very much appreciate your policy of continuing benefits for employees called to active duty in the military, and making up the difference between military and Home Depot pay. This policy is of tremendous help to military families.

However, I peacefully but vehemently protest the efforts of some local stores (e.g. Boston, Chicago, Southern Maine, and Central Pennsylvania) to promote homosexual sin, especially when this promotion targets children. In my opinion, the promotion of unnatural vice is a terrible sin that greatly offends God, violates Natural Law, corrupts children’s souls, and warps their understanding of God’s plan for marriage and family.

Please change the homosexualist policy pursued by these local stores and keep The Home Depot the family-friendly business we so much appreciate.

Sincerely,

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So it is one thing to discuss boycotting a store, but to call homosexualtiy 'a sin that greatly offends God'? I just spent 2 days with the most caring, loving and fabulous men I've ever met. All 6 were gay and two were my brother in law and his partner. They were all in monogamous relationships - one couple for 20 years. They were funny, kind, helping, model citizens and never an ungentlemanlike comment from their mouths - and you should my brother in law and his partner with kids - they are the most caring souls! No "God" could be offended by these men. This is just fear mongering - and if people don't want their kids seeing what goes on at Home Depot sponsored gay pride parades then don't take the kids.

I just love my brother in law and his partner SO much :wub: and I get very upset and defensive when I read such bitter words.

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