TreeFrog
TreeFrogBeach FanaticSeagrove1,793 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
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in Seagrove. I've been watching it for several weeks now. At first, it looked like maybe utility work. Drove in there today and there's a major project underway. Curbs, sidewalks, parking. Is this spillover for the walkover on the other side of 30A?
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13BeachSiO2
BeachSiO2Beach Fanatic3,294 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Yes, it's additional parking for beach access in that area of Seagrove. It was a good spot due to the three accesses in close proximity, one of which has a restroom and ADA walkover. There were a series of public meetings held last year by the TDC as it was undergoing planning and design. Dave Sell at the TDC is your best contact for more information.
NotDeadYet
NotDeadYetBeach Fanatic1,416 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I noticed there is not a crosswalk on 30A at Santa Clara. One will be needed now.
BeachSiO2
BeachSiO2Beach Fanatic3,294 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I noticed there is not a crosswalk on 30A at Santa Clara. One will be needed now.
There is one planned for the western side where Santa Clara meets 30-A, i.e. the new sidewalk meets 30-A.
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Lake View Too
Lake View TooSoWal InsiderEastern Lake7,000 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
There is one planned for the western side where Santa Clara meets 30-A, i.e. the new sidewalk meets 30-A.
I'm no engineering genius, but the fact that the sidewalk is 4" higher than the road (30-A) bothers the crap out of me. Seems very dangerous to me.
Beach Runner
Beach Runnerbeats on hoodNear the ATL and in SoWal as often as possible15,269 postsJoined View profileMessagebeats on hood
I'm no engineering genius, but the fact that the sidewalk is 4" higher than the road (30-A) bothers the crap out of me. Seems very dangerous to me.Exactly. When I saw that, I thought, "What were they thinking?" Not wheelchair friendly, not stroller friendly, not kids-in-a-wagon friendly, not pulling-a-big-cooler friendly, etc. If someone's vehicle hits it, it will be a real jolt at minimum.
Thanks for asking the question TreeFrog because I've been wondering too.
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Lake View Too
Lake View TooSoWal InsiderEastern Lake7,000 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Exactly. When I saw that, I thought, "What were they thinking?" Not wheelchair friendly, not stroller friendly, not kids-in-a-wagon friendly, not pulling-a-big-cooler friendly, etc. If someone's vehicle hits it, it will be a real jolt at minimum.
Thanks for asking the question TreeFrog because I've been wondering too.
...not bicycler friendly, not pedestrian friendly...you could go on and on. I've been watching this project for months, and have never seen anything take so long.
scooterbug44
scooterbug44SoWal ExpertSowal16,706 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
I'm no engineering genius, but the fact that the sidewalk is 4" higher than the road (30-A) bothers the crap out of me. Seems very dangerous to me.
What could possibly go wrong with a 4" piece of concrete sticking into a roadway where noone ever drives outside the lines and every bike rider is a pro? :sarc:
Beach Runner
Beach Runnerbeats on hoodNear the ATL and in SoWal as often as possible15,269 postsJoined View profileMessagebeats on hood
What could possibly go wrong with a 4" piece of concrete sticking into a roadway where noone ever drives outside the lines and every bike rider is a pro? :sarc:Exactly.
DuneAHH
DuneAHHBeach FanaticPt Washington - west ;)3,072 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
How tough would it have been to gently slope it ramp-style?
scooterbug44
scooterbug44SoWal ExpertSowal16,706 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
How tough would it have been to gently slope it ramp-style?
Not very tough at all - which is why the majority of sidewalks in the US meet the lower street level that way.
It's concrete 101 - they even have guidelines about the patterns for the sloped part to give traction for wheelchairs. :roll:
DuneAHH
DuneAHHBeach FanaticPt Washington - west ;)3,072 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Not very tough at all - which is why the majority of sidewalks in the US meet the lower street level that way.
It's concrete 101 - they even have guidelines about the patterns for the sloped part to give traction for wheelchairs. :roll:
RTV! Do Over on their dime/time!!:roll:
tsutcli
tsutcliBeach FanaticSeacrest914 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Everywhere I have ever lived sidewalks have always been elevated several inches above street level. I always thought the sidewalks in this area were not designed well only because people park on them all the time and drive right over them when they cut corners too short. I have yet to see a sidewalk in good condition here because of that. You take your life in your hands in my neighborhood when walking on the sidewalk especially at night because the concrete is breaking apart in big chunks at all the cracks and no one is interested in repairing them. Elevated sidewalks are always sloped in spots or have ramp like areas in several places and also at the end of every driveway for easy access by bicycle, wheelchair or whatever. Frankly I like that idea better and wish they were all constructed that way here but that takes more time and is more difficult to do. Sidewalks would remain in much better condition if they were constructed that way.
BeachSiO2
BeachSiO2Beach Fanatic3,294 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Since it appears that no one had taken my advice to check with the TDC, I decided to do it for all of us and here is their response. As I expected, the project is still ongoing. I would highly recommend contacting them directly if you have any other questions.
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[FONT="]The project is ongoing and so what you are currently seeing is not the completed project. The valid concerns that were raised are an example of the ongoing construction. Currently, the sidewalk tie-in with 30-A is not complete because the crosswalk has not yet been addressed. The current sidewalk is higher than the asphalt on 30A since the overall project includes a slightly raised crosswalk crossing over 30A that will tie back in to the same elevation as the sidewalk. Once complete, the parking facility will meet ADA guidelines. [/FONT][FONT="]
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