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Missed it tonite, but plan to watch. Looks like it's amazing. I noticed Good Morning America this morning was going to have the "Barney Cam" (?) with the White House Dogs. Missed it too though!  :bang:

Missed it tonite, but plan to watch. Looks like it&#039;s amazing. I noticed Good Morning America this morning was going to have the &quot;Barney Cam&quot; (?) with the White House Dogs. Missed it too though!  :bang:

BeachDreamer

Beach Fanatic

We did see the big gingerbread house competition, and that was fantastic.  I was disappointed that the winner of the childrens' division was a toddler whose mother actually carried her up to receive the prize.  It was obvious who had done all the work.  So many kids slaved for weeks over their gingerbread creations, to have someone's mother steal the winning spot.  But other than that (yeah, I stewed over it for a day and a half, lol) it was awesome.

We did see the big gingerbread house competition, and that was fantastic.  I was disappointed that the winner of the childrens&#039; division was a toddler whose mother actually carried her up to receive the prize.  It was obvious who had done all the work.  So many kids slaved for weeks over their gingerbread creations, to have someone&#039;s mother steal the winning spot.  But other than that (yeah, I stewed over it for a day and a half, lol) it was awesome.

Sheila

SoWal Insider

[QUOTE=BeachDreamer]We did see the big gingerbread house competition, and that was fantastic.  I was disappointed that the winner of the childrens' division was a toddler whose mother actually carried her up to receive the prize.  It was obvious who had done all the work.  So many kids slaved for weeks over their gingerbread creations, to have someone's mother steal the winning spot.  But other than that (yeah, I stewed over it for a day and a half, lol) it was awesome.[/QUOTE]

I agree. She was a cute child but I doubt she could say, "teapot", let alone bake and make one. They should change the rules for that category. They were all pretty incrediable though. Worth a watch for sure!

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="BeachDreamer">We did see the big gingerbread house competition, and that was fantastic. I was disappointed that the winner of the childrens&#039; division was a toddler whose mother actually carried her up to receive the prize. It was obvious who had done all the work. So many kids slaved for weeks over their gingerbread creations, to have someone&#039;s mother steal the winning spot. But other than that (yeah, I stewed over it for a day and a half, lol) it was awesome.</blockquote> 
I agree. She was a cute child but I doubt she could say, &quot;teapot&quot;, let alone bake and make one. They should change the rules for that category. They were all pretty incrediable though. Worth a watch for sure!

Miss Kitty

Meow

The Kitty's received thier White House Christmas Card and it is a cutie!!  A painitng of the White House in the snow with two little black dogs sitting in the front lawn!!!  Much better than the calendar we received with a Bush theme!!! Man, I really should have saved that one to regift and give to a real life member of the other party!!!  Beware giving any monies to any party!!! 
I do love the Barney cam!

The Kitty&#039;s received thier White House Christmas Card and it is a cutie!! A painitng of the White House in the snow with two little black dogs sitting in the front lawn!!! Much better than the calendar we received with a Bush theme!!! Man, I really should have saved that one to regift and give to a real life member of the other party!!! Beware giving any monies to any party!!! 
I do love the Barney cam!

iwishiwasthere

Much discussion over the lack of Merry Christmas on the card since our President proclaims to be a Godly man.  Is it true?

Smiling JOe

I am curious to know how much tax payer dollars is spent on things like decorating the White House and the Christmas parties for the White House. Anyone have a clue. Personally, I think it very wasteful, esp considering all of the homeless people in DC alone. There is a sign on a church marquee in PCB that reads, "Would Jesus want you to go into debt in order to celebrate his birthday?" My question is, would Jesus want our President to spend a few million bucks on decorating for his birthday rather than feeding those without food, clothing those without clothes, and sheltering those without homes? Makes me wonder about the hypocracy that overflows down to the masses.

If the celebration of Jesus' birthday is supposed to be about giving, I question the limitation of our giving mostly to our own families. I wonder if this is what Jesus really taught. Let's help people out, but keep it close to the family. :idontno: From everything that I understand about Jesus, this action goes against his principles, as well as the principles of John the Baptist. 

I encourage you to find a stranger in need to help out this Christmas. There are plenty out there. It doesn't mean that you cannot or should not buy gifts for your family, but do as Jesus would, and venture out of your own little world. 

I know some of you guys are in the know, and I am proud of you. ;-)

I am curious to know how much tax payer dollars is spent on things like decorating the White House and the Christmas parties for the White House. Anyone have a clue. Personally, I think it very wasteful, esp considering all of the homeless people in DC alone. There is a sign on a church marquee in PCB that reads, &quot;Would Jesus want you to go into debt in order to celebrate his birthday?&quot; My question is, would Jesus want our President to spend a few million bucks on decorating for his birthday rather than feeding those without food, clothing those without clothes, and sheltering those without homes? Makes me wonder about the hypocracy that overflows down to the masses. 
 
If the celebration of Jesus&#039; birthday is supposed to be about giving, I question the limitation of our giving mostly to our own families. I wonder if this is what Jesus really taught. Let&#039;s help people out, but keep it close to the family. :idontno: From everything that I understand about Jesus, this action goes against his principles, as well as the principles of John the Baptist. 
 
I encourage you to find a stranger in need to help out this Christmas. There are plenty out there. It doesn&#039;t mean that you cannot or should not buy gifts for your family, but do as Jesus would, and venture out of your own little world. 
 
I know some of you guys are in the know, and I am proud of you. ;-)

Mermaid

picky

[QUOTE=Smiling JOe]I am curious to know how much tax payer dollars is spent on things like decorating the White House and the Christmas parties for the White House. Anyone have a clue. Personally, I think it very wasteful, esp considering all of the homeless people in DC alone. There is a sign on a church marquee in PCB that reads, "Would Jesus want you to go into debt in order to celebrate his birthday?" My question is, would Jesus want our President to spend a few million bucks on decorating for his birthday rather than feeding those without food, clothing those without clothes, and sheltering those without homes? Makes me wonder about the hypocracy that overflows down to the masses.

If the celebration of Jesus' birthday is supposed to be about giving, I question the limitation of our giving mostly to our own families. I wonder if this is what Jesus really taught. Let's help people out, but keep it close to the family. :idontno: From everything that I understand about Jesus, this action goes against his principles, as well as the principles of John the Baptist. 

I encourage you to find a stranger in need to help out this Christmas. There are plenty out there. It doesn't mean that you cannot or should not buy gifts for your family, but do as Jesus would, and venture out of your own little world. 

I know some of you guys are in the know, and I am proud of you. ;-)[/QUOTE]

Very interesting post, SJ.  You always give us something to mull over and debate in our minds!  Here are my thoughts on the subject--yes, practically speaking, it IS wasteful to spend a gazillion dollars on decorations.  Especially when there are hungry mouths literally at the White House door.  However, is it not written "the poor will always be with us?"  NOT decorating and using the money towards helping the poor will take care of the problem for, say, a week or two?  And once again, the poor will still be with us.

The White House decorations are lovely.  They are accessible to everyone to view and take pleasure in.  Can you not argue that someone's sad heart would be gladdened by looking at such an exuberant display of holiday spirit?  I don't think it's sinful to want to make the world beautiful, not when it spreads happiness to so many people.  Jesus wasn't against celebration, not at all.  Remember the wedding feast where he turned water into wine?  He didn't argue that water was free and wine cost money!  

I think there is a happy balance for all this.  Decorate and celebrate for the Christmas holidays.  It's joyful in a dark, cold time of year.  But remember the original reason for the celebration, and SHARE.  Giving in the holiday season, helping someone, is really a gift to yourself.   :wub:

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Smiling JOe">I am curious to know how much tax payer dollars is spent on things like decorating the White House and the Christmas parties for the White House. Anyone have a clue. Personally, I think it very wasteful, esp considering all of the homeless people in DC alone. There is a sign on a church marquee in PCB that reads, &quot;Would Jesus want you to go into debt in order to celebrate his birthday?&quot; My question is, would Jesus want our President to spend a few million bucks on decorating for his birthday rather than feeding those without food, clothing those without clothes, and sheltering those without homes? Makes me wonder about the hypocracy that overflows down to the masses. 
 
If the celebration of Jesus&#039; birthday is supposed to be about giving, I question the limitation of our giving mostly to our own families. I wonder if this is what Jesus really taught. Let&#039;s help people out, but keep it close to the family. :idontno: From everything that I understand about Jesus, this action goes against his principles, as well as the principles of John the Baptist. 
 
I encourage you to find a stranger in need to help out this Christmas. There are plenty out there. It doesn&#039;t mean that you cannot or should not buy gifts for your family, but do as Jesus would, and venture out of your own little world. 
 
I know some of you guys are in the know, and I am proud of you. ;-)</blockquote> 
Very interesting post, SJ. You always give us something to mull over and debate in our minds! Here are my thoughts on the subject--yes, practically speaking, it IS wasteful to spend a gazillion dollars on decorations. Especially when there are hungry mouths literally at the White House door. However, is it not written &quot;the poor will always be with us?&quot; NOT decorating and using the money towards helping the poor will take care of the problem for, say, a week or two? And once again, the poor will still be with us. 
 
The White House decorations are lovely. They are accessible to everyone to view and take pleasure in. Can you not argue that someone&#039;s sad heart would be gladdened by looking at such an exuberant display of holiday spirit? I don&#039;t think it&#039;s sinful to want to make the world beautiful, not when it spreads happiness to so many people. Jesus wasn&#039;t against celebration, not at all. Remember the wedding feast where he turned water into wine? He didn&#039;t argue that water was free and wine cost money! 
 
I think there is a happy balance for all this. Decorate and celebrate for the Christmas holidays. It&#039;s joyful in a dark, cold time of year. But remember the original reason for the celebration, and SHARE. Giving in the holiday season, helping someone, is really a gift to yourself. :wub:

seagrovelover

little sugar

[QUOTE=iwishiwasthere]Much discussion over the lack of Merry Christmas on the card since our President proclaims to be a Godly man.  Is it true?[/QUOTE]

No Merry Christmas, but Psalm 28:7  and wishes for a holiday season of hope and happiness.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="iwishiwasthere">Much discussion over the lack of Merry Christmas on the card since our President proclaims to be a Godly man. Is it true?</blockquote> 
No Merry Christmas, but Psalm 28:7 and wishes for a holiday season of hope and happiness.

Very good points, Mermaid. I know the White House is symbolic and I can see reasons for going all-out with the decorations. 

Just as you say that the decorations may speak to the hearts of people during an otherwise bleak winter, imagine the smile on the face, or the warmth in the heart of someone, down on their luck who lost their job and their home, who is welcomed with open arms and a bowl of warm, hearty soup for one meal. Just imagine. Sure many hungry people who are fed a few meals will again be without in the future, but imagine the change in the lives of the people who just needed that warm and thoughtful boost. Their lives will be changed forever. I am not certain that the same can be said for us who simply see the decorations as beautiful to gaze our warm and mostly comfortable eyes upon. 

I hear you loud and clear, but I do feel that there is another layer underneath. A grand celebration is fine, but let's remember that it should not bring pause to the cause of caring and the true sense of giving. :D


If you want to give me a gift for Christmas, take a warm coat to your nearest homeless shelter. :D

Very good points, Mermaid. I know the White House is symbolic and I can see reasons for going all-out with the decorations. 
 
Just as you say that the decorations may speak to the hearts of people during an otherwise bleak winter, imagine the smile on the face, or the warmth in the heart of someone, down on their luck who lost their job and their home, who is welcomed with open arms and a bowl of warm, hearty soup for one meal. Just imagine. Sure many hungry people who are fed a few meals will again be without in the future, but imagine the change in the lives of the people who just needed that warm and thoughtful boost. Their lives will be changed forever. I am not certain that the same can be said for us who simply see the decorations as beautiful to gaze our warm and mostly comfortable eyes upon. 
 
I hear you loud and clear, but I do feel that there is another layer underneath. A grand celebration is fine, but let&#039;s remember that it should not bring pause to the cause of caring and the true sense of giving. 😀 
 
 
If you want to give me a gift for Christmas, take a warm coat to your nearest homeless shelter. 😀

Psalm 28:7

The Lord is my strength and my shield,
  in whom my heart trusted and found help.
So my heart rejoices;
  with my song I praise my God.

Psalm 28:7 
 
The Lord is my strength and my shield, 
 in whom my heart trusted and found help. 
So my heart rejoices; 
 with my song I praise my God.

[QUOTE=Smiling JOe]Very good points, Mermaid. I know the White House is symbolic and I can see reasons for going all-out with the decorations. 

Just as you say that the decorations may speak to the hearts of people during an otherwise bleak winter, imagine the smile on the face, or the warmth in the heart of someone, down on their luck who lost their job and their home, who is welcomed with open arms and a bowl of warm, hearty soup for one meal. Just imagine. Sure many hungry people who are fed a few meals will again be without in the future, but imagine the change in the lives of the people who just needed that warm and thoughtful boost. Their lives will be changed forever. I am not certain that the same can be said for us who simply see the decorations as beautiful to gaze our warm and mostly comfortable eyes upon. 

I hear you loud and clear, but I do feel that there is another layer underneath. A grand celebration is fine, but let's remember that it should not bring pause to the cause of caring and the true sense of giving. :D


If you want to give me a gift for Christmas, take a warm coat to your nearest homeless shelter. :D[/QUOTE]

That's what I said, SJ!  Enjoy the celebration, AND share with the less fortunate.  There's room for both; there SHOULD be both in this Christmas season.   :wub:

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Smiling JOe">Very good points, Mermaid. I know the White House is symbolic and I can see reasons for going all-out with the decorations. 
 
Just as you say that the decorations may speak to the hearts of people during an otherwise bleak winter, imagine the smile on the face, or the warmth in the heart of someone, down on their luck who lost their job and their home, who is welcomed with open arms and a bowl of warm, hearty soup for one meal. Just imagine. Sure many hungry people who are fed a few meals will again be without in the future, but imagine the change in the lives of the people who just needed that warm and thoughtful boost. Their lives will be changed forever. I am not certain that the same can be said for us who simply see the decorations as beautiful to gaze our warm and mostly comfortable eyes upon. 
 
I hear you loud and clear, but I do feel that there is another layer underneath. A grand celebration is fine, but let&#039;s remember that it should not bring pause to the cause of caring and the true sense of giving. 😀 
 
 
If you want to give me a gift for Christmas, take a warm coat to your nearest homeless shelter. 😀</blockquote> 
That&#039;s what I said, SJ! Enjoy the celebration, AND share with the less fortunate. There&#039;s room for both; there SHOULD be both in this Christmas season. :wub:

[QUOTE=Sueshore]No Merry Christmas, but Psalm 28:7  and wishes for a holiday season of hope and happiness.[/QUOTE]
 I do so wish the media printed the entire story, not just the spin they wanted. Thanks for correcting the misconception.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Sueshore">No Merry Christmas, but Psalm 28:7 and wishes for a holiday season of hope and happiness.</blockquote> I do so wish the media printed the entire story, not just the spin they wanted. Thanks for correcting the misconception.

SJ, I was thinking the same thing about the expensive decorations when I watched the White House rerun last night. But I think that they actually have reasons for the way they do things.  The White House is a world wide symbol of leadership and respect.  The more breathtaking and elegant this symbol is, the more respect and awe the "masses" will have towards this country and it's leadership.  While I would also rather see the money used for more productive purposes, I can understand the concept.  If the leader of your country lives in a hovel, what does it say about your country?  (Regardless of whether he spends his money in better areas.)  Does that make sense?  It's all about image.  Image doesn't feed people, but it does have a definite impact in our society and in the world.  That's why the Catholic church spent so much on their grand churches and elaborate decorations.  They wanted their people to "see" the "glory of God".  And the White House staff wants the world to see the power and integrity of the President.

Not saying I agree with it.  I just know why they do it.  

As for helping others, we are doing our part.  We sponser a Compassion child year-round, and are sending money to several less fortunate families this year.  Hard to think about buying people gifts when they need food.

SJ, I was thinking the same thing about the expensive decorations when I watched the White House rerun last night. But I think that they actually have reasons for the way they do things. The White House is a world wide symbol of leadership and respect. The more breathtaking and elegant this symbol is, the more respect and awe the &quot;masses&quot; will have towards this country and it&#039;s leadership. While I would also rather see the money used for more productive purposes, I can understand the concept. If the leader of your country lives in a hovel, what does it say about your country? (Regardless of whether he spends his money in better areas.) Does that make sense? It&#039;s all about image. Image doesn&#039;t feed people, but it does have a definite impact in our society and in the world. That&#039;s why the Catholic church spent so much on their grand churches and elaborate decorations. They wanted their people to &quot;see&quot; the &quot;glory of God&quot;. And the White House staff wants the world to see the power and integrity of the President. 
 
Not saying I agree with it. I just know why they do it. 
 
As for helping others, we are doing our part. We sponser a Compassion child year-round, and are sending money to several less fortunate families this year. Hard to think about buying people gifts when they need food.

Rita

margarita brocolia

Besides providing Christmas for a child through our church, for the last few years Bill & I have forgone gifts to each other and spent a family evening shopping with that money to provide for other "Christmas Angels". We make it a fun evening - shopping, eating out, wrapping the gifts ... 
We feel it is good for our daughter to be part of this also. She needs to experience that feeling of giving too.

Besides providing Christmas for a child through our church, for the last few years Bill &amp; I have forgone gifts to each other and spent a family evening shopping with that money to provide for other &quot;Christmas Angels&quot;. We make it a fun evening - shopping, eating out, wrapping the gifts ... 
We feel it is good for our daughter to be part of this also. She needs to experience that feeling of giving too.

Our kids make boxes for Operation Christmas Child every year, which is a really neat program that sends shoe boxes full of gifts to children all over the world.  Sometimes the recipient will even write back, and that's really exciting.

Our kids make boxes for Operation Christmas Child every year, which is a really neat program that sends shoe boxes full of gifts to children all over the world.  Sometimes the recipient will even write back, and that&#039;s really exciting.

[QUOTE=BeachDreamer]Our kids make boxes for Operation Christmas Child every year, which is a really neat program that sends shoe boxes full of gifts to children all over the world.  Sometimes the recipient will even write back, and that's really exciting.[/QUOTE]

Jackie's done that the last couple years also. I like that program. And we can just take the shoebox to TARGET'  :lol:  and buy until it is full! Easy and fun.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="BeachDreamer">Our kids make boxes for Operation Christmas Child every year, which is a really neat program that sends shoe boxes full of gifts to children all over the world. Sometimes the recipient will even write back, and that&#039;s really exciting.</blockquote> 
Jackie&#039;s done that the last couple years also. I like that program. And we can just take the shoebox to TARGET&#039; :lol: and buy until it is full! Easy and fun.

BeachDreamer, while I hear what you saying about the White House being symbolic, the real question is how would other countries perceive us if our President lived in a modest home, yet all of the US citizens were fed and housed? Do you respect Saddam Heusen's (former) country more because the leader lived in many gold-filled mansions? 

I know we are far from being there, but it never hurts to dream and take baby steps when possible. ;-)

I am so proud of you guys for finding something to get excited about for Christmas, as well as throughout the year. :clap_1: You guys are right, when you give, you receive.

BeachDreamer, while I hear what you saying about the White House being symbolic, the real question is how would other countries perceive us if our President lived in a modest home, yet all of the US citizens were fed and housed? Do you respect Saddam Heusen&#039;s (former) country more because the leader lived in many gold-filled mansions? 
 
I know we are far from being there, but it never hurts to dream and take baby steps when possible. ;-) 
 
I am so proud of you guys for finding something to get excited about for Christmas, as well as throughout the year. :clap_1: You guys are right, when you give, you receive.

[QUOTE=Smiling JOe].... Do you respect Saddam Heusen's (former) country more because the leader lived in many gold-filled mansions? .....
[/QUOTE]
 :scratch:  Interesting comparison SJ.  Hadn't thought about that ...... but it doesn't seem the same - decorating vs garishness.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Smiling JOe">.... Do you respect Saddam Heusen&#039;s (former) country more because the leader lived in many gold-filled mansions? .....</blockquote> :scratch: Interesting comparison SJ. Hadn&#039;t thought about that ...... but it doesn&#039;t seem the same - decorating vs garishness.

pk305

Just watched HGTV's 2005 special showing all the behind the scenes with decorators, staff, and volunteers to get the White House CHRISTMAS ready!!
It will air a number of times between now and Christmas & is a WONDERFUL way to spend an hour!!!   Amazing!!!   Check out the schedule at [url]www.hgtv.com[/url] 

Hope you enjoy it as much as we did!!

Just watched HGTV&#039;s 2005 special showing all the behind the scenes with decorators, staff, and volunteers to get the White House CHRISTMAS ready!! 
It will air a number of times between now and Christmas &amp; is a WONDERFUL way to spend an hour!!! Amazing!!! Check out the schedule at <a href="http://www.hgtv.com" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">www.hgtv.com</a> 
 
Hope you enjoy it as much as we did!!

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