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Keep Off The Dunes

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A lot has been written on this site about reasons to keep off the dunes. A few minutes of people in the dunes taking photos, or kids playing, can undo decades of slow natural processes that build the dunes. They are very fragile. They are disappearing at an alarming rate. It is illegal to walk in the dunes or pick vegetation.

The problem is magnified by the loss of dunes from storms, yet the abuse by visitors seems to be getting worse. We must protect what we have left. Please help by spreading the word and educating anyone you see in the dunes. We also need to make sure locals and property owners are well informed.

Last night there was a wedding on Grayton Beach with over 50 people. They had set up a camping tent in the dunes. As the sun set and the happy couple had been sent on their way, the whole party started off the beach right through the dunes (a Sheriff's deputy in a vehicle was not 50 yards away and he did not flinch). Also during this time there were many other people in the dunes.







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Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#77
"Telling the truth so you don't have to!" -- Smiling Joe

I googled smiling joe and found a website with this quote and this attached photo. I need to ammend the photo caption to read dunes instead of border.
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#78
A keep out sign plunked in the middle of the path with a single chain draped between stakes would be more than enough for me. Or dune fencing; whatever. But really, the county needs to evaluate what is more important: ticking off some tourists temporarily or harming the future of tourism (by losing beach) in the long run? I know extra dollars are scarce, but since that and many other paths are so well-traveled and are so convenient, would building a flat walkover (a la Watersound) be OK? Or would that be damaging too?
The dune system, if invaded by flat walkovers (walk-thru) would fail during storms, due to the low area of the flat walk-thru. Also, they would only accumulate as debris in the water and on the beach after the major storms, due to the wave action ripping them appart. It is not really a long walk to go one or two blocks to the east, and you just may meet some good folks along the way.

The distance between two points is not always a straight line.( this is more for the nerds, so don't fret if you don't comprehend.)
Kurt avatar
KurtAdminAuthor
#79
A keep out sign plunked in the middle of the path with a single chain draped between stakes would be more than enough for me. Or dune fencing; whatever. But really, the county needs to evaluate what is more important: ticking off some tourists temporarily or harming the future of tourism (by losing beach) in the long run? I know extra dollars are scarce, but since that and many other paths are so well-traveled and are so convenient, would building a flat walkover (a la Watersound) be OK? Or would that be damaging too?

Most of that portion of dunes in the middle of Grayton belongs to the State. As part of the plan for the turnover, I heard there was a new boardwalk planned. The existing boardwalk will be removed and a new one built more towards the middle with some type of observation deck. I imagine they might close off one of the drive on points. The one on the west would make sense to close and dunes could be built there.
TooFarTampa avatar
TooFarTampaSoWal Insider
#80
"Telling the truth so you don't have to!" -- Smiling Joe

I googled smiling joe and found a website with this quote and this attached photo. I need to ammend the photo caption to read dunes instead of border.

OMG that is too funny. You have to photoshop "dunes" in there somehow. There's your new avatar.

See, we wouldn't have minded walking a block or two. It's just that the only signal that we may be doing something not quite right was that we were walking down what I presumed was a private drive (for those houses behind Red Bar) before hitting the footpath. But then again, the beach seemed to be RIGHT THERE and was easily accessible. Wide open, with a well-traveled path. Had no idea it was a problem for the dunes. If it's not OK, there needs to be a good way to redirect people. Unless you want to hang out there all day and redirect them yourself, SJ ... 😀
Teresa avatar
TeresaSoWal Guide
#81
Rednecks like to keep it in the family. Why can't you convict a redneck for a crime? ... because all of their DNA is the same.:floor:


😱

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:shock:

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Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#82
OMG that is too funny. You have to photoshop "dunes" in there somehow. There's your new avatar.

See, we wouldn't have minded walking a block or two. It's just that the only signal that we may be doing something not quite right was that we were walking down what I presumed was a private drive (for those houses behind Red Bar) before hitting the footpath. But then again, the beach seemed to be RIGHT THERE and was easily accessible. Wide open, with a well-traveled path. Had no idea it was a problem for the dunes. If it's not OK, there needs to be a good way to redirect people. Unless you want to hang out there all day and redirect them yourself, SJ ... 😀

Not my gig. I would rather enjoy watching the kids play in the water and on the beach and hear the sound of water.
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#83

New Sign to eliminate confusion behind the Red Bar.:clap_1::clap_1::clap_1:
If now they would let me block it off with rusted razor wire.



Recognize this dune crusher? Obviously he is one of those play-stupid A-holes. He was staying at Margaritaville today Aug 13 2005.



While taking his photo, I asked him why he was walking on the dunes. Can't he read the signs?

He says, oh, where is the access? as he is reading the sign with the arrow pointing to the left for access. I pointed out the two accesses to him, and he says, Sorry, I didn't know. If he did not know where the accesses were, deduction tells me that he obviously went down this path to get to the Beach, so he had to walk past this sign, he just doesn't care. He will be back too. He is staying at Margaritaville, behind Red Bar. I sure wish Margaritaville owners would post some good info encouraging peeps to use the real accesses. Maybe they do, I don't know. Darn White Shirt. He's got the collar on the Polo shirt flipped up like one of those grandkids of John Gotti. Real cool -- Jerk!


:bang:
OhioBeachBum avatar
OhioBeachBumBeach Fanatic
#84
New Sign to eliminate confusion behind the Red Bar.:clap_1::clap_1::clap_1:
If now they would let me block it off with rusted razor wire.


Recognize this dune crusher? Obviously he is one of those play-stupid A-holes. He was staying at Margaritaville today Aug 13 2005.
<--snip-->
Darn White Shirt. He's got the collar on the Polo shirt flipped up like one of those grandkids of John Gotti. Real cool -- Jerk!
:bang:

Good the new sign's there, but truth is, there's always gonna be dumb masses like this that can't be bothered - sorry doesn't apply to me - way too cool/busy/important - even if the street, walls, everywhere where plastered with signs. :idontno:
(man, i just gotta get me one of those cool white shirts!! 😀 )
GVMBeach Lover
#85
There's more than a little bit of irony here. Look in the background of the 'jerk' photo...all the cars and trucks parked on the beach. With permits, no less.
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#86
There's more than a little bit of irony here. Look in the background of the 'jerk' photo...all the cars and trucks parked on the beach. With permits, no less.

The vehicles use a designated access, which does not go through the dune system. By driving on the small area of the beach, I do not see them tearing down the dune system. (The area of beach in So Wal is very limited for permitted vehicle beach access. The problem with dune crashers extends the entire length of beach in So Wal.) However, I do think the western most access should be reconsidered. Grayton would be much more protected if dunes were aloud to build on that end. However, a walkover would be needed at that location. As more and more people get Beach Access permits, the County should maybe look into Grandfathering in current permit holders, but limiting new applicants. The vehicles are restricted by hours too, so they do not interfear with the turtle nesting, like the perma-tents.

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TooFarTampa avatar
TooFarTampaSoWal Insider
#87

New Sign to eliminate confusion behind the Red Bar.:clap_1::clap_1::clap_1:
If now they would let me block it off with rusted razor wire.

Wow, now that is clear! Who put that up?? Fess 'up now!!

I love this board! :wub:
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#88
Wow, now that is clear! Who put that up?? Fess 'up now!!

I love this board! :wub:

I think the owners of the house next to it placed it there. They have also blocked off their driveway to help discourage traffic through their driveway. :clap_1::clap_1::clap_1:. I would like to add that it is a very Grayton sign. Grayt job!
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KimmifunnFunnkalicious
#89
Good the new sign's there, but truth is, there's always gonna be dumb masses like this that can't be bothered - sorry doesn't apply to me - way too cool/busy/important - even if the street, walls, everywhere where plastered with signs. :idontno:
(man, i just gotta get me one of those cool white shirts!! 😀 )

Wait...how did you get so close to this guy!!
WildernesterBeach Lover
#90
Righteous indignation can get ugly.
We have tourists who come here for the first time who understandably do not appreciate the impact that they have on the beach ecosystem. Many of us probably create the same sort of havoc when we visit areas with which we are unfamiliar. A friendly, polite reminder will do more good than a bunch of ranting dune Nazis.

As I sat on the beach yesterday as the sun was setting, I could see much more damage having been done earlier that day by the locals in their four-wheel drive vehicles than all of the white shirted tourists have done this summer.

If we really are serious about preserving the beach ecosystem, let?s close the beach to all vehicles, restore the dunes where the vehicle entrances are located, and build boardwalks across the dunes to the beach. Sure, portions of the boardwalks may be destroyed by storms from time to time, but they can be rebuilt.

?We have met the enemy, and the enemy is us.?

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