seen in Seaside this morning

Will the little pink houses be next to make room for condos?

A few of the kiosks were moved to the croquet / pool area to find new lives. Seems though that uses for all of them could have been found somewhere in SoWal.

The demolition of those kiosks in Seaside was very disturbing. I personally could have used all the kiosks for a project I am working on, they would have been perfect. I spoke to Seaside Planing Dept. who said that Seaside had plans to build boardwalks between them and they would use them for a day camp for kids, their efforts were allegedly thwarted by Seaside "residents" Canale, Rice and Nelson.

I also spoke with Robert Davis and asked him to stop the demolition and that I would promptly remove all of the remaining kiosks. He said that it would not be possible to get a permit for removal since they already had the permit for demo. and were underway in the demo process. He agreed that there was a better use for them but at this point Seaside was under such scrutiny by its "residents" that this was one battle they would not be fighting. The final decision coming from Todd Nelson if I understood correctly.

The scenario is unfortunate and frustrating, the outcome possibly the most irresponsible and contradictory behavior that I have witnessed. I considered a sit-in but reconsidered only because the kiosks are private property. Had they been property of the state or county I would not have hesitated. Last I checked we live in a free, albeit often absurd country, and Robert Davis has the right to destroy his own property no matter how wasteful. :nono1:

The other side to the story is that seaside owners were presented with the story of the kids camp but when "residents" checked with county about applied permits for the build-out and use of the buildings they found that Seaside had applied to use the kiosks for events, to hold weddings and private parties.

hmmm...always two sides

they're history now

I really don't see what all of the fuss is about. Why the reaction over these kiosks, yet nothing about the tons and tons of wasted materials in construction dumpsters all over SoWal? There has to be enough good, yet wasted, materials in construction dumpsters to build a village of nice homes. Where is the daily outcry over that? :idontno: Are we just too blind to see the forests from all of the trees blocking the view?

not to speak of all the materials destroyed when storms damage the beach walk-overs......and the get rebuilt and rebuilt...

Indeed you are correct. there are larger fish. however I could have used those little shacks to fry a few of those big fish.

and why worry about that isolated wetland when there's a bigger one that has already been filled in? Is that the logic?

I really don't see what all of the fuss is about. Why the reaction over these kiosks, yet nothing about the tons and tons of wasted materials in construction dumpsters all over SoWal? There has to be enough good, yet wasted, materials in construction dumpsters to build a village of nice homes. Where is the daily outcry over that? :idontno: Are we just too blind to see the forests from all of the trees blocking the view?

Because many people feel a connection with Seaside. It's a place where folks honeymooned, or had a first vacation with their children. People have a kinship with the place.

Personally, I think what they are doing, not only with the kiosks, but with the whole property, is borderline-criminal.

Because many people feel a connection with Seaside. It's a place where folks honeymooned, or had a first vacation with their children. People have a kinship with the place.

Personally, I think what they are doing, not only with the kiosks, but with the whole property, is borderline-criminal.

Well, for what it is worth, we had dinner at Rendevous tonight and it was expanded and better than ever. I was more upset to see Hurricanes Oyster Bar go than the see the little kiosks fall to be honest. But I think you nailed it, many people feel anything at Seaside is hallowed ground and will be sick to see some demolition.

Because many people feel a connection with Seaside. It's a place where folks honeymooned, or had a first vacation with their children. People have a kinship with the place.

Personally, I think what they are doing, not only with the kiosks, but with the whole property, is borderline-criminal.

I think you're right on the mark about that. Those kiosks were part of the charming, quirky Seaside that seems to have given way to an increasingly corporate big-box mentality that is so far opposed to the original vision of 20+ years ago. That's what makes it sad, not that re-useable materials were carelessly destroyed (although that's an issue too :( ).

You mean the kiosks that had been at the ampitheatre and were moved to the croquet lawn over a year ago were demolished? It was silly that they were moved and then sat there empty on that lawn for over a year. Maybe that temporary move was to soften the blow of that huge new building in Seaside being built?? It (the big yellow building) looks better than expected, by the way. It would not upset me to see those kiosks gone. They crowded the green space of the lawn and were odd sitting back there empty. I imagine that the wedding and event planners at Seaside would find no real use for them. They bring in tents, and the only restrooms are at the pool. The tennis center has to use the facilities at the little family pool!

and why worry about that isolated wetland when there's a bigger one that has already been filled in? Is that the logic?

That is not my perspective at all. My perspective is that none of it is good, yet I've never read a single word on this message board regarding the waste of materials in construction dumpsters around here. I don't even hear talk about it on the street, unless I am talking with Alys Beach's Environmental guy. Maybe these buildings are just a little prettier than a bunch of debris in the garbage, but the initial point rasied by you was, "Do we have an award on this web site for the most un-green act of the year? If not, I propose we start one. I nominate Seaside."

My point is that if you think that because of Seaside demo'ing about 8 kiosks wins them the "most un-green act of the year," you are walking around with your eyes closed. Wake Up!

Personally, I think the idiots in charge of the decision to rent a heavy piece of yellow equipment and pay someone to demo and remove the debris is a complete waste of money, especially when they could have sold them for $3K each and required the buyers to remove them at their own expense.

That is not my perspective at all. My perspective is that none of it is good, yet I've never read a single word on this message board regarding the waste of materials in construction dumpsters around here. I don't even hear talk about it on the street, unless I am talking with Alys Beach's Environmental guy. Maybe these buildings are just a little prettier than a bunch of debris in the garbage, but the initial point rasied by you was, "Do we have an award on this web site for the most un-green act of the year? If not, I propose we start one. I nominate Seaside."

My point is that if you think that because of Seaside demo'ing about 8 kiosks wins them the "most un-green act of the year," you are walking around with your eyes closed. Wake Up!

Personally, I think the idiots in charge of the decision to rent a heavy piece of yellow equipment and pay someone to demo and remove the debris is a complete waste of money, especially when they could have sold them for $3K each and required the buyers to remove them at their own expense.

You got it. A classic case of not seeing the forest for the trees. Those kiosks--no matter what their condition--could have been auctioned off and the money gone to a good cause (or even a good party; who cares). People are amazingly and wonderfully sentimental and those kiosks would have gone like hotcakes. Dumbos~!

Dumbos!:funn:

Well, for what it is worth, we had dinner at Rendevous tonight and it was expanded and better than ever. I was more upset to see Hurricanes Oyster Bar go than the see the little kiosks fall to be honest. But I think you nailed it, many people feel anything at Seaside is hallowed ground and will be sick to see some demolition.

when you say rendevous expanded lets be honest...they put some planters out front .... you are eating in the parking lot.

the old hurricane oyster bar sign is up in grayton by that shoe store. it looks like some work is being done inside one of those spaces. anyone know if they are opening it up over there??

I think you're right on the mark about that. Those kiosks were part of the charming, quirky Seaside that seems to have given way to an increasingly corporate big-box mentality that is so far opposed to the original vision of 20+ years ago. That's what makes it sad, not that re-useable materials were carelessly destroyed (although that's an issue too :( ).

Click on the different "views (Fusion & Sundog Porch)" listed under "Seaside Florida" in this link for some memories of the way it was not too long ago. (Right click for "Full Screen" and use mouse to zoom--pretty nicely done site.)

http://www.idyll-by-the-sea.com/one/photos.html#ModicaMarket

I think david is up to something over at the Mystic port! i also see he's poured a patio or something outside for maybe some seating? he (david) is always pretty closed mouthed about his doings! but It would be nice to see the old hurricane bar up and running!

I think david is up to something over at the Mystic port! i also see he's poured a patio or something outside for maybe some seating? he (david) is always pretty closed mouthed about his doings! but It would be nice to see the old hurricane bar up and running!

:clap_1: ...yes, this would be super good news!!! Keep us posted!