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Concerned with Poisons being sprayed all over SoWal? ...

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Concerned with Poisons being sprayed all over SoWal? ...

A meeting has been set for Tuesday, August 7 @ 9:30 a.m. at the South Walton County Mosquito Control Office on Hwy. 393 north of 98.

This is an very important meeting to discuss the impacts of the toxic pesticides being sprayed in our streets and on our beaches. Experts have been invited to inform us in depth. The news media have also been invited. We would appreciate your being there if possible and spreading the word to all who are concerned about this issue. Please follow this link to a website which has been set up for educational purposes. If you would like to help in any way, there is a place for your comments. We can be a part of making this beautiful area we call home a safer, less toxic place to raise our families.

http://fixsowal.com
http://fixsowal.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemi d=27

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30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#2
That info on the fixsowal site looks terribly familiar. You know who you are (nope, not smiley J), but no fear, I will not 'out' you even if you are sharing your fear inducing stuff with a organophosphile such as myself:wave:

I thought about you guys today when I saw this too...I'm just sayin';-)
http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/news/state/17509810.htm
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal ExpertAuthor
#3
Skunky, County Commissioners Scott Brannon and Cindy Meadows called for the meeting and discussion with Mosquito Control, due to the enormous amounts of interest in the mass spraying of poisons in SoWal.

Hey, did you know that the Chairman of the Mosquito Control is paid a salary of $125,000 per year by the County? That is big incentive to keep spraying. ;-)
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4
I think we've discussed this before, and I think that you don't have all the data associated with this topic, or you don't remember, or you don't want to acknowledge the data. [ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=12839"]http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=12839[/ame]
The missing info is what happens without the spraying, and what is was like before the spraying began. If there is an alternative insecticide available, let's here it, and make motions toward its trial use.
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#5
Skunky, County Commissioners Scott Brannon and Cindy Meadows called for the meeting and discussion with Mosquito Control, due to the enormous amounts of interest in the mass spraying of poisons in SoWal.

Hey, did you know that the Chairman of the Mosquito Control is paid a salary of $125,000 per year by the County? That is big incentive to keep spraying. ;-)

That yellow fly that bit my middle toe causing it to swell to the size of an oscar meyer weiner is incentive enough to keep spraying!:lol:
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal ExpertAuthor
#6
That yellow fly that bit my middle toe causing it to swell to the size of an oscar meyer weiner is incentive enough to keep spraying!:lol:

You should spray yourself with repellent if you want protection, not the entire area, killing many varieties of insects. Not everyone wants to be coated in poison. ;-) I don't have any problems with you using DEET on yourself. Be my guest. The issue with the mass spraying of poisons is that the poisons kill more than mosquitos. You will note that by spraying, not all mosquitos, deer flies, and dog flies are killed, so spraying obviously didn't prevent you from being bitten by the deer fly, however, spraying DEET on yourself every time you go outside, might prevent bites in the future, but just remember that you might die a few years earlier, or have some terrible sickness or disease from the heavy use of DEET, in your later years. It might be easier to have a an occasional bite, and allow your body to build resistance to the bites, so it will be passed on through your genes.

By the way, there are other ways to avoid getting bitten by the three aforementioned insects, which have nothing to do with coating yourself in DEET. Wear long sleeve and light colored clothing, avoid going out at dawn and dusk, use natural repellents such as white vinegar, etc.

I think too many people forget that we need to be aware of the potential damage we can do to ourselves and our environment. We may be bothered on occasion by insects, but that doesn't warrant spraying poisons to try and kill all insects. That just isn't right. God would never approve of such behavior. There is a cycle of life, which shows that we need all things in balance. Eliminate one thing from the cycle, and we may be eliminating many things, including ourselves.

This entire issue shows what a sheltered life so many of us want to live. Rather than co-exist, we want to eliminate anything from our lives which interrupts our happiness. My father used to kill every snake he saw, and he shot a few "stray" dogs which wandered into our yard. His answer was if you don't understand something, shoot it. Somewhere down the road of life, I, thankfully, began to think for myself, and chose to take another path to follow.
rapunzel avatar
Beach Fanatic
#7
You should spray yourself with repellent if you want protection, not the entire area, killing many varieties of insects. Not everyone wants to be coated in poison. ;-) I don't have any problems with you using DEET on yourself. Be my guest. The issue with the mass spraying of poisons is that the poisons kill more than mosquitos. You will note that by spraying, not all mosquitos, deer flies, and dog flies are killed, so spraying obviously didn't prevent you from being bitten by the deer fly, however, spraying DEET on yourself every time you go outside, might prevent bites in the future, but just remember that you might die a few years earlier, or have some terrible sickness or disease from the heavy use of DEET, in your later years. It might be easier to have a an occasional bite, and allow your body to build resistance to the bites, so it will be passed on through your genes.

By the way, there are other ways to avoid getting bitten by the three aforementioned insects, which have nothing to do with coating yourself in DEET. Wear long sleeve and light colored clothing, avoid going out at dawn and dusk, use natural repellents such as white vinegar, etc.

I think too many people forget that we need to be aware of the potential damage we can do to ourselves and our environment. We may be bothered on occasion by insects, but that doesn't warrant spraying poisons to try and kill all insects. That just isn't right. God would never approve of such behavior. There is a cycle of life, which shows that we need all things in balance. Eliminate one thing from the cycle, and we may be eliminating many things, including ourselves.

This entire issue shows what a sheltered life so many of us want to live. Rather than co-exist, we want to eliminate anything from our lives which interrupts our happiness. My father used to kill every snake he saw, and he shot a few "stray" dogs which wandered into our yard. His answer was if you don't understand something, shoot it. Somewhere down the road of life, I, thankfully, began to think for myself, and chose to take another path to follow.




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Cheering472 avatar
SoWal Insider
#8
Punzy your tar is SCARY. :lol:
Beach Fanatic
#9
Paaaaaaaaaaaaleeseeeeeeeeeeeeeee
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#10
Punzy your tar is SCARY. :lol:

I know, what on earth has gotten into her?:biggrin:
Beach Lover
#11
It's amazing! Despite the fact that we've all been routinely sprayed by countless similar "poisons" since birth, life expectancy in the U.S. is now at an all-time high (77.9 yrs)! And, our number of annual deaths in the U.S. recently experienced the biggest decline since 1938. Perhaps we should start taking baths in that stuff! Whatever we're doing seems to be working... :rolling:
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal ExpertAuthor
#12
It's amazing! Despite the fact that we've all been routinely sprayed by countless similar "poisons" since birth, life expectancy in the U.S. is now at an all-time high (77.9 yrs)! And, our number of annual deaths in the U.S. recently experienced the biggest decline since 1938. Perhaps we should start taking baths in that stuff! Whatever we're doing seems to be working... :rolling:
Sounds like life expectancy could be linked to the stock market, which is also at an all time high.

I have an idea, why don't you go run behind the poison truck.
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#13
Sounds like life expectancy could be linked to the stock market, which is also at an all time high.

I have an idea, why don't you go run behind the poison truck.


Worked for me! :sick:
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#14
Alright, insert dead horse, it is all been said before. :sleeping:
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#15
Actually, it has not all been said before;Smiley J, who are the experts you guys are bringing and what are their credentials?:idontno:
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal ExpertAuthor
#16
Actually, it has not all been said before;Smiley J, who are the experts you guys are bringing and what are their credentials?:idontno:
I'm not bringing any experts. To my knowledge, the County Commissioners called for the meeting. Please note that it is being held at the Mosquito Control Headquarters, so I am sure that there will be different degrees of "experts" at the meeting. I bet the employees will be the only ones not wearing masks.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal ExpertAuthor
#17
Alright, insert dead horse, it is all been said before. :sleeping:
I posted the information so that those who are interested in learning more can do so. You do not have to attend the meeting. ;-)
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#18
I'm not bringing any experts. To my knowledge, the County Commissioners called for the meeting. Please note that it is being held at the Mosquito Control Headquarters, so I am sure that there will be different degrees of "experts" at the meeting. I bet the employees will be the only ones not wearing masks.

You guys are planning a media stunt, eh? How are those turtles doing, anyway? If I remember correctly, that story was from 1985 or something like that:lol:
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal ExpertAuthor
#19
You guys are planning a media stunt, eh? How are those turtles doing, anyway? If I remember correctly, that story was from 1985 or something like that:lol:

To my knowledge, this is an educational meeting, not a press release party.
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#20
To my knowledge, this is an educational meeting, not a press release party.

I thought you all were going to wear masks based on what you were saying above (with media present). :lol: If I am not busy otherwise I might show up and see what this is all about.:wave:
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal ExpertAuthor
#21
I thought you all were going to wear masks based on what you were saying above (with media present). :lol: If I am not busy otherwise I might show up and see what this is all about.:wave:

Bring a towel with which to dry off. I hear that they will be giving poison showers to anyone who wants one. :rolling:
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#22
Bring a towel with which to dry off. I hear tha they will be giving poison showers to anyone who wants one. :rolling:

That would be selfish use of the community resources. No poison showers unless it is dawn or dusk, you know that;-)
Beach Lover
#23
Sounds like life expectancy could be linked to the stock market, which is also at an all time high.

I have an idea, why don't you go run behind the poison truck.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning!
Beach Lover
#24
For anyone who's bored, here's a lot of info on the subject from The University of Florida: http://vector.ifas.ufl.edu/chapter_03.htm. There are some interesting quotes, both "pro and con" the poison trucks:
  • "...targeting adult mosquitoes may require highly visible and extensive applications of adulticides within residential and urban areas. The adulticides registered for this use are applied at levels 100 to 10,000 times below rates that would be cause for concern about exposure risk for the general public or the environment..."
  • "The ground or aerial application of chemicals to kill adult mosquitoes is usually the least efficient mosquito-control technique and is considered the last resort."
  • "The tendency of poorly funded or misguided mosquito-control organizations to use only adulticiding and bypass the other, often more effective, options available conflicts directly with accepted practice."
A little more info for mosquito enthusiasts...
  • "...mosquitoes are one of the most deadly vectors known to man, literally killing millions of people over thousands of years and continuing to kill millions per year.... Mosquitoes are estimated to transmit disease to more than 70 million people annually in Africa, South America, Central America, Mexico and much of Asia with millions of resulting deaths... before mosquito transmitted diseases were brought under control in the U.S., they caused tens of thousands of deaths and hundreds of thousands of infections."
  • "...Malaria is a leading cause of premature mortality, particularly in children under the age of five, with around 5.3 million deaths annually.... Most species of mosquito can carry the filariasis worm, a parasite that causes a disfiguring condition (often referred to as elephantiasis) characterized by a great swelling of several parts of the body; worldwide, around 40 million people are living with a filariasis disability. The viral diseases yellow fever and dengue fever are transmitted mostly by mosquitoes. Other viral diseases like epidemic polyarthritis, Rift Valley fever, Ross River Fever, St. Louis encephalitis, West Nile virus (WNV), Japanese encephalitis, LaCross encephalitis and several other encephalitis type diseases are carried by mosquitoes."
I don't know about anyone else, but I'll pour adulticides on my Wheaties every morning before I mess around with malaria, elephantiasis and filariasis worms! ;-)
Kurt avatar
Admin
#25
It's amazing! Despite the fact that we've all been routinely sprayed by countless similar "poisons" since birth, life expectancy in the U.S. is now at an all-time high (77.9 yrs)! And, our number of annual deaths in the U.S. recently experienced the biggest decline since 1938. Perhaps we should start taking baths in that stuff! Whatever we're doing seems to be working... :rolling:

I don't know much about poison, but even if it is 100% safe for humans to be exposed to it I don't like the idea of regular, massive fumigation of my atmosphere, which contains a lot more life than just mosquitoes.

Do you mean the percentage of annual deaths in relation to the overall population has declined? Where did you get the stat? Wouldn't you think the years after we ceased participation in major wars would have the steepest declines?

To what do you attribute our high rate of infant mortality? Fruits and vegetables? :lol:

Science can prolong life, and it can shorten or end life. Diabetes, learning disabilities, obesity, cancer, autism are a few things being called epidemics. You could add ignorance and arrogance to the list because "whatever we're doing it seems to be working". :roll:
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal ExpertAuthor
#26
BambooBay, if you don't like mosquitos, you can spray DEET on yourself if you are not willing to take other preventive measures. You do have an A/C in your home, I imagine, so you can shut the windows. You have the choice.

There is another thread regarding the effects of the poisons being sprayed, and this one is primarily for notice that an educational meeting will be held. If you have comments regarding the poisons or deaths, please post in the other thread.

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