Smiling JOe
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
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Okay, it sounds like some people need to say some things about franchises and chains coming into SoWal. What are your thoughts? Personally, I welcome Publix, and maybe a FedEx/Kinkos, which we dont currently have, but I cannot think of any others which I would like to have in SoWal. One major problem that I see is that most small business owners which would be the competition for the chains, do not have enough cash to get started, much less compete.
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80Beach Runner
Beach Runnerbeats on hoodNear the ATL and in SoWal as often as possible15,269 postsJoined View profileMessagebeats on hood
Seaside has a chain...RollyPolly Sandwiches, how'd they get in there? :idontno:I DID NOT KNOW THAT WAS A CHAIN!
ShallowsNole
ShallowsNoleBeach FanaticPt Washington4,279 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I would really like folks to address chains and franchises in all of SoWal from Publix in Sandestin to the Bay County line. Mostly, people seem much more concerned with only 30-A. I guess if Walmart proposed a site on 98 north of Blue Mtn Beach, people may have different thoughts on chains on 98. When the chains and franchises begin building on Hwy 98 in SoWal, 30-A is only one step away.
Not if nobody sells them the land...
Again, I could stand a chain or two on 98/331 as the primary thoroughfares. I'm thinking food here, not big box stores, but I guess you can't have one and exclude the other.
However, in comparison, A1A and U.S. 1 on Florida's east coast spring to mind. If you are in a hotel on A1A and want to find "chain" food (picture a hungry government employee on a $12.00 dinner per diem), most of the time you will have to get off the beach and hit U.S. 1. Planned? I don't know. Driven by the market, to locate the franchise restaurants closer to the population center? Probably.
While there is no comparison to our beautiful 30-A and U.S. 98, perhaps that is the type of activity citizens could encourage. After all, Crystal Beach drove Home Depot off the south side of 98 in their neighborhood...and Commons Boulevard turned out to be a much better fit.
ktschris
ktschrisBeach FanaticSt. Louis1,877 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I DID NOT KNOW THAT WAS A CHAIN!
Yep, we even have them all here...all the way in St. Louis
Not if nobody sells them the land...
Usally, the big stores have other companies purchase the land for them, so you never know to whom you may be selling. Some people worship Wal-mart, and would love to sell them some high priced land.
I can see the 30-A McDonalds already. This is how they can afford to keep staff. 24 hour drive thru.
Bob
BobSoWal InsiderO'Wal10,368 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
I bet you will be seeing Subway sandwich wrappers, and Starbucks coffee cups tossed on the beach soon. It just seems that quick, semi-mindless gotta have it now mentality and the selfish act of littering go together.
I bet you will be seeing Subway sandwich wrappers, and Starbucks coffee cups tossed on the beach soon. It just seems that quick, semi-mindless gotta have it now mentality and the selfish act of littering go together.
Fortunately, the beach is usually to hot to see people drinking coffee while at the beach. I do think you the nail on the head, though. These convenient processed crap places that serve something which we think of as food, help us to don the I-want-the-easy-way hat. It affects much more than our health, even if they are located on Hwy 98.
ShallowsNole
ShallowsNoleBeach FanaticPt Washington4,279 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Unfortunately, a lot of people do have to have it now. My life, and those of most of the other working parents I know, is not nearly as laid-back as I'd like it to be. :blink:
beachmouse
beachmouseBeach FanaticBluewater Bay, FL3,499 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Litterers drop everything wherever they want regardless of the junk's point of origin. We were at Topsail Hill over the weekend- didn't see anyone else on the beach, and only 4 cars in the 98 side parking lot, and we still saw multiple plastic cups with the Sandestin logo on them junking up on the beach .
Dabell
DabellBeach FanaticNew York471 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Fortunately, the beach is usually to hot to see people drinking coffee while at the beach. I do think you the nail on the head, though. These convenient processed crap places that serve something which we think of as food, help us to don the I-want-the-easy-way hat. It affects much more than our health, even if they are located on Hwy 98.
Ahhhh. You would think that UH? The Fact Is- Drinking hot drinks in Hot weather, IS How One Really Cools off. Yet, Most people don't know that.
Ahhhh. You would think that UH? The Fact Is- Drinking hot drinks in Hot weather, IS How One Really Cools off. Yet, Most people don't know that.
Yesterday, temps reached 100F degrees here. I don't think you will convince people to take their coffee on the beach at 2pm to cool off. Maybe with a morning stroll, but again, it is 80F and feels like 90F due to the high humidity.
Doesn't matter anyway, because the point Bob is making is that people will litter, the wind blows the litter, and sooner or later, it will fill our beaches, much like PCB.
I think a party boat must have gone down off the beaches of SoWal because I have been picking up 16oz plastic cups found along the water's edge for the last 10 days. They keep on coming. Many were in Gulf Trace, but I have no idea from whence they came.
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Dabell
DabellBeach FanaticNew York471 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Yesterday, temps reached 100F degrees here. I don't think you will convince people to take their coffee on the beach at 2pm to cool off. Maybe with a morning stroll, but again, it is 80F and feels like 90F due to the high humidity.
Doesn't matter anyway, because the point Bob is making is that people will litter, the wind blows the litter, and sooner or later, it will fill our beaches, much like PCB.
I think a party boat must have gone down off the beaches of SoWal because I have been picking up 16oz plastic cups found along the water's edge for the last 10 days. They keep on coming. Many were in Gulf Trace, but I have no idea from whence they came.
Is there a Fine for that? And Who watches out for it?
Is there a Fine for that? And Who watches out for it?Walton County just approved 5 or 6 cops to patrol for traffic. I don't think we have a garbage patrol officer, though the Sheriff's Dept would probably be the ones in charge. Have you ever seen an area, anywhere in this country, filled with litter even with fines and penalties for littering? Laws and fines don't prevent it anymore than speed limits prevent speeding.
Miss Kitty
Miss KittyMeow47,011 postsJoined View profileMessageMeow
Yesterday, temps reached 100F degrees here. I don't think you will convince people to take their coffee on the beach at 2pm to cool off. Maybe with a morning stroll, but again, it is 80F and feels like 90F due to the high humidity.
Doesn't matter anyway, because the point Bob is making is that people will litter, the wind blows the litter, and sooner or later, it will fill our beaches, much like PCB.
I think a party boat must have gone down off the beaches of SoWal because I have been picking up 16oz plastic cups found along the water's edge for the last 10 days. They keep on coming. Many were in Gulf Trace, but I have no idea from whence they came.
Tangent alert! Sorry to hear the heat is hanging out over y'all as well. It is just ghastly here in Dallas. We are supposed to hit 101F today. The ironic news is that that biatch, Rita, might just bring us some much needed rain and a cool off.
back on subject (sort of)....Let's borrow and change up the motto of TX..."DON'T MAUL WITH SOWAL!" Is this littering problem somewhat new...meaning last couple of years and just a symptom of growth?
Tangent alert! Sorry to hear the heat is hanging out over y'all as well. It is just ghastly here in Dallas. We are supposed to hit 101F today. The ironic news is that that biatch, Rita, might just bring us some much needed rain and a cool off.The amount of litter has a direct correlation to the number of people in the area. It is sure to increase with fast food establishments. I don't see too much litter today, but who knows what tomorrow brings?
back on subject (sort of)....Let's borrow and change up the motto of TX..."DON'T MAUL WITH SOWAL!" Is this littering problem somewhat new...meaning last couple of years and just a symptom of growth?
kathydwells
kathydwellsDarlene is my middle name, not my nicknameLacey's Spring, Alabama13,303 postsJoined View profileMessageDarlene is my middle name, not my nickname
The amount of litter has a direct correlation to the number of people in the area. It is sure to increase with fast food establishments. I don't see too much litter today, but who knows what tomorrow brings?
On the subject a little. I live in a very small community that is 4 miles from Huntsville, Alabama. We do not have any fast food places in our little town. However, 4 miles up the road there is every fast joint you can imagine. I walk a couple of miles everynight around my neighborhood. Each night I can tell you what the neighbors had for breakfast, lunch and dinner by the new bags on the side of the road. It drives me nuts!! It is like, hey don't you guys own garbage cans??? I can only imagine what the beaches would look like if the fast food establishments showed up on 30-A!!!!!
Dabell
DabellBeach FanaticNew York471 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
On the subject a little. I live in a very small community that is 4 miles from Huntsville, Alabama. We do not have any fast food places in our little town. However, 4 miles up the road there is every fast joint you can imagine. I walk a couple of miles everynight around my neighborhood. Each night I can tell you what the neighbors had for breakfast, lunch and dinner by the new bags on the side of the road. It drives me nuts!! It is like, hey don't you guys own garbage cans??? I can only imagine what the beaches would look like if the fast food establishments showed up on 30-A!!!!!
You are 100% RIGHT! I use to own a home by a Golden "M", there was always Trash on my lawn. We may not be able to fight for any fast food's opening up on 30-A, Yet, we can fight a Drive Thur!
You are 100% RIGHT! I use to own a home by a Golden "M", there was always Trash on my lawn. We may not be able to fight for any fast food's opening up on 30-A, Yet, we can fight a Drive Thur!
What:idontno:. Please tell us more.
I hope everyone understands that people will go toward the beaches after loading up on fast food purchased on Hwy 98. I encourage you to forget 30-A and think bigger picture.
Dabell
DabellBeach FanaticNew York471 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
If the area witch YOu LIVE in, has no DRIVE THUR's, The people of this such area can fight that they do not want any drive thurs because of High trafic, Crap on the sidewalks and/or lawns, That a drive thur belongs on the bigger Streets with the most trafic, riff raff coming in, may lead to more crime... You would need about 1/3 of the people living there to sign a that they are against it.
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