Does anyone know what the 'bench-like' things are that have popped up along 30-a?????? Surely they aren't benches.......so what?? Curious....?
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SoWal Expert
Re: What are these things beside the road?
You mean the board resting on two pipes, about 6 inches off the ground, around Seaside and WC?
You mean the board resting on two pipes, about 6 inches off the ground, around Seaside and WC?
needs to get out more
Re: What are these things beside the road?
just what we need, more signs on 30a.
[John R photos by John R inserted here from later in the thread.]
Thanks John!
just what we need, more signs on 30a.
[John R photos by John R inserted here from later in the thread.]
Thanks John!
SoWal Expert
Re: What are these things beside the road?
supposed to bring continuity to 30A, blending all the communities. ha, ha, ha.
supposed to bring continuity to 30A, blending all the communities. ha, ha, ha.
Beach Lover
Re: What are these things beside the road?
I never did finish that engineering degree... but, I would assume that the two 6' long sections of 4" PVC embedded in the ground will probably stay put. However, the connection point with the regular pine 2" x 6" and the Sign will most likely fail; causing the Sign to become just another piece of wind borne debris during the next direct Hurricane.
....but how do they hold up in hurricane force winds?
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I never did finish that engineering degree... but, I would assume that the two 6' long sections of 4" PVC embedded in the ground will probably stay put. However, the connection point with the regular pine 2" x 6" and the Sign will most likely fail; causing the Sign to become just another piece of wind borne debris during the next direct Hurricane.
needs to get out more
Re: What are these things beside the road?
upon closer inspection, it appears that the pipes are steel, not PVC. and the larger diameter collars are for leveling.
either way, there appear to more than we need. they're spaced everywhere
upon closer inspection, it appears that the pipes are steel, not PVC. and the larger diameter collars are for leveling.
either way, there appear to more than we need. they're spaced everywhere
SoWal Expert
Re: What are these things beside the road?
They mentioned placing signs at each crossing of the Timpoochie Trail, aka the multi-use trail. That could be a lot of signs and obstacles blocking views.
They mentioned placing signs at each crossing of the Timpoochie Trail, aka the multi-use trail. That could be a lot of signs and obstacles blocking views.
Beach Lover
Re: What are these things beside the road?
Have they said what color they will change the signs to next year?
Have they said what color they will change the signs to next year?
SoWal Expert
Re: What are these things beside the road?
They are the bases for the new signs - they have a frame of the same color blue metal pipes bolted to the bases.
Liked the "old" signs much better. These look like subway signs or something.
They are the bases for the new signs - they have a frame of the same color blue metal pipes bolted to the bases.
Liked the "old" signs much better. These look like subway signs or something.
Beach Comber
Re: What are these things beside the road?
This is a TDC project approved many months ago and is separate from the multi-use path wayfinding project that was recently approved. I think you will find these signs are attractive and they will identify communities along 30A. The set backs are to be in line with the Florida Green book per WC.
This is a TDC project approved many months ago and is separate from the multi-use path wayfinding project that was recently approved. I think you will find these signs are attractive and they will identify communities along 30A. The set backs are to be in line with the Florida Green book per WC.
SoWal Expert
Re: What are these things beside the road?
I just walked past the new sign for Watercolor. It is placed right smack in front of the Watercolor's own sign!
I just walked past the new sign for Watercolor. It is placed right smack in front of the Watercolor's own sign!
beats on hood
Re: What are these things beside the road?
Thanks for the pix.
Here are some photos... These were taken just west of Sanctuary at Red Fish on 30A. You can see the current Blue Mountain Beach sign in the last photo.What the heck? Those are so ugly!
Vicki
Thanks for the pix.
Beach Fanatic
Re: What are these things beside the road?
When I first heard of this project, I thought that consistent signange was a good idea. But dang! It's a huge sign for conveying so little information.
When I first heard of this project, I thought that consistent signange was a good idea. But dang! It's a huge sign for conveying so little information.
SoWal Expert
Re: What are these things beside the road?
There was consistent signage (at least IMO), and the wood signs had some charm.
Why exactly did we need the new ones? If people were getting lost or were confused about their location, my suggestion would be better directions, maps, or street signs, not these gaudy blue markers.
My parents have only visited Sowal a total of 2x, yet know exactly where anything is that I am talking about on the phone via the easy landmarks of Alys Beach, Gulf Place, Seaside, and the flashing red lights at 395 and Grayton. :roll:
There was consistent signage (at least IMO), and the wood signs had some charm.
Why exactly did we need the new ones?
If people were getting lost or were confused about their location, my suggestion would be better directions, maps, or street signs, not these gaudy blue markers.My parents have only visited Sowal a total of 2x, yet know exactly where anything is that I am talking about on the phone via the easy landmarks of Alys Beach, Gulf Place, Seaside, and the flashing red lights at 395 and Grayton. :roll:
SWGB
Re: What are these things beside the road?
They are popping up pretty quick headed east. The interesting thing is that it seems to be redefining parts of 30A already. For instance the Preserve at Grayton is no longer in Grayton and is currently located in Blue Mountain.
They are popping up pretty quick headed east. The interesting thing is that it seems to be redefining parts of 30A already. For instance the Preserve at Grayton is no longer in Grayton and is currently located in Blue Mountain.
Beach Fanatic
Re: What are these things beside the road?
In our opinion, these signs are ridiculous. What was wrong with the signs that were already in place. They went with the whole charm of our beaches ... they blended and were soothing to the eyes. These new signs are giant and blue .... waaaaahhhh ... we want the old signs back. How can we get the oldies back?
In our opinion, these signs are ridiculous. What was wrong with the signs that were already in place. They went with the whole charm of our beaches ... they blended and were soothing to the eyes. These new signs are giant and blue .... waaaaahhhh ... we want the old signs back. How can we get the oldies back?
SoWal Expert
Re: What are these things beside the road?
Good thing we paid a "local" company more because they knew the area :roll:.
They are popping up pretty quick headed east. The interesting thing is that it seems to be redefining parts of 30A already. For instance the Preserve at Grayton is no longer in Grayton and is currently located in Blue Mountain.
Good thing we paid a "local" company more because they knew the area :roll:.
Beach Lover
Re: What are these things beside the road?
The first shot of the completed sign is across from the west entrance to Draper Lake. The second is at Ed Walline Park, they had just finished pouring the concrete for the bases. (I think the underground portion will definitely hold up in a Hurricane) I'm sorry these aren't better, I was driving at the time.
The first shot of the completed sign is across from the west entrance to Draper Lake. The second is at Ed Walline Park, they had just finished pouring the concrete for the bases. (I think the underground portion will definitely hold up in a Hurricane) I'm sorry these aren't better, I was driving at the time.
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SoWal Expert
Re: What are these things beside the road?
Why exactly did we need the new ones?They are to provide continuity to the varied communities along 30A. (Strange, b/c I thought the people supposedly liked the "uniqueness" of the different developments.)
They are popping up pretty quick headed east. The interesting thing is that it seems to be redefining parts of 30A already. For instance the Preserve at Grayton is no longer in Grayton and is currently located in Blue Mountain.The name for the Preserve at Grayton has always been a weird one in my opinion because it is located in what I call Blue Mtn Beach.
Beach Fanatic
Re: What are these things beside the road?
Didn't the old / previous signs already have continuity? Weren't they all the same design?
Didn't the old / previous signs already have continuity? Weren't they all the same design?
SWGB
Re: What are these things beside the road?
Yes, but they had fallen into disrepair. In addition some locations had crudely made signs. Check out the sign for alligator lake in Grayton. It is spray painted on the back of an old road sign.
Didn't the old / previous signs already have continuity? Weren't they all the same design?
Yes, but they had fallen into disrepair. In addition some locations had crudely made signs. Check out the sign for alligator lake in Grayton. It is spray painted on the back of an old road sign.
Beach Fanatic
Re: What are these things beside the road?
We were unaware of this ... but still like the old school ones better ...
Yes, but they had fallen into disrepair. In addition some locations had crudely made signs. Check out the sign for alligator lake in Grayton. It is spray painted on the back of an old road sign.
We were unaware of this ... but still like the old school ones better ...
Beach Lover
Re: What are these things beside the road?
I thought the same thing. But based on the placement of the new signs I think that Preserve Place, The Preserve, Sanctuary At Redfish and Sanctuary by the Sea have been relegated to "No Man's Land." The new signs will be to the West of Preserve Place for Blue Mountain Beach and to the East of Sanctuary by the Sea for Grayton Beach. Also, the completed sign at Draper Lake is for Santa Rosa Beach, which did not have a sign previously. Maybe the lines are being re-drawn?
They are to provide continuity to the varied communities along 30A. (Strange, b/c I thought the people supposedly liked the "uniqueness" of the different developments.)
The name for the Preserve at Grayton has always been a weird one in my opinion because it is located in what I call Blue Mtn Beach.
I thought the same thing. But based on the placement of the new signs I think that Preserve Place, The Preserve, Sanctuary At Redfish and Sanctuary by the Sea have been relegated to "No Man's Land." The new signs will be to the West of Preserve Place for Blue Mountain Beach and to the East of Sanctuary by the Sea for Grayton Beach. Also, the completed sign at Draper Lake is for Santa Rosa Beach, which did not have a sign previously. Maybe the lines are being re-drawn?
Beach Fanatic
Re: What are these things beside the road?
This makes the "Beaches of South Walton" sign I saw last fall on the wall of the No Name Saloon in Park City, UT a major collector's item. Time to go out there and steal it back!
This makes the "Beaches of South Walton" sign I saw last fall on the wall of the No Name Saloon in Park City, UT a major collector's item. Time to go out there and steal it back!
Beach Comber
Re: What are these things beside the road?
You would have to ask the TDC about why they felt these signs were needed. All that I know is they taged onto the Timpoochee project and wanted the same signs as they had on the beaches. I like the old wooden ones too-they had character. I think they went with these because they are able to sustain very high big storm winds.
It would have been nice if they would have reached out to the community and ask for opinions.
On the Timpoochee project at least WC went to professionals and they did involve some of us local citizens. Our concern has always been safety and that's the only thing we wanted for the path. Hopefully the new crosswalks and other markings will make a difference.
You would have to ask the TDC about why they felt these signs were needed. All that I know is they taged onto the Timpoochee project and wanted the same signs as they had on the beaches. I like the old wooden ones too-they had character. I think they went with these because they are able to sustain very high big storm winds.
It would have been nice if they would have reached out to the community and ask for opinions.
On the Timpoochee project at least WC went to professionals and they did involve some of us local citizens. Our concern has always been safety and that's the only thing we wanted for the path. Hopefully the new crosswalks and other markings will make a difference.
SWGB
Re: What are these things beside the road?
Welcome to Limbo. :funn:
I thought the same thing. But based on the placement of the new signs I think that Preserve Place, The Preserve, Sanctuary At Redfish and Sanctuary by the Sea have been relegated to "No Man's Land." The new signs will be to the West of Preserve Place for Blue Mountain Beach and to the East of Sanctuary by the Sea for Grayton Beach. Also, the completed sign at Draper Lake is for Santa Rosa Beach, which did not have a sign previously. Maybe the lines are being re-drawn?
Welcome to Limbo. :funn:
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