Eleven Fla Counties forbid teaching of Evolution

Evolution conflicts with the Christian indoctrination of world creation as written in the Bible. It's the same folks who like to ban or burn school books not to their liking. It's why private Christian schools are one of the greatest businesses to be in currently. Christians view the scientific method with a jaundiced eye only when it tends to disprove their doctrine. It's childlike behavior born of a culture that questions everyone but themselves.

It's the same folks who like to ban or burn school books not to their liking.

Evolution conflicts with the Christian indoctrination of world creation as written in the Bible.

I learned about evolution in Catholic high school. Religion and science can co-exist.

It's the same folks who like to ban or burn school books not to their liking. It's why private Christian schools are one of the greatest businesses to be in currently. Christians view the scientific method with a jaundiced eye only when it tends to disprove their doctrine. It's childlike behavior born of a culture that questions everyone but themselves.

what in the world is happening in this state? and in this country?

No. It doesn't. Only the parts that remain unproven and sketchy. As a whole, it doesn't conflict at all.

explain how adam and eve and earth created in 7 days does not conflict with evolution?

my own thoughts are that the bible tells stories written by men to help us understand God in a certain way. I do not take most of these stories literally.


I love how people can sit and bash ALL Christians and talk about how intolerant and ignorant ALL Christians are in the name of ...what? ...tolerance? Do you realize that you sound just like the people you're bashing?

Bob, you know I love you, but you need to remove the plank from your eye before you can whack some poor ignorant Christian upside the head with it.

Let's keep dumbing down America.

I'll tell you what is happening. The Gov't is running the schools.

I'll tell you what is happening. The Gov't is running the schools.

it is well on the way. Dumb them down so that they depend on the gov't even more and then use the taxes that are taken from me so they can pay for them to make more babies to depend on the gov't and so on and so forth......it is a sad sad cycle....


IMO I think it is the unions that are running the schools...

IBD - I don't know much about the teacher unions. but I would hate to see what teacher salaries would look like without them.[/quote

Yes, that is probably true but I have a big beef with them all around and that is not the topic at hand. I just personally think that unions have more cons than pros. another thread topic, another day....

very true from national level (no child left behind) to state dept of education to elected school board. where are the professional educators and why aren't they in charge?

I've often questioned having to elect leaders to do the professional work of education and law (sheriff). it brings a layer of politics into an area that needs less politics and more experitise in that field.

IBD - I don't know much about the teacher unions. but I would hate to see what teacher salaries would look like without them.

Dr Eric Smith, Commissioner of Education for State of FL, started off as a math and science teach in Orlando, so maybe that is good (possibly less politically motivated and more focused on schooling). His job sounds overwhelming.

I don't know jack about teacher unions, but I hear many people talk about how they (not the teachers, but the union) are screwing up our educational system.

I went to a Christian school K - 8th grade and knew nothing of evolution (except that it was bad) until high school. I even had a separate class in 8th grade to learn Creationism (wasn't called ID then).

I went to a Christian school K - 8th grade and knew nothing of evolution (except that it was bad) until high school. I even had a separate class in 8th grade to learn Creationism (wasn't called ID then).

What did they do during history & science class to handle the lack of evolution?

and you turned out okay..

I learned about evolution in Catholic high school. Religion and science can co-exist.

What a crock! People need to butt out of classroom content before all of these nut jobs turn our public schools into a bible study class.

I studied evolution in a classroom with a crucifix on the wall.

And they taught evolution at the Catholic seminary where my husband went to high school ....... .. maybe Catholics really aren't christians after all!.;-)

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Or maybe they are just smart enough to figure out how to let the two coexist so as to not shortchange one's basic education.

The curriculum was A Beka Book, which claims to be "unashamedly Christian and traditional in our approach to education." Here is a link to the curriculum's distinctives...http://www.abeka.com/Distinctives.html. But here they are below also:

History

History is for time, what travel is for space; it is an intellectual journey across oceans and continents of duration, and of ages both remote from our own and vitalized and enriched by stupendous events. ?Moses Coit Tyler

Students need a realistic view of history, government, geography, and economics based upon the foundational truths of the Scriptures.

Ever since H. G. Wells published his Outline of History in 1920, the theme of world history texts has been man's supposed progress from savagery toward socialism, from tribal religions toward one-world government. American history is usually presented as a series of conflicts-rich vs. poor, black vs. white, North vs. South, labor vs. management, male vs. female, etc.

Our A Beka Book texts reject the Marxist/Hegelian conflict theory of history in favor of a truthful portrayal of peoples, lands, religions, ideals, heroes, triumphs, and setbacks. The result has been positive, uplifting history texts that give students an historical perspective and instill within them an intelligent pride for their own country and a desire to help it back to its traditional values.

We present government as ordained by God for the maintenance of law and order, not as a cure-all for the problems of humanity. We present free-enterprise economics without apology and point out the dangers of Communism, socialism, and liberalism to the well-being of people across the globe. In short, A Beka Book offers you a Christian and conservative approach to the study of what man has done with the time God has given.


Mathematics

Mathematics is the language God used in His creation of the universe, and thus it is logical, orderly, beautiful, and very practical in science and in daily life.

No subject matter better reflects the glory of God than mathematics. To study mathematics is to study God's thoughts after Him, for He is the great Engineer and Architect of the universe.

Unlike the ?modern math? theorists, who believe that mathematics is a creation of man and thus arbitrary and relative, we believe that the laws of mathematics are a creation of God and thus absolute. All of the laws of mathematics are God's laws. Our knowledge of God's absolute mathematical laws may be incomplete or at times in error, but that merely shows human frailty, not relativity in mathematics. Man's task is to search out and make use of the laws of the universe, both scientific and mathematical.

A Beka Book provides attractive, legible, workable traditional mathematics texts that are not burdened with modern theories such as set theory. These books have been field-tested, revised, and used successfully for many years in Christian schools. They are classics with up-to-date appeal. Besides training students in the basic skills that they will need all their lives, the A Beka Book traditional mathematics books teach students to believe in the absolutes of the universe, to work diligently to get right answers, and to see the facts of mathematics as part of the truth and order that God has built into the real universe.

Science/Health

It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. ?Proverbs 25:2

Science is the study of God's order, provision, and reasonableness as revealed in His physical creation.

While secular science textbooks present modern science as the opposite of faith, the A Beka Book science texts teach that modern science is the product of Western man's return to the Scriptures after the Protestant Reformation, leading to his desire to understand and subdue the earth, which he saw as the orderly, law-abiding creation of the God of the Bible.

The A Beka Book Science and Health Program presents the universe as the direct creation of God and refutes the man-made idea of evolution. Further, the books present God as the Great Designer and Lawgiver, without Whom the evident design and laws of nature would be inexplicable. They give a solid foundation in all areas of science -- a foundation firmly anchored to Scriptural truth. Teachability is assured through accurate, interesting writing, carefully planned demonstrations that can be performed with a minimum of equipment, chapter terms and questions, full-color illustrations, consideration of the interests and comprehension skills of students at each grade level, and detailed Curriculum / Lesson Plans.

English

How forcible are right words! ?Job 6:25

Because God has given us the great commission of communicating His truth to mankind, we must give our students the finest tools available to carry out this goal in a reasonable, well-articulated manner.

God gave us our powers of thought and language and chose to reveal His will and His ways to us in a written form, the Bible; thus we need to pay particular attention to the teaching of grammar, spelling, vocabulary, composition, and literature as we seek to educate students from a Christian perspective.

Since Darwin, linguists have sought in vain for a credible explanation for the origin of language. Having accepted evolutionary philosophy, they can only think that language must be simply a response to a stimulus, an emotional outcry, an imitation of animals.

If such foolishness were true, then any talk of language being governed by rules or any claims that some expressions are better than others would be inappropriate, and relativism would rule. This explains many English programs today. But as Christians, we still believe that the Bible provides the only credible explanation for the universe, of man, and of language. Therefore, it is easy to see in language a structure which reflects the logic, reasonableness, and orderliness of the One who created man and his language.

On this basis, we believe that there are standards for man to adhere to in language as in all of life. This is why our A Beka Book grammar books emphasize structure, rules, analysis, and the kind of practice that aims at mastery. This is why we place an importance on correct spelling and the continual enlargement of each student's vocabulary. This is why we aspire to provide students with examples of the very best literature of the ages, and this is why we emphasize the continual improvement of writing abilities.

That sounds like some pretty good teaching and YES, you turned out better than OK!