Enforcement for remove it or lose it?

Can citizens (preferably early risers) be deputized members of the 'Tag it' team, and tag items left out with their specially colored and numbered ID tags. Let's give them from 6 to 7 am to casually tag unattended items. Then have the garbage trailer trucks take one swipe down their designated portion of beach from 7 to 8 am. The money saved in not having to pay members of a deputized 'Tag it' team could certainly help pay for the removers.

Can citizens (preferably early risers) be deputized members of the 'Tag it' team, and tag items left out with their specially colored and numbered ID tags. Let's give them from 6 to 7 am to casually tag unattended items. Then have the garbage trailer trucks take one swipe down their designated portion of beach from 7 to 8 am. The money saved in not having to pay members of a deputized 'Tag it' team could certainly help pay for the removers.

Order some tags and knock yourself out. Who would know. Didn't I read on here that someone was faking beach permits?

Scooterbug. Past commissions tried to get a turtle light ordinance. Efforts were stopped and blocked by substantial illegal bucks and lobbying, especially by a guy with a big concrete house. We may only get a turtle light ordinance because they've got to cut some sort of deal for all the illegal seawalls that were put up.

Can citizens (preferably early risers) be deputized members of the 'Tag it' team, and tag items left out with their specially colored and numbered ID tags. Let's give them from 6 to 7 am to casually tag unattended items. Then have the garbage trailer trucks take one swipe down their designated portion of beach from 7 to 8 am. The money saved in not having to pay members of a deputized 'Tag it' team could certainly help pay for the removers.

According to current laws, only CE or Sheriff's Officers have the legal authority to tag the items.

Hey Smiling Joe - they even copied your photo!

http://www.waltonsun.com/news/beach_1485___article.html/walton_program.html

Beach program hampered by legal boundary
Sean Boone

The South Walton Tourist Development Council is currently at a standstill with its Remove It Or Lose It program until a new ordinance can be adopted that would allow removing items from private beach property.
According to David Sell of TDC Beach Management, the Walton County Sheriff’s Office is no longer tagging items left on the beach overnight from private beach fronts until county code enforcement can adopt a new ordinance that will cover legal loopholes.
“They gave the opinion that they don’t have the right to remove items off of private beaches,” he said. “We decided to continue the program on public beaches where we don’t have to tag (just remove items).”
The Remove It Or Lose It program was started last year by the TDC to cut down on items left on the beach such as chairs, children’s toys and umbrellas that were causing environmental issues.
Working with the TDC, WCSO officers would patrol the beach in the morning and remove items left on public beaches and tag those left on private beaches to notify the owner before removing the item(s).
One group that is particularly concerned with items left on the beach is the South Walton Turtle Watch, who fear beach obstructions will deter female sea turtles from laying its eggs in the sand.
SWTW head Sharon Maxwell said she feels those concerned with the issue need to contact their county commissioners to get something firmly stated.
“It gets worse daily,” she said. “People are not respectful of the signs and once again Walton County is not taken seriously.
“It concerns us all and makes a very messy beach and one that is not turtle friendly.”
Sell said he did not know when the ordinance redraft would take place, but hopes something comes about soon.
“Hopefully they can settle in on what they are going to do with the season in full swing,” he said. “It would be nice to know which way we are going.”

Truly sad. Way too many "entitled" people dragging their lazy arses to Sowal without a care for the turtle or what the beach looks like just as long as they get to do whatever the he** they want to because they paid good money to be here. :angry:
Walked Ed Walline East last night and now people keep their tents out and stack up all their chairs under the canopy. People leave the umbrella's stuck in the sand, pop the canopy down so it doesn't blow away and stack all their beach chairs against the pole so they can keep "their spot on the beach" as if they somehow own it.
It is so difficult to walk the beach without getting indignant about all the people who act this way. I know that they play an important part in the local economy. I really apologize to anyone who has lived here for any length of time for what has happened to your slice of heaven.

Truly sad. Way too many "entitled" people dragging their lazy arses to Sowal without a care for the turtle or what the beach looks like just as long as they get to do whatever the he** they want to because they paid good money to be here. :angry:
Walked Ed Walline East last night and now people keep their tents out and stack up all their chairs under the canopy. People leave the umbrella's stuck in the sand, pop the canopy down so it doesn't blow away and stack all their beach chairs against the pole so they can keep "their spot on the beach" as if they somehow own it.
It is so difficult to walk the beach without getting indignant about all the people who act this way. I know that they play an important part in the local economy. I really apologize to anyone who has lived here for any length of time for what has happened to your slice of heaven.

I think so many people really don't consider their actions to be of importance to the environment in any way. It's like that idea of voting: that one vote doesn't count, so why do it... In this case, it's one tent, set of chairs, toys, etc. won't make a difference ESPECIALLY because no one else cares, so why worry about it?

The key being we have to show that there are others who care.

Yesterday, I even took less the the beach. I left the towels in the car (great suggestion, SJ!) but did tote my Mexican blanket & sunscreen down. I forgot to take the kids' bag of toys from home, but they had so much fun making sculptures out of dried seaweed & wood on the beach that they didn't notice. They picked up the trash on the beach & threw it in my basket. Then they played on the sandbar with me & then we played with a family from Germany & had a blast, sans tons of stuff.

Less is more & gives a child a chance to learn from their environment & use their imagination. It applies to beach-going also.

According to current laws, only CE or Sheriff's Officers have the legal authority to tag the items.

But, doesn't the Sherriff have the power to deputize?

But, doesn't the Sherriff have the power to deputize?

It sounds like the sheriff is the one that has problems with the existing ordinance.

Yes, but this isn't Gulf or Franklin County. ;-)

But, doesn't the Sherriff have the power to deputize?

I'll bet they'd move their crap if there was a rash of vandalism.

There were 2 large groups of people last night at Grayton. Their tent condos were so huge that we thought they would be left up. We were so pleasantly surprised that both groups dismantled their tents, packed up everything, and carted several cases of beer cans to the garbage! Thank you!!

Best part? One group was playing cornhole! YESSS!

jdarg, were those the people who had the one canvas tarp set up like a lean to, with a tent beside it? I saw them cornholing, I mean playing cornholes, earlier this week. I've seen them the past few years, and always admired their simplicity with the canvas tarp and wooden poles.

I, too, have been pleasantly surprised at the people visiting Grayton Beach in the last couple of weeks. I've been seeing many people break down their bulky tents and load up their wagons, filled with beach chairs and toys, and hauling it off the beach. The other day, I asked GRS if we should go over and thank the guys who were packing up their crap at the end of the day. -- I was just so surprised to see it. Education, education, educaton. People adhere to the examples being set, so it is good to see so many people setting the right example. I applaud you all! Kids really don't need all those toys to keep them happy. They need sand, beach creatures, sunscreen, sun-protection, and time to spend playing with their parents or siblings.

Thank you to everyone who is setting the good example!!!

Yes- same people. Regarding that cool shelter, Punz and I are on the hunt for some big bamboo poles - and we are thinking cool fabric for the tarp part. Very Moroccan looking.

For the bamboo, go see Bamboo Bill at Fruits and Flutes, located just north of hwy 90, on hwy 83 (Ponce de Leon). For the fabric, go check out the selection at Hobby Lobby, on 23rd St in Panama City. They have some cool, heavy-duty-looking fabrics.

Bad stretch near Tom Thumb

I have had family staying at Sago Palms in Seagrove. Some of the junk is obviously abandoned from weeks past (starting to rust). Surely there is some common sense to be applied as far as how long the old chairs remain, private property or not. If I pick them up and put them in a dumpster I guess I will be in trouble with the trash removal company too.

I have had family staying at Sago Palms in Seagrove. Some of the junk is obviously abandoned from weeks past (starting to rust). Surely there is some common sense to be applied as far as how long the old chairs remain, private property or not. If I pick them up and put them in a dumpster I guess I will be in trouble with the trash removal company too.

Not if you lean them against a TDC trash can.

For the bamboo, go see Bamboo Bill at Fruits and Flutes, located just north of hwy 90, on hwy 83 (Ponce de Leon). For the fabric, go check out the selection at Hobby Lobby, on 23rd St in Panama City. They have some cool, heavy-duty-looking fabrics.

Highway 81 goes through Ponce de Leon. 83 goes north of DeFuniak Springs.

Thanks. I meant hwy 81.

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I hadn't seen this posted anywhere (could have missed it), and just saw it online myself, but I thought some of you may be interested in TAB C

http://www.co.walton.fl.us/default.asp?id=241

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http://www.sowal.com/bb/showpost.php?p=420994&postcount=33

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I hadn't seen this posted anywhere (could have missed it), and just saw it online myself, but I thought some of you may be interested in TAB C

http://www.co.walton.fl.us/default.asp?id=241

Looks to be a looooong meeting. If I could attend, I would pack a picnic!

I'll bet they'd move their crap if there was a rash of vandalism.

If something disappears from a public beach after being left unattended overnight, is it stolen? or just missing?

It's frontier justice ala beach!

If something disappears from a public beach after being left unattended overnight, is it stolen? or just missing?

We refer to that as "high tide".

We refer to that as "high tide".

or, "the wind must have got it." Our weather is constantly changing out here.